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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46224 Posts
April 16 2011 22:16 GMT
#5341
Odd that the stargate is placed where it can be found by lings and roaches.

Won't be scouted by overlords I guess.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
April 16 2011 22:16 GMT
#5342
On April 17 2011 07:11 OnlineHero wrote:
I liked that Morrow tried something else on this map. I wish more Zergs would play ZvP more like Sheth plays it though, with mass ling, infestors and baneling bombs.


Qft. Roach/hydra looks so slumpy, slow and vulnerable against the deathball, I cringe every single time. To me it's just like beating a puppy with a nailed wooden beam. To death.

Infestors, on the other hand, bring the pain, they are a LOT sexier.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
April 16 2011 22:16 GMT
#5343
I just logged on, and I saw Boxer won

YEEEESSSSSS!!!!!1!!!!!

Bof I've lost some self-respect for morrow since he started playing Zerg, though he's damm good at it
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
Lush
Profile Joined May 2010
United States657 Posts
April 16 2011 22:16 GMT
#5344
That stargate placement... why. ultimate mindgames?
"you play that nerdy game?"
Harrow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States245 Posts
April 16 2011 22:16 GMT
#5345
On April 17 2011 07:15 Thobrik wrote:
why is morrow making such bad decisions in this series? I mean, It's understandable if you do mistakes in micro due to nervousness, but making straight up gold level decisions like expanding late against a forge fast expand? what the?! YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT MORROW!


He's just doing his most-practiced build when he's one game from being knocked out. I don't blame him for that, but he should be branching away from 14gas14pool, yeah.
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 22:17:08
April 16 2011 22:16 GMT
#5346
Nydus Play?
The eastern ovie is place for it...
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5347
On April 17 2011 07:14 jdseemoreglass wrote:
After watching spanishiwa's hatch-first play against protoss, seeing morrow go 14 gas almost hurts to watch. It seems so unnecessary and just plain bad.. Against a forge FE protoss you can simply take a VERY quick third.

This. Gaspool against forge first seems like a waste. This is exactly the discussion we had on spanishiwa's thread, he has map control, but for what purpose ? For what concrete gain ? None.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5348
On April 17 2011 07:14 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 07:12 MoonBear wrote:
Match 4: TSL`Shakuras Plateau (Crossmap Spawns Only)
[image loading] (P)mouz.HasuObs 2 vs 1 [image loading] (Z)mouz.MorroW

(P)mouz.HasuObs spawns as Red Protoss @7
(Z)mouz.MorroW spawns as Blue Zerg @1

Why do they keep changing colours between games, hm.

LR Round-up for Ro16 Day 3 so far:

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(Z)FnaticMSI.Sen vs
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(T)SlayerS_BoxeR
Match 1 Summary
Match 2 Summary
Match 3 Summary
Match 4 Summary
Match 5 Summary

[image loading] (P)mouz.HasuObs vs [image loading] (Z)mouz.MorroW
Match 1 Summary
Match 2 Summary
Match 3 Summary

2:50
Morrow with gas-pool-speed, Hasu goes Forge-FE. Places canon before gate.

5:33
Hasu takes a fast third gas. Cybercore done for him. He places a stargate at his natural again. Morrow with his standard Evo-chamber before he makes his Lair. Morrow sees the stargate with a ling scout.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Thor-axe the Impaler
Profile Joined April 2010
United States331 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5349
On April 17 2011 07:15 Dommk wrote:
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On April 17 2011 07:13 entropius wrote:
On April 17 2011 07:09 Thor-axe the Impaler wrote:
On April 17 2011 07:06 TheBB wrote:
Sigh.

Just shoot me.

User was temp banned for this post.

Mods come on, I get that you guys get frustrated and that people say some rude and stupid things, but I have been seeing a few rather inappropriate bans. I mean imagine you're frustration with trolls posts and whining, and embody that in Zerg players for having to watch that. You shouldn't be banning people for watching, and having feelings about the game one way or another. That is what makes Esports grow.


This.

Banning people for merely saying that zvp is boring to watch, or even that zvp is boring to watch because it is a long uphill struggle for the zerg to handle colossi, seems counterproductive. I understand banning people for *bad* posts that reference the metagame, but banning folks for just describing things seems a little over the top.

