EPTNASL Launch - Page 225
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Rinnegan5
Netherlands319 Posts
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leviathan400
United Kingdom393 Posts
Need player/score title bar on screen allways. Should have NASL logo on screen allways in normal location (on right). Should have player country flags when showing detailed player info, we are trying to tell people more about the players and where they come from / represent is interesting. I hope we will be seing other commentators. For the map analysis in the pregame show the 3D walkaround is good and all (and new  but I would love to see more of the traditional drawing on the map like I've see in OSL etc. The game/maps are still 2 dimensional so pointing out/marking chokes points and expansion paths would be great. Day9 has done this great before.Example: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/swanized/Maps/Montecristo_1.jpg) | ||
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tetracycloide
295 Posts
On April 13 2011 20:05 Bosko wrote: Paying $25 to watch esports seems like the opposite of supporting esports. It seems like supporting whoever is hosting the tournament and hurting the community. Make your money from ad revenue like other sports, and stop milking the fans. This is a joke right? With the exception of games that are actually aired on broadcast TV other sports are exclusively pay-to-watch and on top of paying to watch them you have adds. Cable isn't free and part of what you pay for when you buy cable is per-subscriber fees that the cable provider pays the network for letting you watch. Broadcast TV is a free option but the number of games that are aired is quite limited. | ||
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zivac
Croatia389 Posts
On April 13 2011 21:01 nakam wrote: Also, what's up with the framerate? It feels like 15-20 fps, which isn't good... i thought it is my computer's fault, but now its obviously minor problem that feels bit choppy, not as fluent as gsl vods for sure, not considering 2 hour buffer to start watching vods lets give them 1 week to sort those things out so we can see if any improvements are made... | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On April 13 2011 21:30 switchdev wrote: I was planning on buying the season pass this week, but reading about the troubles with the 1080p format is holding me back as I've got a pretty poor connection (on YouTube I can stream 720p, but 1080p needs to buffer for ages). Is it just the VODs that are 1080p-only or is it the same with the actual livestream? If I can watch the livestream without lag that'd make it worth it for me. So far all the VODs are 1080p, hopefully they will come out with lower qualities later. The livestreams uses Justin.tv backend, so you can choose between 240p, 360p, 480p, 720p, and Best (1080p). However, the streams runs at higher bitrate to improve picture quality than we are . For example, I usually watches 480p or 720p streams on Justin.tv, but the nasl.tv one I can only handle 360p without jitter because it is pulling 600 kbps average with 1.5 mbps in big battles or fast movements. The 1080p HD-pass stream is supposely 3mbps average with 5mbps peaks. | ||
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Mahs
Netherlands171 Posts
On April 13 2011 21:57 Primadog wrote: So far all the VODs are 1080p, hopefully they will come out with lower qualities later. The livestreams uses Justin.tv backend, so you can choose between 240p, 360p, 480p, 720p, and Best (1080p). However, the streams runs at higher bitrate to improve picture quality than we are . For example, I usually watches 480p or 720p streams on Justin.tv, but the nasl.tv one I can only handle 360p without jitter because it is pulling 600 kbps average with 1.5 mbps in big battles or fast movements. The 1080p HD-pass stream is supposely 3mbps average with 5mbps peaks. Awesome thanks! I'm quite sure I'll be able to run the stream without issues in that case, so I'll definately get the season pass. I love how they're doing a EU-timezone focussed rebroadcast, great thought put into that. | ||
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Sixes
Canada1123 Posts
On April 13 2011 21:11 FlattLine wrote: Sir, you have convinced me to subscribe. I, and the NASL, have you to thank for that. Haha, glad to hear it. For the quality I had absolutely no issues (live I watched LQ, this morning bought the pass and watched 1080p), the only lag present was when the players lagged (and it doesn't happen often). It would be nice if the VODs came in LQ for those with poor connections, in the meantime though if you have a decent internet connection it should work well. | ||
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Two82
Norway11 Posts
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
I kinda wish that they had different announcers, like the more accomplished ones like Day9, Wheat, Diggity etc, and that inControL did analysis in between games. Sort of like hockey does in between periods. There could be a short SoTG discussion panel with thoughts on the players and games. That being said I think that their current setup can improve. I'm not buying the forced excitement at non-exciting points of every game. | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
