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eloist
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1017 Posts
April 09 2011 20:09 GMT
#2961
This happened three times now and I don't think those were kind words in any case. The interview after his game against tarson at IEM certainly wasn't very well mannered. But pretty funny
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
April 09 2011 20:10 GMT
#2962
On April 10 2011 05:07 Fungal Growth wrote:
4 gate is really taking over PvP in these high level matches...wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard increases the research time for warp gate...

For those of you that play high level PvP, why don't players go 'forge tech' vs 4 gate? On paper cannons compare very well to stalker/zealot (32 hp*dps/cost compared to 20 for zealots and 8/6 for stalkers). The cannons can also allow you to bank gas and supply for immortals 29/11 (great stalker killers) and then fast colossi (12 hp*dps/cost but assuming 3 units a swipe it is closer to 36).

Would this work? It is too vulnerable to blink stalkers?

it allows you to tech up faster sure, and defends pretty well against an aggressive 4 gate, but like many have said before, they are worthless later on in the game. the 150 cost for the forge +1 or 2 cannons could be 3 zealots or a few stalkers more, but you're right in that pvp hasnt been fully fleshed out yet.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
April 09 2011 20:10 GMT
#2963
People are only even disappointed in the BM because it's White-ra, and we generally hold him to a higher standard. Everyone knows it's easy to get frustrated, especially in PvP.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
April 09 2011 20:10 GMT
#2964
On April 10 2011 05:09 Irrelevant wrote:
At what point does this turn into a "LAN" event? Ro8/Ro4/Finals?

Finals, both finalists will be flown to NY at the TLHQ and played there
Moderatorgold coin
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
April 09 2011 20:10 GMT
#2965
SC2 Protoss plays like SC1 Terran
SC2 Thorzain plays like SC2 Protoss
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 20:11:54
April 09 2011 20:11 GMT
#2966
On April 10 2011 05:07 Fungal Growth wrote:
4 gate is really taking over PvP in these high level matches...wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard increases the research time for warp gate...

For those of you that play high level PvP, why don't players go 'forge tech' vs 4 gate? On paper cannons compare very well to stalker/zealot (32 hp*dps/cost compared to 20 for zealots and 8/6 for stalkers). The cannons can also allow you to bank gas and supply for immortals 29/11 (great stalker killers) and then fast colossi (12 hp*dps/cost but assuming 3 units a swipe it is closer to 36).

Would this work? It is too vulnerable to blink stalkers?

It might work versus 4 gate, but your cannons cannot walk, which means that your opponent can take an expansion (as you reall need 2 cannons to be safe, at least, which is 450 minerals in total...)
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ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
April 09 2011 20:11 GMT
#2967
I'm so hyped for MC vs Thorzain already... can't wait for it
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
TroubL
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania126 Posts
April 09 2011 20:12 GMT
#2968
Well 4gate is like porn, everybody knows its bad(and easier to find than a gf) but everybody uses it. So WhiteRa(DuckloadRa) said nothing wrong, its really easy to use and super effective, he's not BM.
''Special Tactics since 1998'' - WhiteRa
haylmfao
Profile Joined January 2011
124 Posts
April 09 2011 20:13 GMT
#2969
Remove Protoss from the game and SC2 will instantly become balanced and fun.


User was warned for this post
dre2k
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands215 Posts
April 09 2011 20:13 GMT
#2970
On April 10 2011 05:07 Fungal Growth wrote:
4 gate is really taking over PvP in these high level matches...wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard increases the research time for warp gate...

For those of you that play high level PvP, why don't players go 'forge tech' vs 4 gate? On paper cannons compare very well to stalker/zealot (32 hp*dps/cost compared to 20 for zealots and 8/6 for stalkers). The cannons can also allow you to bank gas and supply for immortals 29/11 (great stalker killers) and then fast colossi (12 hp*dps/cost but assuming 3 units a swipe it is closer to 36).

You can then +1 very fast which is crucial for colossi of how their damage stacks.

Would this work? It is too vulnerable to blink stalkers?

Yes it would be vulnerable to blink stalkers, plus if it is scouted your enemy just instantly expands and can contain you with their 4 gate units for a long time.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
April 09 2011 20:14 GMT
#2971
On April 10 2011 05:10 Jayrod wrote:
SC2 Protoss plays like SC1 Terran
SC2 Thorzain plays like SC2 Protoss

I'm inclined to thoroughly disagree. SC2 terran feels like BW zerg, BW terran like SC2 zerg and protoss still being relatively similiar to its other counterpart
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
trashcan
Profile Joined November 2010
Mauritania56 Posts
April 09 2011 20:14 GMT
#2972
It's ridiculous how many people defend White-Ra based solely on Day and Incontrol's constant hyping of his good manners. White-Ra is human and gets frustrated like everyone. He was being sarcastic in the San game (admitted to it on Kelly's interview, it wasn't a compliment) so it's probably not unreasonable that he was being sarcastic in this game when he lost 3-0 with the final game being a 4-gate.

I still respect White-Ra but the people just refusing to see that he gets frustrated are hilarious. Like White-Ra is a saint or something.
Skydancer
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy249 Posts
April 09 2011 20:15 GMT
#2973
If the 4gate is the besty why he lost in game 2?
Pls come on white-ra you're 30 years old and married... stop be a child BM and QQ.
You won your're only PvP vs MC of your life in GSL WC, be happy about that!

No matter if someone said that WR would never BM because he's soo cool and so Manner... after loosing from korean his lost his credit imo...
MMA | MC | Dear
dre2k
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands215 Posts
April 09 2011 20:15 GMT
#2974
yeah like being married has anything to do with being bm or not
Karakaxe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden585 Posts
April 09 2011 20:16 GMT
#2975
I'm pretty sure Thorzain is going to put up a very good fight vs MC. Can he win though?
Sword of Omens, give me sight beyond sight.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
April 09 2011 20:17 GMT
#2976
On April 10 2011 05:15 dre2k wrote:
yeah like being married has anything to do with being bm or not


It means he's a grown-up! Adults are held to a higher standard of maturity, yknow
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
ThaneKrios
Profile Joined December 2010
46 Posts
April 09 2011 20:17 GMT
#2977
Oh my god, I was rooting for Tyler and WhiteRa.. Both 0-3'ed ):
dre2k
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands215 Posts
April 09 2011 20:17 GMT
#2978
On April 10 2011 05:17 Turgid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 05:15 dre2k wrote:
yeah like being married has anything to do with being bm or not


It means he's a grown-up! Adults are held to a higher standard of maturity, yknow

So being married makes you a grown-up? k ty
Cush
Profile Joined September 2010
United States646 Posts
April 09 2011 20:18 GMT
#2979
Very dissapointed by the games today. They were very boring.
"That's not your main base Stardust.....Stardust.....that's not your main" Sayle
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 09 2011 20:18 GMT
#2980
On April 10 2011 05:15 Skydancer wrote:
If the 4gate is the besty why he lost in game 2?
Pls come on white-ra you're 30 years old and married... stop be a child BM and QQ.
You won your're only PvP vs MC of your life in GSL WC, be happy about that!

No matter if someone said that WR would never BM because he's soo cool and so Manner... after loosing from korean his lost his credit imo...


Why are ppl making such a fuss over what white-ra said in that last game?? It's ridiculous, he made a comment about a build, a tiny bit of QQ and ppl are all over him, that's insane. It doesn't really matter if it was BM or not, he's still probably the best mannered player around, one of the most skilled (if not the most consistent) and one of the best to watch players in the scene.

God White-Ra haters are on fire today, wtf? He's the most likeable guy around, definitely.
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