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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied.

Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't.
Shocae
Profile Joined August 2010
United States141 Posts
March 27 2011 11:08 GMT
#1661
Less hate, more love.
lolsamplesize
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
March 27 2011 11:13 GMT
#1662
On March 27 2011 18:59 pyro19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 18:46 haflo wrote:
New players :
(Z)ViBE
(Z)MoMaN
(Z)mOOnGLaDe
(T)Stalife
(T)Drewbie



I have no idea how the remaining players got in.They"re not bad actually , but this is slowly turning into a "Above Average only" Starleague.

Moman is pretty darn good
Imascotsman
Profile Joined October 2010
255 Posts
March 27 2011 11:18 GMT
#1663
On March 27 2011 20:00 Bayyne wrote:
Group is 5 is looking disgustingly good, too bad only two of them will advance to the RO 16. Although I guess it's possible a few more could make it out of the bracket playoffs as well.

Nonetheless, invites are looking great so far!



I thought it was 3 per group that advance and the 16th player is from the open tournament / qualification.
UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
March 27 2011 11:29 GMT
#1664
On March 27 2011 19:57 JustPassingBy wrote:
Well, the intro video says "the greatest players the world has ever seen."
So it remains to be shown whether that is really true or if the intro video is trolling us.

you forget that to americans the world is America.

I'm just kidding btw, I think this tourny looks fantastic.
Gogo Grubby.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 12:50:17
March 27 2011 11:36 GMT
#1665
On March 27 2011 19:50 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 19:45 gruff wrote:
You call the players bad, I call them up and coming. Sure there are some that won't cut it but it's kind of sad when people dismiss players before they have even had a chance to prove themselves.


(no player bashing intended; just commenting on mechanics)

isn't that what qualifiers are for? like it was done in the TSL. but these are intives make them as strong as possible, there will still be upsets either way. next season fresh guys qualify (I would kick out more than 16 players btw). that's how it should work.


Sure qualifiers would have been great, but I don't know the reasoning NASL used to do it the way they did. Maybe it was pr reasons, maybe they didn't want to run 10 qualifiers before getting to the planned league format or something else. It could be much worse. *shrug* It will be there for next season anyway so I don't see it as a big issue.

On March 27 2011 19:54 imbs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 19:45 gruff wrote:
You call the players bad, I call them up and coming. Sure there are some that won't cut it but it's kind of sad when people dismiss players before they have even had a chance to prove themselves.

And the games can still be entertain even though not all players are at the very top level.

there are like 5 players up there who actually generate some excitement to watch play. in a 100k dollar hugely hyped tournament? such a let down either way.


According to you. I can name many more than 5 players that I'll find exciting to watch play. And I don't see how big the prize pool is have anything to do with what games you find entertaining.
Moskau
Profile Joined July 2010
114 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 12:26:49
March 27 2011 12:00 GMT
#1666
It's mind blowing how ungrateful some of the people who post about the NASL. Every single person that has so far been invited is good. Yeah sure maybe Cruncher isn't an established player, so what? He's part of a historically top esports team, and he's only one of 50 other players, who cares.

Also to all those saying you need the "best" to make a tournament entertaining, that's completely false. Both TSL&TSL2 had no top korean players in it, yet it was very exciting and very entertaining, as well as a success. Who cares if the NASL is not trying to be the GSL, they can still do well. MLG was blowing up by picking up sc2, and guess what, no top korean players played in those tournaments either.

NASL having all koreans doesn't sound practical to me. Why would they try to make a clone of the GSL? Sounds like a bad business plan to me (lets just copy the GSL completely!), why not instead build it around the people and players who are from where the league is located? Makes perfect sense to me, I don't understand how it doesn't make sense to some of the posters in this thread.

Also if you don't know some of the players in this league, sorry you aren't much of a follower of sc2. Almost all of them are very well known and popular, and if you haven't at least heard of someone like a vibe, moman, or stalife you apparently haven't been following much sc2 as they have been around since beta competing in tournaments. Every player can't have won a major event. Vibe is one of the better zergs in north america, he did well in a few of the TSLO brackets, including getting to the ro4 in one of them. Stalife has been in d9d, as well as won and been in the top3 of many smaller online tournaments. Even if you don't know them, who cares, guess how many of the koreans you knew before the first season of the GSL, maybe 25% of them? Probably less.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
March 27 2011 12:01 GMT
#1667
I pretty much have to agree with everything Moskau just said.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 12:35:56
March 27 2011 12:08 GMT
#1668
On March 27 2011 20:18 Imascotsman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 20:00 Bayyne wrote:
Group is 5 is looking disgustingly good, too bad only two of them will advance to the RO 16. Although I guess it's possible a few more could make it out of the bracket playoffs as well.

Nonetheless, invites are looking great so far!



I thought it was 3 per group that advance and the 16th player is from the open tournament / qualification.

Nope. First two from each division, ranks 11-30 play 5 brackets of four each, and another player comes in from the open tournament.

10 + 5 + 1 = 16 man finals
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
March 27 2011 12:20 GMT
#1669
On March 27 2011 20:08 Shocae wrote:
Less hate, more love.

If you can chill, chill.
Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
March 27 2011 12:21 GMT
#1670
ViBe
MoMan
Moonglade
Stalife
Drewbie

all need to be added
Head of Production at FACEITTV, ex-WW & Mouz SC2 manager
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
March 27 2011 12:28 GMT
#1671
After seeing last nights TSL and seeing that there is lag that is noticable (regardless of the results) I think it will be a rough ride for any sc2 online tournament organizers.

