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$100 bo7 Spanishiwa vs. Minigun! "The V" from coL! - Page 9

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j0k3r
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States577 Posts
April 16 2011 01:39 GMT
#161
Gj Spanish you're showing everyone a new Zerg style. I feel like you've bridged the gap between how to get to aquandas sick late game comp and it's truly commendable. Congrats again.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
April 16 2011 01:43 GMT
#162
Fail spoiler on the first page lol =))
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 16 2011 01:45 GMT
#163
On April 16 2011 10:39 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 10:28 jmbthirteen wrote:
On April 16 2011 10:13 1Eris1 wrote:
Interesting play by Spanishiwa, and good play. But I feel like Mini could have won that series pretty handidly if he had prepared for this build. It just seemed to catch him off guard


I highly doubt Minigun was caught off guard by the build. He has known that he would be facing Spanishiwa, Spanishiwa's build is known about, his teammates have faces Spanishiwa multiple times too.



You would think, but looking at how he played some of those games I disagree. He literally let Spanishiwa just attack into/nydus his base nearly every game.


Give credit to Spanishiwa. Thats how is build works. Spanishiwa's build is strong, its time people start to realize this, even at the pro level. Morrow is using it now too. Does it have its flaws? Yes, but what build doesnt?
www.superbeerbrothers.com
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
April 16 2011 01:46 GMT
#164
On April 16 2011 10:13 1Eris1 wrote:
Interesting play by Spanishiwa, and good play. But I feel like Mini could have won that series pretty handidly if he had prepared for this build. It just seemed to catch him off guard

Right, Spanish's build was very vulnerable in early game, even blink stalkers and hallucination to get vision, then blink up in the base would destroy spanish's base and bunches of spine crawlers are useless.
AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
April 16 2011 01:46 GMT
#165
On April 16 2011 10:43 hitman133 wrote:
Fail spoiler on the first page lol =))

I accidentally the whole results!

Fixed, original post has Spoiler'd results now, VODs coming soon on YouTube. =)
Heroes, Hearthstone, and SC2 videos: http://www.youtube.com/AskJoshy
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 16 2011 01:49 GMT
#166
On April 16 2011 10:45 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 10:39 1Eris1 wrote:
On April 16 2011 10:28 jmbthirteen wrote:
On April 16 2011 10:13 1Eris1 wrote:
Interesting play by Spanishiwa, and good play. But I feel like Mini could have won that series pretty handidly if he had prepared for this build. It just seemed to catch him off guard


I highly doubt Minigun was caught off guard by the build. He has known that he would be facing Spanishiwa, Spanishiwa's build is known about, his teammates have faces Spanishiwa multiple times too.



You would think, but looking at how he played some of those games I disagree. He literally let Spanishiwa just attack into/nydus his base nearly every game.


Give credit to Spanishiwa. Thats how is build works. Spanishiwa's build is strong, its time people start to realize this, even at the pro level. Morrow is using it now too. Does it have its flaws? Yes, but what build doesnt?



Oh I am. I like it. But I feel Minigun was just really unprepared, at least from watching him play. It just suprises me, because I assumed he would have prepared
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
April 16 2011 01:54 GMT
#167
He did prepare, or he at the very least knew that's how spanishiwa plays. Thats why he tried fast DTs and a lot of early pressure. Pretty much during the daily he said it's susceptible to early pressure/cheese which minigun tried. Also the pylon block did really well to mess with spanishiwas order.
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 16 2011 01:55 GMT
#168
On April 16 2011 10:49 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 10:45 jmbthirteen wrote:
On April 16 2011 10:39 1Eris1 wrote:
On April 16 2011 10:28 jmbthirteen wrote:
On April 16 2011 10:13 1Eris1 wrote:
Interesting play by Spanishiwa, and good play. But I feel like Mini could have won that series pretty handidly if he had prepared for this build. It just seemed to catch him off guard


I highly doubt Minigun was caught off guard by the build. He has known that he would be facing Spanishiwa, Spanishiwa's build is known about, his teammates have faces Spanishiwa multiple times too.



You would think, but looking at how he played some of those games I disagree. He literally let Spanishiwa just attack into/nydus his base nearly every game.


Give credit to Spanishiwa. Thats how is build works. Spanishiwa's build is strong, its time people start to realize this, even at the pro level. Morrow is using it now too. Does it have its flaws? Yes, but what build doesnt?



