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Johnranger-123
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United Kingdom341 Posts
April 10 2011 17:37 GMT
#3261
On April 10 2011 16:54 korniko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 14:49 BlackGosu wrote:
there is nothing other than bm from whitera. how can you complain about 4gate in a pvp when its the best strategy? it may be cheesy, but cheese is part of the game. as a progamer, he should know that winning is the most important, he should really control his emotions.

i agree

How was his comment bm?
Did you watch the match? :S
DarkGeneral
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada328 Posts
April 10 2011 17:40 GMT
#3262
I'm keeping an eye on this thorzain duder, he seems promising.
"Everybody gotta die some time, righ'?" - Wraith Pilot
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
April 10 2011 17:42 GMT
#3263
On April 11 2011 02:40 DarkGeneral wrote:
I'm keeping an eye on this thorzain duder, he seems promising.


yeah he did. a lot of people say that tyler lost the series by not playing his best, but thorzain definitely played well regardless. he showed what is probably the best response to double forge with double engineering bay, which i havent seen before and am glad to see. good luck to him vs mc i will be rooting for him!
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
April 10 2011 17:53 GMT
#3264
On April 11 2011 02:40 DarkGeneral wrote:
I'm keeping an eye on this thorzain duder, he seems promising.


I have a feeling he won't win it.
Fruit dealer admittedly not the best zerg and there was lag.
Followed by Tyler whose upgrade gateway style will never long term be good. 3/3 against 0/0 might work out well, but when they keep up with you in upgrades even without ghosts they level your army. Not really a test of skill just almost a flop on tech choice.
When he faces an opponent that isn't lagging or choosing a weak strategy then we can claim him king.
Bunnypanda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States103 Posts
April 10 2011 18:04 GMT
#3265
On April 11 2011 02:53 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 02:40 DarkGeneral wrote:
I'm keeping an eye on this thorzain duder, he seems promising.


I have a feeling he won't win it.
Fruit dealer admittedly not the best zerg and there was lag.
Followed by Tyler whose upgrade gateway style will never long term be good. 3/3 against 0/0 might work out well, but when they keep up with you in upgrades even without ghosts they level your army. Not really a test of skill just almost a flop on tech choice.
When he faces an opponent that isn't lagging or choosing a weak strategy then we can claim him king.


As far as I've seen not one person proclaims him "king", they all say "woah, maybe i should keep an eye on thorz and see how he does"
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
April 10 2011 18:19 GMT
#3266
Strange thing, couldn't access TL directly, had to go through google's cached version of the site then navigate from there to access the stream....guess I ain't the only one but thought I'd mention it....too many simultaneous connexions ???
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
WindOw
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden407 Posts
April 10 2011 18:28 GMT
#3267
Feels like Tyler rage quited at the last game, It's not likely that he just "dropped" randomly... A bit BM imo.
AKA WindOw[InCa] (BW) | TheMisT (SC2) | NaNiwa FC founder
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 18:43:33
April 10 2011 18:40 GMT
#3268
On April 11 2011 03:04 Bunnypanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 02:53 NoobSkills wrote:
On April 11 2011 02:40 DarkGeneral wrote:
I'm keeping an eye on this thorzain duder, he seems promising.


I have a feeling he won't win it.
Fruit dealer admittedly not the best zerg and there was lag.
Followed by Tyler whose upgrade gateway style will never long term be good. 3/3 against 0/0 might work out well, but when they keep up with you in upgrades even without ghosts they level your army. Not really a test of skill just almost a flop on tech choice.
When he faces an opponent that isn't lagging or choosing a weak strategy then we can claim him king.


As far as I've seen not one person proclaims him "king", they all say "woah, maybe i should keep an eye on thorz and see how he does"


Wasn't saying that they did. I'm saying I'd like to see him be badass just hasn't really proven it to me yet. Beating Tyler who is very good is nice, but that double forge BO was proven easily countered. I actually would like to give him the crown though so many BO's for him very nice to see. Perhaps his next round will be just as amazing though.

Edit: Plays MC next. That would make this very interesting since even if there is lag MC is the supposed best player on the planet which should overcome any lag. If thorzain doesn't straight early pressure with 3-4 rax every game this will be interesting. Looking forward to it.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
April 10 2011 23:23 GMT
#3269
Nony's play so substandard after him saying he was at his sc2 peak. I almost feel like he is laddering against inferior opponents and single player to much and therefore his early game scouting was off as was his early aggression in games 1 and 3. Game 2 seemed like a bit of bad luck as that tank popping 5 secs earlier or later would have probably been highly beneficial to nony instead of it popping the second thorazian pulled everything.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
April 11 2011 14:22 GMT
#3270
MC beasting like usual.

Westerners not giving him credit, like usual.

White-Ra takes 1 game off him in the GSLWC using an unorthodox strategy and suddenly everyone feels foreigners are equal to him.

Not the case.

I'm sure he'll lose in TSL due to lag, sadly.
ScythedBlade
Profile Joined May 2010
308 Posts
April 11 2011 14:35 GMT
#3271
On April 11 2011 23:22 RinconH wrote:
MC beasting like usual.

Westerners not giving him credit, like usual.

White-Ra takes 1 game off him in the GSLWC using an unorthodox strategy and suddenly everyone feels foreigners are equal to him.

Not the case.

I'm sure he'll lose in TSL due to lag, sadly.


Basically, everyone was feeling "Oh someone has a chance". But if you watched the whole GSLWC for team matches, it was pretty insanely close. Especially when TT1 and Dimaga did so well.

Although MC is pretty much *should* be unstoppable, we can still see that he has nerve issues, and he might tend to be worse when he's overconfident like vs. MKP.
RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
April 11 2011 15:03 GMT
#3272
^ I agree with that.

Clearly "the gap" is closer than most initially assumed but I was mainly commenting on the casters and their bias.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
April 11 2011 15:16 GMT
#3273
On April 11 2011 02:53 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 02:40 DarkGeneral wrote:
I'm keeping an eye on this thorzain duder, he seems promising.


I have a feeling he won't win it.
Fruit dealer admittedly not the best zerg and there was lag.
Followed by Tyler whose upgrade gateway style will never long term be good. 3/3 against 0/0 might work out well, but when they keep up with you in upgrades even without ghosts they level your army. Not really a test of skill just almost a flop on tech choice.
When he faces an opponent that isn't lagging or choosing a weak strategy then we can claim him king.

Man, come on. People always love to give wins to an opponent playing poorly as opposed to them playing well. Thorzain looked crisp as fuck, and Tyler's play would have beaten many other Terrans in this tournament. Thorzain is dope as fuck.
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