Was really hoping that the delays/lag/latency or whatever it's called won't be noticable for the naked eye but damn there was some obvious moments.

I think the format GSL is running therefore is the absolute best one so there can be no discussion on lag/latency etc...

That aside, good luck NASL!
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 12:34:21
March 27 2011 12:32 GMT
#1672
On March 27 2011 21:08 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 20:18 Imascotsman wrote:
On March 27 2011 20:00 Bayyne wrote:
Group is 5 is looking disgustingly good, too bad only two of them will advance to the RO 16. Although I guess it's possible a few more could make it out of the bracket playoffs as well.

Nonetheless, invites are looking great so far!



I thought it was 3 per group that advance and the 16th player is from the open tournament / qualification.

Nope. First two from each division, ranks 11-30 play 4 brackets of five each, and another player comes in from the open tournament.

10 + 5 + 1 = 16 man finals


It's actually 5 brackets, 4 players in each. Winner from each bracket advances.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
March 27 2011 12:35 GMT
#1673
On March 27 2011 21:32 Bayyne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 21:08 Bobster wrote:
On March 27 2011 20:18 Imascotsman wrote:
On March 27 2011 20:00 Bayyne wrote:
Group is 5 is looking disgustingly good, too bad only two of them will advance to the RO 16. Although I guess it's possible a few more could make it out of the bracket playoffs as well.

Nonetheless, invites are looking great so far!



I thought it was 3 per group that advance and the 16th player is from the open tournament / qualification.

Nope. First two from each division, ranks 11-30 play 4 brackets of five each, and another player comes in from the open tournament.

10 + 5 + 1 = 16 man finals


It's actually 5 brackets, 4 players in each. Winner from each bracket advances.

Whoops, obviously. My mistake.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 27 2011 13:10 GMT
#1674
Ah, more whining, love it. Oh well, the korean fanboy whiners will find a way to cry even if they get invited as they may lose like they're doing in the TSL and then there'll be the insta "omfg Koreans only lose to LAG" rubbish.

There obviously will be Korean players selected, the amount of whinging is almost unbelieveable really, although I too was a bit underwhelmed with today's selections, apart from Drewbie as i'm a massive fan! One of the strongest players from each draw keeps getting put in group 5....hope that balances out with the next few picks :S
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 27 2011 13:27 GMT
#1675
On March 27 2011 21:28 papaz wrote:
After seeing last nights TSL and seeing that there is lag that is noticable (regardless of the results) I think it will be a rough ride for any sc2 online tournament organizers.


Well, according to Jinro you can get accustomed to the lag.
Not saying that it has no influence on the game,
but with enough practise (and tournaments like the NASL to make this practise worthwhile)
the effect will become less and less significant.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
March 27 2011 13:43 GMT
#1676
Maybe NASL should implement a slight format change, instead of the Top 2 of each division qualifying, the Top 10 from Division 5 make it.

Would ensure a good finals tournament all on its own!
Lunit
Profile Joined July 2010
United States183 Posts
March 27 2011 13:56 GMT
#1677
Artosis???!!!!
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
March 27 2011 13:58 GMT
#1678
When are they announcing 5 new? Like every day? Whenever? o.o
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
March 27 2011 14:01 GMT
#1679
On March 27 2011 21:00 Moskau wrote:
Also if you don't know some of the players in this league, sorry you aren't much of a follower of sc2. Almost all of them are very well known and popular, and if you haven't at least heard of someone like a vibe, moman, or stalife you apparently haven't been following much sc2 as they have been around since beta competing in tournaments. Every player can't have won a major event. Vibe is one of the better zergs in north america, he did well in a few of the TSLO brackets, including getting to the ro4 in one of them. Stalife has been in d9d, as well as won and been in the top3 of many smaller online tournaments. Even if you don't know them, who cares, guess how many of the koreans you knew before the first season of the GSL, maybe 25% of them? Probably less.

That actually hit the mark. Honestly before GSL1, the only known players were Idra, Fruitdealer, Tester, Ensnare, Maka, TLO, Artosis, perhaps more. Look how that has changed.

People forget that the NASL is designed to be a competitive league to grow the Starcraft 2 scene in NA. And if people see that the price money is more than worth it, they'll have more incentives to practice for it. We're seeing team houses pop up and if there's money to be made in North America, then players can give up more time to actually practice and get good at it.

Bringing in too many Koreans, I think will ruin chances for good North American players to make a name for themselves and to improve the quality of North American Starcraft.

Ultimately, it'll then be up to the WCGs and other World Invite events (eg GOM's World Championship) to determine who the best players in the worlds are comparatively.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
VirGin
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway278 Posts
March 27 2011 14:13 GMT
#1680
On March 27 2011 23:01 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 21:00 Moskau wrote:
Also if you don't know some of the players in this league, sorry you aren't much of a follower of sc2. Almost all of them are very well known and popular, and if you haven't at least heard of someone like a vibe, moman, or stalife you apparently haven't been following much sc2 as they have been around since beta competing in tournaments. Every player can't have won a major event. Vibe is one of the better zergs in north america, he did well in a few of the TSLO brackets, including getting to the ro4 in one of them. Stalife has been in d9d, as well as won and been in the top3 of many smaller online tournaments. Even if you don't know them, who cares, guess how many of the koreans you knew before the first season of the GSL, maybe 25% of them? Probably less.

That actually hit the mark. Honestly before GSL1, the only known players were Idra, Fruitdealer, Tester, Ensnare, Maka, TLO, Artosis, perhaps more. Look how that has changed.


I disagree. In GSL1 the game was brand new, and unless every single well known BW player switched over, most of the players would have to be unknowns.

This is not comparable.
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