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Its time to enjoy the matches, keep the whining out of this thread. GL HF!
Also, don't reply to the whining and ignore it: have faith in the mods, we read every post and act swiftly. You're making it worse. Enjoy!
Gamgee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States135 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2741
On April 18 2011 05:00 frostalgia wrote:
maybe Cruncher should stick to hallucinated void rays?
haha

Wrong Protoss yo (unless I missed some more hallucination awesomeness)
oGm`REM
Profile Joined March 2011
United States870 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2742
On April 18 2011 05:00 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
killing that robo turned out to be a good decision. I think most zergs would have killed the collosus instead not sure

Wow GiTM? Gosu in The Making :D
Let's go CrunCher! 3-1!
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Maro01
Profile Joined February 2011
14 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2743
It seams that when husky cast we get the most viewers
loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2744
On April 18 2011 05:00 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 04:58 Belegurth wrote:
I asked the community in another thread too. The community is once right again.

Excluding 4 gate / cannon rush / rush. Only thing Cruncher does is wait in base until 200 200 deathball (voidray colossus etc) completes and move out. This is at least what I watch from his casted games.

and there is watching White-Ra, which is amazing and exciting.


Ok so... excluding MANY strategies like various "rushes", he then plays to Protoss' strengths which is getting a large army. What a surprise...

Despite that, you said that right after he did a midgame stargate/warpgate push. Wtf are you talking about?


He's saying that all cruncher can do is warpgate all in and turtle to 200 / 200, and he's kinda right.
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-17 20:02:51
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2745
On April 18 2011 05:01 keioh wrote:
It's very surprising how Mondragon took his fast third with no tech, hold a scary push with a total of 7 queens and spore crawlers while starting roach when Cruncher appeared on his creep, and suddenly his macro exploded into rainbows, he took his 4th (and I believe also his 5th) while doing multi-pronged attack.

Actually, I'm astonished.


Yeah it must have been demoralizing for cruncher that his push came to the natural when mondi had.. exactly 0 units other than queens and drones

edit: and still got ROLLLLLLED
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2746
On April 18 2011 05:00 Silkath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 04:58 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On April 18 2011 04:57 Rabiator wrote:
On April 18 2011 04:55 Vetrocide wrote:
On April 18 2011 04:54 Cranberries wrote:
Deathball dying to Mondragon?

Problem, IdrA?

Look to Mondragon for the "messiah" tactics! :D


that was no deathball

go troll somewhere else

The point is not letting the Protoss getting the deathball ...

Mondragon plays with "just a few units" ... five here and five there ... and harrasses all over. Thats something very few Zerg do but it is exciting to watch. Thanks Mondragon for entertaining us.


Not letting? Cruncher did a ridiculously bad attack into Mondragon's front with almost no chance of success.


A ridiculously bad attack that Mondy barely held. When there were two voidrays still up and Mondy only had one queen alive I thought he 'd lost it. The hydras spawned literally just in time.


How was it anything but a bad attack. Even if Cruncher breaks the front, mondy easily can reinforce it and push back out having a much, much, much faster natural and 3rd base compared to Cruncher. That push was doomed from the begining unless mondy sac'd his army away from his spinecrwlers and then cruncher just withdrew.

Cruncher played that entire game terribly. Not taking anything away from Mondy, but everybody talking about how zerg players have to pay attention to that is being ridiculous.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2747
Sheth showed how to beat this build on Shakuras two hours ago It was pretty nice ^^
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2748
On April 18 2011 05:01 keioh wrote:
It's very surprising how Mondragon took his fast third with no tech, hold a scary push with a total of 7 queens and spore crawlers while starting roach when Cruncher appeared on his creep, and suddenly his macro exploded into rainbows, he took his 4th (and I believe also his 5th) while doing multi-pronged attack.

Actually, I'm astonished.


It's actually very effective with transfusion. The thing is Mondi has very solid macro and micro to go along with it. He understands what to build and when.
Vetrocide
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway600 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2749

On April 18 2011 04:57 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
The protoss balls were never big enough.

Mondragons roach balls however were ginormous.



That sounds SO wrong lol
The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal
UberDrive
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States144 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2750
On April 18 2011 04:58 LightWireEX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 04:57 Axeinst wrote:
How do people know that those games are casted from replays?

Did tsl staff officially announce, that those are replays? If so, let me see evidence.



uhh..it's common knowledge? since the start of TSL? why are you being silly? husky even said "i'm still on the replay" at the end of goody vs naniwa.


Unless the tournament is played where everyone is physically in the same place, it's very, very difficult to schedule it so you can cast multiple series back-to-back. Even when it's live but delayed, like NASL, players in different time zones can be hard to sync (as seen by the walkovers this past week).

I don't think it's a big deal that the TSL is replays. The tension and good play is definitely still intact.
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2751
On April 18 2011 04:58 Gaius Baltar wrote:
Mondi so good, and on the other hand I really don't think Cruncher has the potential for that sort of creative strong play. But I still have a nasty feeling that this fairly tale won't have a happy ending.


This is exactly how I feel. Mondragon (and Idra too) both feel like superior players. I doubt that Cruncher will ever astound the masses with creative, counter-intuitive game play, but he is good enough to cause an upset with his uninspiring and predictable play.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
April 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#2752
Ok, I know I predicted 6-gate, but since its old shakuras, I'm going to predict colossus deathball through bottom rocks.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
April 17 2011 20:03 GMT
#2753
On April 18 2011 05:01 loveeholicce wrote:
Time for void ray collosus plateau :DD

Oh, you mean chokuras! Yeah, this'll be tough for mondi.
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Fangxxer
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden70 Posts
April 17 2011 20:03 GMT
#2754
mondragon is sooo good!
Soooooo many bannnnlingssssssss!!! - Artosis
Nuttyguy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom1526 Posts
April 17 2011 20:03 GMT
#2755
On April 18 2011 05:02 Maro01 wrote:
It seams that when husky cast we get the most viewers

thats probably why we got husky as a caster
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
April 17 2011 20:03 GMT
#2756
On April 18 2011 05:02 Vetrocide wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 04:57 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
The protoss balls were never big enough.

Mondragons roach balls however were ginormous.



That sounds SO wrong lol

it's supposed to
get rich or die mining
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Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
April 17 2011 20:03 GMT
#2757
On April 18 2011 05:02 Maro01 wrote:
It seams that when husky cast we get the most viewers
In his last cast he did make an announcement that he would be casting this weekend...wonder if that makes the difference.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
April 17 2011 20:03 GMT
#2758
Ahh the famous cruncher wallin on shakuras. =(
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 17 2011 20:03 GMT
#2759
On April 18 2011 05:01 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 04:57 s4life wrote:
On April 18 2011 04:55 Vetrocide wrote:
On April 18 2011 04:54 Cranberries wrote:
Deathball dying to Mondragon?

Problem, IdrA?

Look to Mondragon for the "messiah" tactics! :D


that was no deathball

go troll somewhere else


That's the whole point of ZvP.. avoid de deathball. tbf, Idra does not have the multitasking and good decision making necessary to play like Mondi.

Desicion making? Maybe. Multitask? Definitely not... Have you ever watched his stream?


He's definitely not the best at multitasking (among the players who are actually good, that is), he has never been known for that. General mechanics yes, but multitasking specifically, no. That goes back to his BW days as Terran as well.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
April 17 2011 20:03 GMT
#2760
On April 18 2011 05:02 oGm`REM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 05:00 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
killing that robo turned out to be a good decision. I think most zergs would have killed the collosus instead not sure

Wow GiTM? Gosu in The Making :D
Let's go CrunCher! 3-1!



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