Hell, one of the official TL threads (one of the previews) had a reference to "how most high-level zergs struggle with zvp currently" -- it's not like this is a viewpoint held only by a bunch of illiterate whiners.

I mean, this match is far less exciting to watch than Boxer vs. Sen, and it's not (only) because of the players. This is a thread for the viewers, and if viewers are permitted to talk about how awesome ZvT and TvT are to watch, shouldn't they be permitted to groan about how boring zvp is?


Because the "it's boring to watch" after _every_single_game_ is clearly passive aggressive balance whine. The trend is the same in EVERY Live report thread, when ever there is something people don't like they resort to calling it boring to try avoid being banned

You shouldn't assume things, it just makes and ass out of u and me.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46224 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5350
Ah, backdoor rocks on this map?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5351
First void ray for Hasu about to finish.
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5352
this is a good map for drops. My liquidbet is on morrow. Come on morrow, you can do it :3
dr Helvetica <3
entropius
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1046 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5353
On April 17 2011 07:16 Tyri wrote:
Morrow so predictable,

being behind from the start because he always goes speedling expand


It's a way to avoid being *way* behind by getting a FE hatch pylon blocked. This is especially relevant on this map where there's only one position your opponent can spawn.
Absentia
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom973 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5354
On April 17 2011 07:14 henreiman wrote:
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On April 17 2011 07:13 Absentia wrote:
If Morrow shouldn't be going 14gas/14pool, what build should he be going in ZvP?


On such a huge macro map with such an easily defended natural? 15 hatch..?


And a protoss going forge first can't apply any pressure or, at the very least, delay the hatchery?
buscemi
Profile Joined April 2011
116 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5355
On April 17 2011 07:15 Thor-axe the Impaler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 07:14 buscemi wrote:
On April 17 2011 07:11 Thor-axe the Impaler wrote:
If you ban all your audience away who is gonna wanna stick around and let the community grow?


People who don't feel suicidal when their race loses a single game?

So you've never been disappointed because a player you really like lost? What about when Morrow BBusted Jinro 3 times in a row? That didn't bother you at all?


Why would it bother me? Baneling busts aren't unbeatable, and if you're losing to them three times in a row it's your own fault for playing greedy/risky.

Like Dubya said:

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me again.. can't get fooled again."
zedi
Profile Joined October 2010
165 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5356
On April 17 2011 07:14 entropius wrote:
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On April 17 2011 07:13 elmizzt wrote:
On April 17 2011 07:12 Dalguno wrote:
I've gotta say, I think the Day[9]/Wheat combination is the best out of all. They work so well together.

Yea, I really like their chemistry.


Yes, they do -- and every time someone mentions the casters being awesome I have to mention how awesome of a job Hot_Bid is doing at observing, too. We see literally everything important.


You'd have to be quite bad to miss anything if you get to practice the replay.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5357
On April 17 2011 07:14 henreiman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 07:13 Absentia wrote:
If Morrow shouldn't be going 14gas/14pool, what build should he be going in ZvP?


On such a huge macro map with such an easily defended natural? 15 hatch..?

cannon rush is too strong against that i think...
pool without gas would be an option
FTD
Designakrobat
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany558 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5358
hasu opened air almost every time. spanishiwas build would be awesome against that
"Immortal/Roach is pretty good against Stalkers" -IdrA
henreiman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States407 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5359
On April 17 2011 07:16 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 07:14 henreiman wrote:
On April 17 2011 07:13 Absentia wrote:
If Morrow shouldn't be going 14gas/14pool, what build should he be going in ZvP?


On such a huge macro map with such an easily defended natural? 15 hatch..?


If they go forge first, u're just asking to get cannon rush. I really like pool first tho, Idra did it a lot at Dallas vs Protoss


True but that's a worst of the worst situation (they have to go Forge, you have to not be patrolling with drones, they have to decide to pylon you in/cannon rush, etc)
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5360
On April 17 2011 07:16 Lush wrote:
That stargate placement... why. ultimate mindgames?


Once the forge goes down, he doesn't want crap running through into his main, and it likely has more HP than Gateways
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