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$100 bo7 Spanishiwa vs. Minigun! "The V" from coL! - Page 10

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AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
April 16 2011 03:48 GMT
#181
On April 16 2011 12:24 jlake02 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 11:34 MrCon wrote:
Can't find the VODS, I guess I'm dumb but I googled and don't see anything :o


All VODs for THE V are on our YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/complexityinsider

Enjoy!

Except for this week, they're rendering. =P
Heroes, Hearthstone, and SC2 videos: http://www.youtube.com/AskJoshy
Mitchlew
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia428 Posts
April 16 2011 03:53 GMT
#182
No one is going to beat cruncher's record.
Dice.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States78 Posts
April 16 2011 04:08 GMT
#183
Minigun will take this easy.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 16 2011 04:38 GMT
#184
On April 16 2011 11:02 Minigun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote:
4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate

nice diversity there minigun lol


air = not possible, he gets so many queens, would be auto lose
expand and go into mid game = he is ahead because of his opening, he has 2x the amount of harvesters as you have
dts = not really viable if he prepares, which he should

so that leaves you with

4 gate

4 gate

6 gate

and 4 gate


why not forge FE on maps that are good for it? with his build he can't put pressure don't think 4 gate/6 gate aren't the counter for the most part
When I think of something else, something will go here
Nautis
Profile Joined March 2011
United States11 Posts
April 16 2011 05:28 GMT
#185
Spanishiwa will take it 4-2
http://tiny.cc/to84d
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
April 16 2011 05:51 GMT
#186
On April 16 2011 14:28 Nautis wrote:
Spanishiwa will take it 4-2

The event was over 4 hrs ago -_____-
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 16 2011 06:54 GMT
#187
On April 16 2011 11:45 Jotoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 11:34 MrCon wrote:
Can't find the VODS, I guess I'm dumb but I googled and don't see anything :o


Wait a bit.

It will be in Joshy's youtube after he uploads it! (Generaly pretty fast, but it is what, 1 hour after the games now)

yeah, when I posted I didn't realized that the showmatch just ended :o Anyway, the vod was recorded in the jtv stream, so watching it right now in between MSL games \o/
I love starcraft saturday morning.
x89
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom276 Posts
April 16 2011 07:57 GMT
#188
Watching it now on JTV, I want to see if spanishiwa does his signature build every game and gets away with it!

I've been hearing a lot of players tell me it's not a viable strategy, I say it is.

Love the evo chamber trick at the top of the toss ramp! The amount of times I mess that up :|
Hallowed are the Ori.
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
April 16 2011 09:30 GMT
#189
I guess Protoss is not OP.

Go Zerg, even though I'm a Terran player right now.
Velocity`
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom343 Posts
April 16 2011 10:04 GMT
#190
On April 16 2011 18:30 thehitman wrote:
I guess Protoss is not OP.

Go Zerg, even though I'm a Terran player right now.

Yeah one showmatch where the protoss didn't even play well proves 100% that what you just said is true.
mufin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States616 Posts
April 16 2011 10:09 GMT
#191
On April 16 2011 11:02 Minigun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote:
4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate

nice diversity there minigun lol


air = not possible, he gets so many queens, would be auto lose
expand and go into mid game = he is ahead because of his opening, he has 2x the amount of harvesters as you have
dts = not really viable if he prepares, which he should

so that leaves you with

4 gate

4 gate

6 gate

and 4 gate


problem with your logic is spanish holds 4 and 6gates on his stream all the time, with the same exact build.

spanish did not lose those 3 games because you made the right decisions. He lost them because he made mistakes he doesn't normally make. The series should've been a 4-0.

And sorry but I can't take any protoss seriously (or player for that matter) that claims the only way they can win is by all-inning every match.

