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Its time to enjoy the matches, keep the whining out of this thread. GL HF!
Also, don't reply to the whining and ignore it: have faith in the mods, we read every post and act swiftly. You're making it worse. Enjoy!
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3421
this is stupid... Shak-Plat is just stupid



ly amazing to watch
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3422
--- Nuked ---
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3423
*Looks at the mod message at the top of this thread* Oh, I guess Cruncher just played better.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3424
I really think they need to give corruptors +armor damage instead of +massive... they're just such a 1-dimensional unit that can't handle both colo AND vrays
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 20:20:32
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3425
PvZ advice

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From Reddit
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Saragas
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany431 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3426
There was no LOL LET THE TOSS MAX LOL THEN U CANT WIN LOLOL.
Mondragon fucking OUTPLAYED him and the only freakin reason Cruncher wins this game is, that he freakin plays the better race.
Mondragon did so much economic damage, he had so many bases, and still the freakin deathball beats everything? Come on, this is a joke, everybody who says it isnt, is a blind person.
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3427
On April 18 2011 05:16 Vorenius wrote:
Mondragon forgot to watch Idra vs Cruncher.

Corruptors can't kill void rays. Ever.


A lot of people talking about imbalance but really this ^ is what happened. The exact same mistake Idra made and lost on the exact same map. They chose opposite ways to get to the same point and then lost in the same way.

YoyoDevo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States44 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3428
what was the point of the fleet beacon?
Klaent
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden374 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3429
I thought he was switching to mass mutas when he made some. I realy think that would have been a good call. But he just made a few and then back to corrupters =/
"On a scale from 1 to Idra, how mad are you right now?" -ROOTDestiny
Tyri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany453 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3430
On April 18 2011 05:18 travis wrote:
stop complaining people, jesus christ. not giving cruncher any credit at all... u don't realize how good his defensive play was. mondragon lost LOTS of units over and over. his play was amazing and great to watch but not all of it was that cost effective.

I have to quote this,

he is totally right

shiny drops and stuff everywhere, but i think it was not that cost effective
diLLa
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands247 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3431
As much as i love mondragons play, this would have ended differently if he had a few infestors in his mix.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3432
On April 18 2011 05:18 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:17 emucxg wrote:
SC2 always confuses me, mondragon leading whole game, then the cruncher guy suddenly won, wdf


Its a deathball for a reason. Terran had one in BW and so did starvation Toss (an army of Doctor Manhattans).

Mondie WASNT leading - he was attacking. And mostly, he wasn't killing Cruncher's economy, or lowering his void ray/collosus count, so Cruncher won.
haylmfao
Profile Joined January 2011
124 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3433
On April 18 2011 05:18 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:17 haylmfao wrote:
CRUNCHER SO GOOD
I LOVE PVZ


you best be trollin

REPORTED FOR BALANCE WHINE
ENJOY YOU'RE BAN

User was temp banned for this post.
imbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom320 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3434
On April 18 2011 05:18 Joedaddy wrote:
lolcruncher. This guy, is as predictable as the morning sun.

he sometimes 4/6 gates to be fair
cskalias.pbe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States293 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3435
mondragon did the same strategy as the game before with mass roaches and drops. cruncher had more immortals the second time around, helping with the roach harass, because he probably recognized mondragon was just repeating his style from the previous game.
entropius
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1046 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3436
On April 18 2011 05:18 jlake02 wrote:
I love when people cry "he played better" or "he owned him the whole game..."

None of that matters. The W is all that does. There are no points for form in SC2.


What people are saying is that the game is not designed in such a way such that the better player is likely to win. Saying "Mondragon outplayed him, but Cruncher won" isn't a criticism necessarily of Cruncher; it's a criticism of Blizzard's design team.
darksage78
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 20:22:17
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3437
C'mon 3-1 Mondragon! Do it!
@KakitDesign on Twitter | Graphic Artist for : z33k.com / Collegiate Starleague / FXOpen
qbs
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland771 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3438
On April 18 2011 05:18 mholden02 wrote:
Its so clear Mondragon is a far superior player to Cruncher, yet he still lost.


i fell the same way : (
DeMusliM !!!
fidelity
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden410 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3439
A couple of infestors really would've made a huge difference, as well as switching to corrupters a bit earlier. Still impressive play by mondragon!
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3440
Im wondering if a change to voidrays will be incomming sometime soon.

Impressive play either way! I want nydus worms tho :D
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