• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:23
CET 12:23
KST 20:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA12
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating thread
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Path of Exile [Game] Osu!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2190 users

[TSL] Ro16 Day 4 - Page 171

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 169 170 171 172 173 288 Next
Its time to enjoy the matches, keep the whining out of this thread. GL HF!
Also, don't reply to the whining and ignore it: have faith in the mods, we read every post and act swiftly. You're making it worse. Enjoy!
henreiman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States407 Posts
April 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#3401
On April 18 2011 05:18 Gentso wrote:
I do believe that's why Blizzard changed that version of Shakuras. : |


Actually that was because of the TvZ tank pushes mostly. Sucks for Mondragon but Cruncher was just so cost effective that entire time, even while losing his bases he kept the units alive. And Mondi refilled 4-5x but just couldn't make it that 6th.
Creem
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden254 Posts
April 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#3402
On April 18 2011 05:17 DaCruise wrote:
WoW,,what a game,,excellent defense by Cruncher and impressive harras by Mondragon.


Sorry, what? Mondragon played roughly 10 times better than cruncher with drop play and crazy multitasking. In the end though all that was needed was gathering a critical number of void rays and a-move his way to victory.

/SADFUCKINGFACE

User was temp banned for this post.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#3403
There are obvious dangers to Mondragon's style guys, and he lost a lot of momentum before he cracked Cruncher's defense.

Stop complaining.

Mondi will still take this though.
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
April 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#3404
On April 18 2011 05:17 garbanzo wrote:
Mondragon really needed more mutas than corruptors. I think they work much better against the void rays.


Guardian shield really really really shuts down Mutas.
castled
Profile Joined March 2011
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 21:00:04
April 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#3405
On April 18 2011 05:18 ImHuko wrote:
I laugh everytime I see the third bulletpoint for Cruncher


^^ lol

should be
- Plays Protoss

User was warned for this post

edit: sry didn't mean for balance whine really just saying P strategies don't seem very varied recently against Z. Though crucher proved me wrong with the game on TDA!
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
April 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#3406
On April 18 2011 05:19 Topdoller wrote:
Mondi is changing SC2 in a good way, pity Corrupters are such an epic fail


As I said earlier, I would like to see the impact on this MU if Zerg had a Viking Warren.
Kazang
Profile Joined August 2010
578 Posts
April 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#3407
On April 18 2011 05:17 Drium wrote:
MONDI WHY WOULD YOU MAKE MUTAS?????


Because they are better and cheaper than corruptors against voidrays.
The Touch
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom667 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 20:20:47
April 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#3408
People aren't giving CrunCher enough credit. He defended all of Mondragon's harassment really well, managing to kill enough of Mondragon's units to make the army trading relatively ineffective and to prevent a massive amount of economic damage from being done.

Mondragon probably played a little better overall, but it wasn't the one-sided game that people are saying it was.
You Got The Touch
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
April 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#3409
Guys, both players played well, neither really outplayed the other. It was very very close. Mondragon used a strat that abused the weaknesses of Cruncher's build, and did a lot of damage, but he also took a big hit doing it, and didn't execute as well as he could have.

If a bunch of those drops had been hydra drops, rather than roach drops, he likely would have won. The roaches just couldn't do enough damage.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
cptKewk
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden87 Posts
April 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#3410
On April 18 2011 05:14 vommy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 18 2011 05:11 cptKewk wrote:
so I wasn't fast enough with the shooping but my friend noticed this
[image loading]




awesome pic :D


Why thank you =)
Science cannot move forward without heaps!
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#3411
On April 18 2011 05:19 shadowboxer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:17 MorroW wrote:
lollllllllllllllllll


basically says it all.

Alright. Probably most accurate quote on game 2.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 20:20:58
April 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#3412
On April 18 2011 05:17 Fist wrote:
Why the fuck is everyone acting like Cruncher is the only Protoss who is going for a deathball?


Well, cruncher pvz on sharukas is so obviously abusive so he get most of the hate about that. :p

That's why blizzard change the map, but everyone still use the old imbalance old sharukas.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
April 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#3413
Games like that take the steam out of my love for SC.

Grrrrrrr.... poor mondi
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3414
On April 18 2011 05:18 IdrA wrote:
harass constantly!
keep protoss off balance!
overmake corruptors!

lol

I see, so you are actually taking note then. GL HF Idra.
Terran
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34496 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3415
Every single time I go to the last page in this thread there is a new 2 pages for me to read. :<
Moderator
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3416
Mondragon played incredibly well. His insane agression and multitasking make for very entertaining games. And if zerg's dedicated air to air unit didn't suck against void rays, he could have won with his style too.
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3417
On April 18 2011 05:18 travis wrote:
stop complaining people, jesus christ. not giving cruncher any credit at all... u don't realize how good his defensive play was. mondragon lost LOTS of units over and over. his play was amazing and great to watch but not all of it was that cost effective.

Travis, busting out the voice of reason again, what are you thinking? This is the internet! xD
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
Faveokatro
Profile Joined August 2010
80 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3418
Mondragon did everything right except saturate another base :-/ His income just fell really behind because I think he mined out of his main and nat and almost out of his third, so he was basically trying to max out on a base and a half at the end.
Mahs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands171 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3419
I'm so impressed by Mondragon's play, such an amazing insight throughout the game, strategically such a strong player. Even though he lost, he's my hero.
I'll be in my bunk.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
April 17 2011 20:20 GMT
#3420
On one hand we have mondi giving his all dropping left and right.
On the other hand, let make some photon canon, let s a move... and then : )
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Prev 1 169 170 171 172 173 288 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
07:30
Playoffs
herO vs MaruLIVE!
Tasteless1698
Crank 1251
IndyStarCraft 243
Rex158
3DClanTV 107
CranKy Ducklings89
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 1698
Crank 1251
mouzHeroMarine 326
IndyStarCraft 243
Rex 166
SortOf 84
MindelVK 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 42589
Rain 1904
Larva 972
PianO 510
firebathero 488
Last 213
Killer 202
Rush 122
Mini 116
sorry 95
[ Show more ]
Sharp 55
Aegong 44
soO 36
HiyA 34
Backho 34
Movie 22
yabsab 20
Hm[arnc] 16
Purpose 10
zelot 6
Dota 2
XcaliburYe423
League of Legends
JimRising 380
Reynor51
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor181
Other Games
summit1g19391
B2W.Neo660
crisheroes267
Trikslyr34
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream17866
Other Games
gamesdonequick609
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 388
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 57
lovetv 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH205
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1231
• Stunt465
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Korean Royale
37m
SC Evo League
1h 7m
IPSL
5h 37m
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
OSC
5h 37m
BSL 21
8h 37m
TerrOr vs Aeternum
HBO vs Kyrie
RSL Revival
20h 7m
Wardi Open
1d 2h
IPSL
1d 8h
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
BSL 21
1d 8h
StRyKeR vs Artosis
OyAji vs KameZerg
OSC
1d 11h
[ Show More ]
OSC
1d 21h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
LAN Event
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-16
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.