Gretorp and incontrol will improve. Remember, even the Tastosis had hiccups during the first two GSL, and they have been together for years. | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On April 13 2011 22:15 Primadog wrote: I'd rather not have our ace commentators tied up to one single tournament. Think about it, if any of them casts nasl, we will no longer have Day9, JP, Wheat, diggity going on tours at dreamhack, pax, IEM, MLG, etc et. Gretorp and incontrol will improve. Remember, even the Tastosis had hiccups during the first two GSL, and they have been together for years. I WOULD like to have Ace commentators tied to every tournament. You get some combination of a sports best announcers for each game in any pro sports league, why would this be any different? You don't get Joe Schmo announcing the PGA championship while Jim Nance and Mike Tirico do the Masters, British and U.S. Opens. | ||
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Mellon
Sweden917 Posts
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bruteMax
Canada339 Posts
On April 13 2011 20:05 Bosko wrote: Paying $25 to watch esports seems like the opposite of supporting esports. It seems like supporting whoever is hosting the tournament and hurting the community. Make your money from ad revenue like other sports, and stop milking the fans. Your $25 goes to supporting an organization that is all about promoting esports, specfically SC2. And you have a problem with that? lol. If you don't like it, just watch something else. Or watch the NASL anyways, cuz y'know they stream a respectable free version. | ||
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Rylaji
Sweden580 Posts
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bruteMax
Canada339 Posts
On April 13 2011 20:38 MorroW wrote: anyhow i like nasl so far, ive already told them what i think about the latency issues from EU to KOR and im sure they know it by now. you guys shouldnt complain or blame NASL for it. remember it was you guys who wanted players from all over the world and the koreans knew aswell that it would lag alot for them to play. it also lags alot for the european to play vs koreans too which many doesnt even think about. if i was living in korea i wouldnt participate in foreigner events. i would go to lans like MC or ace instead. in the future i think people are going to realize its not playable to have 3 different regions batteling online and i think we will only have koreans vs foreigners at lans instead. encourage people who organize lans to invite koreans rather than online leagues or tournaments imo Probably the only fair thing to do. Tournaments like NASL and TSL are compromised by lag when Koreans are involved unfortunately. Apparently east europeans too have terrible connections to the NA server (heard from an interview with Grubby). Question is, what is the lag like between Europe and Korea? Is it as bad as NA to Korea? Hopefully SC2 becomes more popular in Korea over the next few months so more tournaments take place for the Korean progamers. | ||
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dabounca
Ireland7 Posts
I could understand making the show a pay-per-view thing, but surely the VODs should be easily accessible to one and all. With a boxing match, you pay to watch the fight. All the analysis and replays shown the next day are on regular channels though. Not the best example I'm sure, but you get where I'm coming from... | ||
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
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Weson
Iceland1032 Posts
- The casting room where you sit looks a bit boring. You should add some colors to the background. They all grey looks so dull. - On my screen the games were a bit bright. I think it will look better if you turn down the brightness a bit. - The transitions between interviewes and when you cut back to the studio could be smoother. - I was missing a score screen. Would be nice to se the score all the time so if you have to for reason leave for a moment you can get back and know the score in the game you watch. I know these are tiny things but i think it would be ignorant for me(who wants the NASL to be the best it can be) not to speak my mind and give some constructive-criticism. Thank you for the show and keep up the good work. | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On April 13 2011 20:38 MorroW wrote: in the future i think people are going to realize its not playable to have 3 different regions batteling online and i think we will only have koreans vs foreigners at lans instead. encourage people who organize lans to invite koreans rather than online leagues or tournaments imo I think this is the best NASL related Idea I've heard. From my observations of online tournaments involving Koreans, it seems like latency is a HUGE factor, and has been game changing several times. If this was something the NASL was interested in doing, I think it would be a good work around to the current shortcomings of Bnet 2.0 P.S. Great play vs Rainbow | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On April 13 2011 22:40 dabounca wrote: Is there anywhere to watch the VODs for free? I could understand making the show a pay-per-view thing, but surely the VODs should be easily accessible to one and all. With a boxing match, you pay to watch the fight. All the analysis and replays shown the next day are on regular channels though. Not the best example I'm sure, but you get where I'm coming from... NASL has exclusive deals with popular casters like husky and gisado that will allow them to cast from some NASL replays. Expect it to be up in a few days or a week. | ||
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