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xorbot
Profile Joined February 2011
United States27 Posts
April 13 2011 11:45 GMT
#4461
Super fun times... but can we get some lower quality VODs please
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
April 13 2011 11:52 GMT
#4462
Great games, great quality vods, great commentary!

Don't understand the criticism against the excitement of commentators either. I guess maybe some of the volume balance could be tuned, but it's awesome they are putting so much energy in it. It's what makes the Korean commentators so cool
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
motiust
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia97 Posts
April 13 2011 11:54 GMT
#4463
Justin.tv's VoD bandwidth is terrabad! i had to buffer like 10mins for a 30mins game... wtf...
The VoDs is not up fully, the 1st three series are there but the rest is not... GSL have it all withIN 2 hours.
some games are all in one VODs and some are separate making very confusing.
casters were good and knowledgeable, GSL code S quality imo.

guys, well done for the 1st NASL keep it up man! however you got to talk the the guys at Justin.tv about their performance because is frustrating to wait.
Kenod
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 11:57:03
April 13 2011 11:56 GMT
#4464
Vod's are loading pretty normal for me , and i have shitty internet here :$

Pretty amazed by NASL, sure they gotta sort out some little problems but i think for their first broadcast it was pretty damn good ! keep up the awesome work !!!
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
April 13 2011 11:57 GMT
#4465
On April 13 2011 14:53 XXXSmOke wrote:
-What makes me mad is that this is the North AMerican Star league and yet we still have all the korean and EU guys in on it. They are great players and very exciting to watch, but it just taints the overall experience. I want pure NA server just like you have to be in Korea for the GSL, i want you to have to be in the NA to play in the NASL.

The NASL is not in North America, it's online. I mean, I'd hugely prefer a real league with players sitting next to each other, seeing their reactions and matches being broadcasted live, but apparently that's too expensive. I don't see any reason for limiting the players of an online league that wants to be as big as possible to a single nationality.
Flummie
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands417 Posts
April 13 2011 11:58 GMT
#4466
Nice tournament, well made, well casted. Too bad for the lag for koreans but you cannot satisfy everyone I guess They just give it a shot because of the huge prizepool anyway, lag or not, you cannot blame them really (imagine if they got lucky ) I am liking NASL so far.
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koprulureport
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria43 Posts
April 13 2011 11:59 GMT
#4467
do i miss something or is there no way to purchase a season ticket with paypal?
nakam
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden245 Posts
April 13 2011 12:01 GMT
#4468
I can see why people requests lower quality VODs, but Justintv must fix their servers to allow for 1080p. Maybe it works in the US but not in Europe. I have a 100/100 mbit connection and I can't watch the VODs without pausing to let it buffer.

Also, what's up with the framerate? It feels like 15-20 fps, which isn't good...
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WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 14:11:36
April 13 2011 12:03 GMT
#4469
On April 13 2011 20:38 MorroW wrote:
if you dont punish the other races for being greedy once in a while you end up losing to them in macro games because they cheated the early game with abuse and big risks. when you see july or me for that matter cheese, or even idra its not out of desperation, you need to do it once in a while or you end up like me vs tt1 in iccup ladder where he took 4 nexuses off of 1 gateway lol

if you see a guy constantly winning with aggression early game you shouldnt tell him to grow a pair and play real, in reality its the guy that cant defend that has to learn how to defend it or stop taking so big risks in early game

anyhow i like nasl so far, ive already told them what i think about the latency issues from EU to KOR and im sure they know it by now. you guys shouldnt complain or blame NASL for it. remember it was you guys who wanted players from all over the world and the koreans knew aswell that it would lag alot for them to play. it also lags alot for the european to play vs koreans too which many doesnt even think about.
if i was living in korea i wouldnt participate in foreigner events. i would go to lans like MC or ace instead.

in the future i think people are going to realize its not playable to have 3 different regions batteling online and i think we will only have koreans vs foreigners at lans instead. encourage people who organize lans to invite koreans rather than online leagues or tournaments imo


I think a lot of people do realise the fact that it is laggy for Koreans to play against anyone from the NA server but when we mention it in a situation where the player from the KR server clearly isn't playing right or up to scratch and seems slightly blundering with their decisions, it seems so negative, which is a shame. We cannot fully understand how bad it is unless pro-gamer give us an idea of the delay they get when trying to micro or something. I totally agree with you about the cross server play, and that it detrimental for a tournament if a few players are handicapped by lag. LAN events are definitely the way to go.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 13 2011 12:05 GMT
#4470
Watching the VOD's atm, and I really like what I see. Production value is good and Incontrol makes for an excellent caster/frontman for this kinda thing. Gretorp is not as good as I've seen him be, which I'll just put down to nerves, its the first day after all. VOD quality is supreme, although it does load kinda slowly.

Quality starcraft casting almost every night from now on, what more could you ask for? Keep it up!
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 12:10:30
April 13 2011 12:09 GMT
#4471
Playing other continents online without dedicated servers, or proper p2p support is just a no-no. Battle 2.0's current setup will continue to make playing cross-continent a gimmick, until they change the way it operates.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
FlattLine
Profile Joined January 2011
80 Posts
April 13 2011 12:11 GMT
#4472
On April 13 2011 20:37 Sixes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 19:38 Ocedic wrote:

It could be a thousand matches and I wouldn't find it worth it. Quite simply I'll never pay to watch StarCraft. The production values are lower than Dreamhack which was free, so I don't get where you're seeing this value. You can spin it however you want: it's 3 months of content, you're supporting esports, blah blah blah. Those are nothing more than marketing ploys to get sheep like you to feel good about parting with your money.