I only make 5 actions per minute. But since I use all my time deliberating and planning, my 5 actions are so brutally devastating that children cry out and grown men weep.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
April 16 2011 10:27 GMT
#192
On April 16 2011 11:02 Minigun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote:
4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate

nice diversity there minigun lol


air = not possible, he gets so many queens, would be auto lose
expand and go into mid game = he is ahead because of his opening, he has 2x the amount of harvesters as you have
dts = not really viable if he prepares, which he should

so that leaves you with

4 gate

4 gate

6 gate

and 4 gate

I didn't want to talk back because I respect your skill and assessment of the build, but what the hell :[

Not 1 of those 7 games did you attempt an economic opener. One of the major flaws of that build, as discussed by other pro Zerg's in his guide thread, is that it's incapable of applying any pressure until the midgame, leaving Protoss free to do whatever they want. You could have easily done a nexus first on a good number of those maps. I mean really, what's he gonna do, slow ling bust you?

Yea you will probably be behind if you 3 gate expand against this, but there is no need to. You could have been way greedier and still been extremely safe going into a macro game instead of thinking that aggression is your only option.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Valroth
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand28 Posts
April 16 2011 10:29 GMT
#193
Great series. Spanishiwa is really raking up the e-fame and honing his skills. The fact that he makes use of a lot of zerg mechanics that others overlook is great to see. I expect he will be a world class player very soon if he isn't already.
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
April 16 2011 11:31 GMT
#194
root.spanishiwa incoming, the guy is building his reputation on owning root members ^^

hella entertaining matches
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
sdrawkcab_
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 12:04:35
April 16 2011 12:03 GMT
#195
On April 16 2011 19:27 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 11:02 Minigun wrote:
On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote:
4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate

nice diversity there minigun lol


air = not possible, he gets so many queens, would be auto lose
expand and go into mid game = he is ahead because of his opening, he has 2x the amount of harvesters as you have
dts = not really viable if he prepares, which he should

so that leaves you with

4 gate

4 gate

6 gate

and 4 gate

I didn't want to talk back because I respect your skill and assessment of the build, but what the hell :[

Not 1 of those 7 games did you attempt an economic opener. One of the major flaws of that build, as discussed by other pro Zerg's in his guide thread, is that it's incapable of applying any pressure until the midgame, leaving Protoss free to do whatever they want. You could have easily done a nexus first on a good number of those maps. I mean really, what's he gonna do, slow ling bust you?

Yea you will probably be behind if you 3 gate expand against this, but there is no need to. You could have been way greedier and still been extremely safe going into a macro game instead of thinking that aggression is your only option.


I think a problem with a blind expand is that in the first game spanishiwa showed that he is capable of pulling of some cheese(even if it was a response to pylon block this time). So you can't assume he will hatch first every time.

Edit: I'm not saying he shouldn't have quick expanded some of the games though.
eot
Profile Joined April 2011
146 Posts
April 16 2011 14:45 GMT
#196
On April 16 2011 10:05 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 09:51 hugman wrote:
On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote:
4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate

nice diversity there minigun lol

I guess he was afraid of spanish's lategame

hes afraid of minigun's late game

this doesn't make any sense
I don't know if you're saying minigun is afraid of his own lategame or not
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
April 16 2011 14:52 GMT
#197
On April 16 2011 23:45 eot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 10:05 IdrA wrote:
On April 16 2011 09:51 hugman wrote:
On April 16 2011 09:42 Tachion wrote:
4 gate, 6 gate, 4 gate, 4 gate

nice diversity there minigun lol

I guess he was afraid of spanish's lategame

hes afraid of minigun's late game

this doesn't make any sense
I don't know if you're saying minigun is afraid of his own lategame or not

It makes perfect sense. He is saying that Minigun is afraid of his own lategame. And is probably right :o
eot
Profile Joined April 2011
146 Posts
April 16 2011 15:02 GMT
#198
Ok, it was just the wording
Using "he is afraid of mingun's..." makes it sound like 2 different people
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
April 16 2011 15:08 GMT
#199
woot team vile is awesome! vilespanishiwa, vilehashe, vileiechoic, vilepsystarcraft, vilehawk (30ish at MLG!), viledeathrow, vilestryker, and then flashback who already used up his name change -___-
Side 1: Why no dominant players with 90% win ratio Side 2: Nerf Side 1
jlake02
Profile Joined January 2011
United States395 Posts
April 16 2011 15:34 GMT
#200
We have posted the replay pack if anyone is interested. (Free account needed to download.)

http://www.complexitygaming.com/downloads/view/1339/

compLexity Gaming - @coL_Lake
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