EPTLOL
$100 bo7 Spanishiwa vs. Minigun! "The V" from coL! - Page 11
| Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments |
|
loveeholicce
Korea (South)785 Posts
LOL | ||
|
Minigun
619 Posts
On April 16 2011 19:09 mufin wrote: problem with your logic is spanish holds 4 and 6gates on his stream all the time, with the same exact build. spanish did not lose those 3 games because you made the right decisions. He lost them because he made mistakes he doesn't normally make. The series should've been a 4-0. And sorry but I can't take any protoss seriously (or player for that matter) that claims the only way they can win is by all-inning every match. You can say that sentence whenever a zerg loses. Zerg has a fundamental the other two doesn't have. If ANY zerg loses, it's because he made a mistake, on drone/army, or a decision making error. I've never played against this build before, I don't know what the best counters are, so I was just trying random builds. I hate allining. I feel safest in macro games, but I wasn't sure on how to carry out the mid-late game, when he has such a economic lead mid-late game. One build I haven't really bothered to try is forge first on other maps from shakuras, and there's a rule. Don't use a build in a "turny" you haven't used in a ladder match. If you 3 gate expand, you go into the mid game, knowing you are significantly behind. And the 3 gate expand is my go to build, so it the build threw me off my game a bit. I'm sure there's a better counter to the plain 4 gate, or 6 gate. I just don't know what it is due to inexperience of playing against it. air doesn't work, dts doesn't work, blink only works in the beginning and only on some maps. That alone narrows it down to 4 gate, 3 gate expand, or nexus first. And unfortunately, my 4 gates are probably not optimal because, I don't ever do them, because I don't like all ining. I do think it's funny that the viewers of sc2 try and talk strategy. Why don't you jump in for a showmatch,  .He played, well, it's an interesting style, and I like it. Refreshing to see something new from zerg. Was well played by him. | ||
|
UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
| ||
|
DivineSC
United States128 Posts
| ||
|
BroboCop
United States373 Posts
Thats odd, cause minigun--and all root protoss members for that matter are scared of my early game. it consists of 8pool. I guess 4gating is their only chance. | ||
|
Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On April 17 2011 02:37 Minigun wrote: Exactly my thoughts! It's really interesting to see the players adapting to each other, the metagame between you two evolving live in such a series. Instead of the Zerg having to try things out to get to the Protoss, Spanishiwa opens so super-solid it forces your hand, trying out new approaches and builds you might not be super-comfortable with.You can say that sentence whenever a zerg loses. Zerg has a fundamental the other two doesn't have. If ANY zerg loses, it's because he made a mistake, on drone/army, or a decision making error. I've never played against this build before, I don't know what the best counters are, so I was just trying random builds. I hate allining. I feel safest in macro games, but I wasn't sure on how to carry out the mid-late game, when he has such a economic lead mid-late game. One build I haven't really bothered to try is forge first on other maps from shakuras, and there's a rule. Don't use a build in a "turny" you haven't used in a ladder match. If you 3 gate expand, you go into the mid game, knowing you are significantly behind. And the 3 gate expand is my go to build, so it the build threw me off my game a bit. I'm sure there's a better counter to the plain 4 gate, or 6 gate. I just don't know what it is due to inexperience of playing against it. air doesn't work, dts doesn't work, blink only works in the beginning and only on some maps. That alone narrows it down to 4 gate, 3 gate expand, or nexus first. And unfortunately, my 4 gates are probably not optimal because, I don't ever do them, because I don't like all ining. I do think it's funny that the viewers of sc2 try and talk strategy. Why don't you jump in for a showmatch, .He played, well, it's an interesting style, and I like it. Refreshing to see something new from zerg. Was well played by him. I'm amped to see what you and other top tier Protoss are going to come up with to shut that specific opener and its variants down. :D You two definitely put up a great series, and that's what these showmatches are all about! Thanks for that. | ||
|
AskJoshy
United States1625 Posts
| ||
|
Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
Either way, very neat to see such a radically different build order come out, and this next episode of The V will be a great litmus test for this BO and for Spanishiwa himself | ||
|
jonathan1
United States395 Posts
| ||
| ||
