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Except for this week, they're rendering. =P
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No one is going to beat cruncher's record.
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Minigun will take this easy.
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On April 16 2011 11:02 Minigun wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote: 4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate
nice diversity there minigun lol air = not possible, he gets so many queens, would be auto lose expand and go into mid game = he is ahead because of his opening, he has 2x the amount of harvesters as you have dts = not really viable if he prepares, which he should so that leaves you with 4 gate 4 gate 6 gate and 4 gate
why not forge FE on maps that are good for it? with his build he can't put pressure don't think 4 gate/6 gate aren't the counter for the most part
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Spanishiwa will take it 4-2
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On April 16 2011 14:28 Nautis wrote: Spanishiwa will take it 4-2 The event was over 4 hrs ago -_____-
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On April 16 2011 11:45 Jotoco wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2011 11:34 MrCon wrote: Can't find the VODS, I guess I'm dumb but I googled and don't see anything :o Wait a bit. It will be in Joshy's youtube after he uploads it! (Generaly pretty fast, but it is what, 1 hour after the games now) yeah, when I posted I didn't realized that the showmatch just ended :o Anyway, the vod was recorded in the jtv stream, so watching it right now in between MSL games \o/ I love starcraft saturday morning.
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Watching it now on JTV, I want to see if spanishiwa does his signature build every game and gets away with it!
I've been hearing a lot of players tell me it's not a viable strategy, I say it is.
Love the evo chamber trick at the top of the toss ramp! The amount of times I mess that up :|
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I guess Protoss is not OP.
Go Zerg, even though I'm a Terran player right now.
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On April 16 2011 18:30 thehitman wrote: I guess Protoss is not OP.
Go Zerg, even though I'm a Terran player right now. Yeah one showmatch where the protoss didn't even play well proves 100% that what you just said is true.
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On April 16 2011 11:02 Minigun wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote: 4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate
nice diversity there minigun lol air = not possible, he gets so many queens, would be auto lose expand and go into mid game = he is ahead because of his opening, he has 2x the amount of harvesters as you have dts = not really viable if he prepares, which he should so that leaves you with 4 gate 4 gate 6 gate and 4 gate
problem with your logic is spanish holds 4 and 6gates on his stream all the time, with the same exact build.
spanish did not lose those 3 games because you made the right decisions. He lost them because he made mistakes he doesn't normally make. The series should've been a 4-0.
And sorry but I can't take any protoss seriously (or player for that matter) that claims the only way they can win is by all-inning every match.
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On April 16 2011 11:02 Minigun wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote: 4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate
nice diversity there minigun lol air = not possible, he gets so many queens, would be auto lose expand and go into mid game = he is ahead because of his opening, he has 2x the amount of harvesters as you have dts = not really viable if he prepares, which he should so that leaves you with 4 gate 4 gate 6 gate and 4 gate I didn't want to talk back because I respect your skill and assessment of the build, but what the hell :[
Not 1 of those 7 games did you attempt an economic opener. One of the major flaws of that build, as discussed by other pro Zerg's in his guide thread, is that it's incapable of applying any pressure until the midgame, leaving Protoss free to do whatever they want. You could have easily done a nexus first on a good number of those maps. I mean really, what's he gonna do, slow ling bust you?
Yea you will probably be behind if you 3 gate expand against this, but there is no need to. You could have been way greedier and still been extremely safe going into a macro game instead of thinking that aggression is your only option.
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Great series. Spanishiwa is really raking up the e-fame and honing his skills. The fact that he makes use of a lot of zerg mechanics that others overlook is great to see. I expect he will be a world class player very soon if he isn't already.
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root.spanishiwa incoming, the guy is building his reputation on owning root members ^^
hella entertaining matches
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On April 16 2011 19:27 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2011 11:02 Minigun wrote:On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote: 4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate
nice diversity there minigun lol air = not possible, he gets so many queens, would be auto lose expand and go into mid game = he is ahead because of his opening, he has 2x the amount of harvesters as you have dts = not really viable if he prepares, which he should so that leaves you with 4 gate 4 gate 6 gate and 4 gate I didn't want to talk back because I respect your skill and assessment of the build, but what the hell :[ Not 1 of those 7 games did you attempt an economic opener. One of the major flaws of that build, as discussed by other pro Zerg's in his guide thread, is that it's incapable of applying any pressure until the midgame, leaving Protoss free to do whatever they want. You could have easily done a nexus first on a good number of those maps. I mean really, what's he gonna do, slow ling bust you? Yea you will probably be behind if you 3 gate expand against this, but there is no need to. You could have been way greedier and still been extremely safe going into a macro game instead of thinking that aggression is your only option.
I think a problem with a blind expand is that in the first game spanishiwa showed that he is capable of pulling of some cheese(even if it was a response to pylon block this time). So you can't assume he will hatch first every time.
Edit: I'm not saying he shouldn't have quick expanded some of the games though.
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On April 16 2011 10:05 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2011 09:51 hugman wrote:On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote: 4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate
nice diversity there minigun lol I guess he was afraid of spanish's lategame hes afraid of minigun's late game this doesn't make any sense I don't know if you're saying minigun is afraid of his own lategame or not
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On April 16 2011 23:45 eot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2011 10:05 IdrA wrote:On April 16 2011 09:51 hugman wrote:On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote: 4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate
nice diversity there minigun lol I guess he was afraid of spanish's lategame hes afraid of minigun's late game this doesn't make any sense I don't know if you're saying minigun is afraid of his own lategame or not It makes perfect sense. He is saying that Minigun is afraid of his own lategame. And is probably right :o
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Ok, it was just the wording Using "he is afraid of mingun's..." makes it sound like 2 different people
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woot team vile is awesome! vilespanishiwa, vilehashe, vileiechoic, vilepsystarcraft, vilehawk (30ish at MLG!), viledeathrow, vilestryker, and then flashback who already used up his name change -___-
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