Oh, and I can easily afford it too. Just simply not going to buy a product that is not worth the money. Perhaps one day people might understand that concept.


I don't know about where you live but around here it's $12-13 for a movie in theatres and $6-7 per beer at the bar, quite frankly $25 for something to watch with breakfast every day is well worth it ...

If you genuinely never spend on anything that is just entertainment you must lead a pretty boring life, and as entertainment goes this is cheap.


Sir, you have convinced me to subscribe. I, and the NASL, have you to thank for that.
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
April 13 2011 12:19 GMT
#4473
On April 13 2011 20:38 MorroW wrote:
if you dont punish the other races for being greedy once in a while you end up losing to them in macro games because they cheated the early game with abuse and big risks. when you see july or me for that matter cheese, or even idra its not out of desperation, you need to do it once in a while or you end up like me vs tt1 in iccup ladder where he took 4 nexuses off of 1 gateway lol

if you see a guy constantly winning with aggression early game you shouldnt tell him to grow a pair and play real, in reality its the guy that cant defend that has to learn how to defend it or stop taking so big risks in early game

anyhow i like nasl so far, ive already told them what i think about the latency issues from EU to KOR and im sure they know it by now. you guys shouldnt complain or blame NASL for it. remember it was you guys who wanted players from all over the world and the koreans knew aswell that it would lag alot for them to play. it also lags alot for the european to play vs koreans too which many doesnt even think about.
if i was living in korea i wouldnt participate in foreigner events. i would go to lans like MC or ace instead.

in the future i think people are going to realize its not playable to have 3 different regions batteling online and i think we will only have koreans vs foreigners at lans instead. encourage people who organize lans to invite koreans rather than online leagues or tournaments imo


Morrow, I love you! For you speak the common sense amid all those hypocritical self-fooling so called e-sport optimists that think they can bend reality to their liking and have a world-class tournament with 0.2s ping. I encouraged from the very beginning to invite Koreans to lan or lan-equivalent events so I can enjoy a fluent qualitative gameplay instead of watching a fest of missclicks and lag-caused micro errors.
jah1337
Profile Joined March 2011
France1 Post
April 13 2011 12:20 GMT
#4474
just boring to see laggy games, seriously there is no interest to play or looking nasl..

User was banned for this post.
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Mahs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands171 Posts
April 13 2011 12:30 GMT
#4475
I was planning on buying the season pass this week, but reading about the troubles with the 1080p format is holding me back as I've got a pretty poor connection (on YouTube I can stream 720p, but 1080p needs to buffer for ages).

Is it just the VODs that are 1080p-only or is it the same with the actual livestream? If I can watch the livestream without lag that'd make it worth it for me.
I'll be in my bunk.
maybelunarox
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland74 Posts
April 13 2011 12:34 GMT
#4476
is there any other way to buy season ticket other that by credit card? I have visa paying card and am not able to make the transaction. help plz
elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
April 13 2011 12:40 GMT
#4477
NASL official forum is wellplayed.org -- no point in them having a forum, GOM forum is a perfect example as to why not, some of the stupid poeple in this community are to stupid and bad to be allowed to voice their opinion freely.

no one told you to pay to watch 240-480p, they only asked for money when you try to watch the HD quality 720p-1080p and for my cable if I wanted to get HD channels with 1080p I have to pay an extra 30$...however I am still holding on for NASL, actually the 480p is better quality than the hq on gomtv.

@people saying support this with ads--you really think that other sports can make enough money of a 30sec ad every 20-40mins (and with a lot of people blocking said ad with ad-block) -- yeah you can watch sports on tv with ads but you have to watch more than 1 ad every time they go on a break, and they mostly pay for their event by having major sponsors that you see everywhere all the time.
this mah s#$%$
Kielbasa
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia67 Posts
April 13 2011 12:40 GMT
#4478
Two big thumbs up for NASL here, sure buffering takes a little while, but its not hard to do it in portions. Leave it for 10 minutes them watch a whole series, rinse and repeat.

Loving Geoffs commentary, the Admiral Ackbar reference was my favourite.
Scodia
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom588 Posts
April 13 2011 12:41 GMT
#4479
On April 13 2011 21:30 switchdev wrote:
I was planning on buying the season pass this week, but reading about the troubles with the 1080p format is holding me back as I've got a pretty poor connection (on YouTube I can stream 720p, but 1080p needs to buffer for ages).

Is it just the VODs that are 1080p-only or is it the same with the actual livestream? If I can watch the livestream without lag that'd make it worth it for me.


i'd imagine that if your having issues watching 1080 on youtube you'll have the same issues watching 1080 on justin.tv
This isn't there fault, there have been plenty of people saying that quality and speed of the 1080 vods are fine. So blaim it on your poor connection, either watch them in 720 or buffer 1080 simple as that i think.
Better yet, speak to your ISP
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 12:43:28
April 13 2011 12:41 GMT
#4480
Well I have to say, I was quite impressed by the first day of the NASL. I loved the map analysis at the beginning, and the overall quality of gameplay was quite high. I will be buying a season pass. Two nitpicks:

-The overview of the matches and players...they were okay, but I felt like they should have preceded each match rather than having all 5 at the beginning. There was about a half hour of analysis before we even got to the games. Also I felt like there was a lot of material from the player interviews that got cut off or we weren't able to see.

-The big one: I felt this way already from the GCPL, but Gretorp is really not cut out for casting. =\ I'm not going to overcriticize because I like him, I just think there's a big disparity between his casting level and iNcontroL's.

Still, I really enjoyed it, good job guys!
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