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Its time to enjoy the matches, keep the whining out of this thread. GL HF!
Also, don't reply to the whining and ignore it: have faith in the mods, we read every post and act swiftly. You're making it worse. Enjoy!
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 17 2011 20:00 GMT
#2721
On April 18 2011 04:58 Belegurth wrote:
I asked the community in another thread too. The community is once right again.

Excluding 4 gate / cannon rush / rush. Only thing Cruncher does is wait in base until 200 200 deathball (voidray colossus etc) completes and move out. This is at least what I watch from his casted games.

and there is watching White-Ra, which is amazing and exciting.


Ok so... excluding MANY strategies like various "rushes", he then plays to Protoss' strengths which is getting a large army. What a surprise...

Despite that, you said that right after he did a midgame stargate/warpgate push. Wtf are you talking about?
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2722
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loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2723
Time for void ray collosus plateau :DD
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
J_D
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States102 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2724
Mondy is awesome! When he attacks it is complete chaos for his opponent. The first game at first I was disappointed to see the drop at the main die... but then I saw the natural being destroyed!
Creem
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden254 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2725
On April 18 2011 04:55 imareaver3 wrote:
Question is, how will this style fare on maps where you can't drop?


You can drop on any map......
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2726
On April 18 2011 04:57 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 04:55 Vetrocide wrote:
On April 18 2011 04:54 Cranberries wrote:
Deathball dying to Mondragon?

Problem, IdrA?

Look to Mondragon for the "messiah" tactics! :D


that was no deathball

go troll somewhere else


That's the whole point of ZvP.. avoid de deathball. tbf, Idra does not have the multitasking and good decision making necessary to play like Mondi.

Desicion making? Maybe. Multitask? Definitely not... Have you ever watched his stream?
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2727
It's very surprising how Mondragon took his fast third with no tech, hold a scary push with a total of 7 queens and spore crawlers while starting roach when Cruncher appeared on his creep, and suddenly his macro exploded into rainbows, he took his 4th (and I believe also his 5th) while doing multi-pronged attack.

Actually, I'm astonished.
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2728
On April 18 2011 05:00 The Touch wrote:
Why do they keep talking about commercials and then just continue showing the matchup graphic? I'm confused.

Google ads, etc.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2729
Did I honestly not see a single post with:"That was easy!" after that match ?
weird

Game 2 on old shakuras, it's pretty good for PvZ
Good to zerg overall too but I think now we'll really see what Mondi is about.
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Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2730
The map did favor Mondi, but I don't know, that still looked to me like he was in good form. Cruncher even let his resources get high there for a while, which isn't the map's fault. We'll see, but I'm excited to see these old school BW players like Mondi and Boxer really have a presence in this tournament. Boxer is in the NASL, which is amazing, I wish Mondi would play more often!
creepcolony
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany362 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2731
Thats the same map as in 2nd game vs Zeerax..

Ling runby anyone ?
PourLaGloire
Profile Joined February 2011
United States376 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2732
On April 18 2011 04:57 Mortal wrote:
as a toss player, i usually rally for the brotoss. not such in this case, looking forward to seeing mondi roll this kid. gogo german warstomp

Fully agreed.
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2733
Mondragon would easily be the best foreigner if he played Sc2 fulltime. His mechanics in BW were solid but not quite as good as Korean's or someone like Idra. But his game sense/strategies were as good as anyone playing the game Korean or not. That would translate amazingly to Sc2 where mechanics aren't as hard and game sense is even more important -_-. A shame he can't dedicate more time to it
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2734
On April 18 2011 05:00 Absentia wrote:
All the 'this is how you play Zerg' rubbish is really going to start grating on me.
Cruncher played that game absolutely horribly - that's hardly the basis by which to judge how Zerg can win games.


When your been pressured that hard you are bound to make mistakes, its all part of the plan dude.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2735
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4733 Posts
April 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#2736
On April 18 2011 04:56 ejac wrote:
There really wasn't any outplaying. It's simply a wtf matter why cruncher never built one observer.


Yeah in the beginning it was a mistake, but after Mondragon sniped the Robo early on during his attack, Cruncher couldn't react anymore.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2737
3:00


(P)coL.CrunCher plants an early pylon at his natural and goes Forge first into fast expand.

[image loading] (Z)MYM.Mondragon goes gas before pool into hatch.

Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2738
On April 18 2011 05:01 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Did I honestly not see a single post with:"That was easy!" after that match ?
weird

Game 2 on old shakuras, it's pretty good for PvZ
Good to zerg overall too but I think now we'll really see what Mondi is about.

Easy button needs more love, indeed
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2739
Seriously How the hell can there be twice as many TSL3 viewers as active TL members?
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Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2740
"You have no units that can attack air, so it scares Zerg from attacking"
BUT MONDRAGON HAS ROACHES! =D
Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
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