Oh I am. I like it. But I feel Minigun was just really unprepared, at least from watching him play. It just suprises me, because I assumed he would have prepared


Honestly it seems that every protoss he beats with this build ends up looking the same way. Minigun is a great player and I expected him to win, I even said it on page 1. But Spanishiwa's build just looks stronger and stronger the more I see him play. I am incredibly impressed with it. He is approaching top 50 in GML now too.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Minigun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
619 Posts
April 16 2011 02:02 GMT
#169
On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote:
4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate

nice diversity there minigun lol


air = not possible, he gets so many queens, would be auto lose
expand and go into mid game = he is ahead because of his opening, he has 2x the amount of harvesters as you have
dts = not really viable if he prepares, which he should

so that leaves you with

4 gate

4 gate

6 gate

and 4 gate
“Quiet people have the loudest minds.” ― Stephen Hawking
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 02:09:15
April 16 2011 02:07 GMT
#170
On April 16 2011 11:02 Minigun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote:
4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate

nice diversity there minigun lol


air = not possible, he gets so many queens, would be auto lose
expand and go into mid game = he is ahead because of his opening, he has 2x the amount of harvesters as you have
dts = not really viable if he prepares, which he should

so that leaves you with

4 gate

4 gate

6 gate

and 4 gate


Hey minigun you still did really well, almost a good comeback and the times you did punish the build were best. I wonder if blink stalker wouldve just worked in general.

You think nexus first would have worked?
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Gegenschein
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada107 Posts
April 16 2011 02:10 GMT
#171
On April 16 2011 11:02 Minigun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote:
4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate

nice diversity there minigun lol


air = not possible, he gets so many queens, would be auto lose
expand and go into mid game = he is ahead because of his opening, he has 2x the amount of harvesters as you have
dts = not really viable if he prepares, which he should

so that leaves you with

4 gate

4 gate

6 gate

and 4 gate

Hey Minigun,
Spanishiwa stated on Day9 daily that he had trouble against a forge fast expand. What are you thoughts about that? Do you think it could have worked?
You and whose 200/200 fully upgraded army?
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
April 16 2011 02:11 GMT
#172
On April 16 2011 11:02 Minigun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote:
4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate

nice diversity there minigun lol


air = not possible, he gets so many queens, would be auto lose
expand and go into mid game = he is ahead because of his opening, he has 2x the amount of harvesters as you have
dts = not really viable if he prepares, which he should

so that leaves you with

4 gate

4 gate

6 gate

and 4 gate

You did the right thing, don't worry about it, gg. Just read my previous post about blink stalkers. He never use roaches in early game, you can abuse it.
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
April 16 2011 02:25 GMT
#173
Where can I find the VODs to these? Please upload them asap, barely missed this damn!
<3 DongRaeGu <3
Gegenschein
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada107 Posts
April 16 2011 02:27 GMT
#174
Grats to Spanishiwa by the way.
Very refreshing style of play.
You and whose 200/200 fully upgraded army?
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 16 2011 02:34 GMT
#175
It's not just refreshing in the entertainment sense, but it's how a Starcraft game is supposed to look like (even if it isn't as refined or with top tier execution). Something actually happens from the beginning to the end of it.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 16 2011 02:34 GMT
#176
Can't find the VODS, I guess I'm dumb but I googled and don't see anything :o
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
April 16 2011 02:45 GMT
#177
On April 16 2011 11:34 MrCon wrote:
Can't find the VODS, I guess I'm dumb but I googled and don't see anything :o


Wait a bit.

It will be in Joshy's youtube after he uploads it! (Generaly pretty fast, but it is what, 1 hour after the games now)
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 02:47:40
April 16 2011 02:47 GMT
#178
http://www.justin.tv/complexity/b/283778899

This is the latest saved VOD on complexity's justin.tv page, so I'm guessing that could be it, haven't started loading the video though so no idea.
sigol
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom134 Posts
April 16 2011 03:13 GMT
#179
On April 16 2011 11:02 Minigun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote:
4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate

nice diversity there minigun lol


air = not possible, he gets so many queens, would be auto lose
expand and go into mid game = he is ahead because of his opening, he has 2x the amount of harvesters as you have
dts = not really viable if he prepares, which he should

so that leaves you with

4 gate

4 gate

6 gate

and 4 gate

this post is fucking hilarious. good grief.
I'm the man who has the ball, I'm the man who can throw it faster than fuck.
jlake02
Profile Joined January 2011
United States395 Posts
April 16 2011 03:24 GMT
#180
On April 16 2011 11:34 MrCon wrote:
Can't find the VODS, I guess I'm dumb but I googled and don't see anything :o


All VODs for THE V are on our YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/complexityinsider

Enjoy!
compLexity Gaming - @coL_Lake
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