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ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5361
On April 17 2011 07:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Ah, backdoor rocks on this map?


I think so.

You can tell because this is the version that has the smiley guy handing you a gem at the bottom.
Thor-axe the Impaler
Profile Joined April 2010
United States331 Posts
April 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#5362
On April 17 2011 07:15 Torumfroll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 07:09 Thor-axe the Impaler wrote:
On April 17 2011 07:06 TheBB wrote:
Sigh.

Just shoot me.

User was temp banned for this post.

Mods come on, I get that you guys get frustrated and that people say some rude and stupid things, but I have been seeing a few rather inappropriate bans. I mean imagine your frustration with trolls posts and whining, and embody that in Zerg players for having to watch that. You shouldn't be banning people for watching, and having feelings about the game one way or another. That is what makes Esports grow.

I think the mods should always have a zero tolerance policy for all balance whining in LR threads. Theres a difference between being passionate about the games and being a whiny bitch.

He wasn't whining.
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Ezekyle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia607 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5363
On April 17 2011 07:14 henreiman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 07:13 Absentia wrote:
If Morrow shouldn't be going 14gas/14pool, what build should he be going in ZvP?


On such a huge macro map with such an easily defended natural? 15 hatch..?


You can't hatch first against Protoss, especially not if the FFE. Unless the probe reaches your base after the hatch goes down (which doesn't happen if they scout on 9) your hatch will be pylon blocked and you'll be forced to just go for a pool first anyway. If he did make the fast forge he can then cannon up your natural and it's basically gg. You can't expand without lings against a Protoss.
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5364
On April 17 2011 07:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Ah, backdoor rocks on this map?

I think they are using the long distance only, and in that case i think the rocks are a good thing.
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5365
On April 17 2011 07:16 entropius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 07:15 keioh wrote:
a honest question : what about double fe when you see P forge fe ?


If you can cover both bases with spines it may work, but you risk getting 6-gated.

Thats true thats why MC has that build where he cancels the nexus at the last second and moves in with 6 gates.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5366
On April 17 2011 07:13 quentel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 07:11 Redox wrote:
Day9 liked Morros play until the push failed.
He pretends to know better but obviously he doesnt.



would you both like to shut up? 276 Day[9] Dailies would like to refute your point.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5367
And I don't like the hydra's response to protoss air. Just make roaches and drops, get spores to defend, and just go kill him before colossi.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5368
sigh, death balls inc
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5369
On April 17 2011 07:17 Absentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 07:14 henreiman wrote:
On April 17 2011 07:13 Absentia wrote:
If Morrow shouldn't be going 14gas/14pool, what build should he be going in ZvP?


On such a huge macro map with such an easily defended natural? 15 hatch..?


And a protoss going forge first can't apply any pressure or, at the very least, delay the hatchery?

Cannon rush is super leathal vs hatch first
kmkkmk
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany418 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5370
On April 17 2011 07:13 entropius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 07:09 Thor-axe the Impaler wrote:
On April 17 2011 07:06 TheBB wrote:
Sigh.

Just shoot me.

User was temp banned for this post.

Mods come on, I get that you guys get frustrated and that people say some rude and stupid things, but I have been seeing a few rather inappropriate bans. I mean imagine you're frustration with trolls posts and whining, and embody that in Zerg players for having to watch that. You shouldn't be banning people for watching, and having feelings about the game one way or another. That is what makes Esports grow.


This.

Banning people for merely saying that zvp is boring to watch, or even that zvp is boring to watch because it is a long uphill struggle for the zerg to handle colossi, seems counterproductive. I understand banning people for *bad* posts that reference the metagame, but banning folks for just describing things seems a little over the top.

Hell, one of the official TL threads (one of the previews) had a reference to "how most high-level zergs struggle with zvp currently" -- it's not like this is a viewpoint held only by a bunch of illiterate whiners.

I mean, this match is far less exciting to watch than Boxer vs. Sen, and it's not (only) because of the players. This is a thread for the viewers, and if viewers are permitted to talk about how awesome ZvT and TvT are to watch, shouldn't they be permitted to groan about how boring zvp is?


If you really want a site where people can complain about balance non stop, why dont you go ahead and create on? While you hang around TL though, you should obey the laws the TL stuff puts up, imho.
loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5371
On April 17 2011 07:14 henreiman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 07:13 Absentia wrote:
If Morrow shouldn't be going 14gas/14pool, what build should he be going in ZvP?


On such a huge macro map with such an easily defended natural? 15 hatch..?


No, its not an option. Probe scout arrives too early for it to work, ur just gonna get the hatch blocked 100% of the time
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5372
On April 17 2011 07:17 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 07:14 jdseemoreglass wrote:
After watching spanishiwa's hatch-first play against protoss, seeing morrow go 14 gas almost hurts to watch. It seems so unnecessary and just plain bad.. Against a forge FE protoss you can simply take a VERY quick third.

This. Gaspool against forge first seems like a waste. This is exactly the discussion we had on spanishiwa's thread, he has map control, but for what purpose ? For what concrete gain ? None.


Because he doesn't know it's Forge FE as he scouts after pool.
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5373
watching roach/hydra is a snorefest
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46390 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5374
I gotta say that Morrow has been consistently spreading creep like a champ every game.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5375
How early is that Zerg third?
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Kvothe
Profile Joined September 2010
201 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5376
On April 17 2011 07:15 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 07:09 Thor-axe the Impaler wrote:
On April 17 2011 07:06 TheBB wrote:
Sigh.

Just shoot me.

User was temp banned for this post.

Mods come on, I get that you guys get frustrated and that people say some rude and stupid things, but I have been seeing a few rather inappropriate bans. I mean imagine your frustration with trolls posts and whining, and embody that in Zerg players for having to watch that. You shouldn't be banning people for watching, and having feelings about the game one way or another. That is what makes Esports grow.

Its not just that post, history of balance whining = ban.


Lol mods can be very power trippy, just like any human. I got banned for 2 days for calling Gretorp a moron. The reason I was messaged with was, if I don't enjoy the stream don't watch it. What does that have anything at all to do with my opinion of Gretorp.
Ichi_
Profile Joined March 2011
France81 Posts
April 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#5377
4 games, same opening for the protoss every time D:
IPS.Mardow.
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany713 Posts
April 16 2011 22:19 GMT
#5378
Omg I just realized: If MorroW loses this series theres only one Zerg left in the tournament O_O Which iiiiiis MONDRAGON!
Lori_ftw
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany286 Posts
April 16 2011 22:19 GMT
#5379
Is this a rebroadcast?
möp
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
April 16 2011 22:19 GMT
#5380
On April 17 2011 07:18 Vimsey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 07:16 entropius wrote:
On April 17 2011 07:15 keioh wrote:
a honest question : what about double fe when you see P forge fe ?


If you can cover both bases with spines it may work, but you risk getting 6-gated.

Thats true thats why MC has that build where he cancels the nexus at the last second and moves in with 6 gates.


Dosen't even have to cancel the nexus. 2base 6gate can do huge damage.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
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