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On March 15 2011 19:34 Asha` wrote: And there we go.
Close pos Meta:
Steal gas, pretty much guarantee that four gate.
Shortal after: Lose to four gate. ice and fire fan?
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On March 15 2011 19:34 cuppatea wrote: Meta is such an awful map. Might as well skip it and just decide the game by a coin flip because the difference between close and far spawns is astronomical. Doesn't help when you steal his gas to egg him into 4gate either...then not be able to defend it.
Not exactly a "coin flip", Zenio knew what he was doing, he just didn't do it well
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i'll never get that gas steal. 3 gate expand seems a very much more skill requiring build compared to what we just saw. much more room for the P to mess up with the sentries.
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zenio seemed to have forgotten how to deal with 4gate, while that isnt credible it just...he can do so much better
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TSL_Killer vs. oGsZenio
2nd map: Crossfire
Killer: 7 Zenio: 2
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Super Saiyan vs Normal Saiyan. I wonder who will win 8D
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I don't want a Zenio VS Boxer match...
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On March 15 2011 19:34 Jakkerr wrote: Zenios fault for failing the defense if you gassteal a toss on close positions hes gonna 4gate you 100% if I know that he knows that since the day the game was released So true. But the roaches are not a mistake. I mostly make 1 spinecrawler in natural and just try to hold the toss there while all my drones are in my main.
Keep making speedlings and some roaches and you win.
EDIT: At the point that toss takes down your natural you mostly have the units to crush him. Just make sure you hold him a while on your natural while your superior economy + better army composition wins.
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I like how people blame the map & 4gate instead of the zerg player who didn't even prepare to defend properly.
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On March 15 2011 19:35 SetStndbySmn wrote: Talk about 4 gate all you want, but I feel totally justified doing this if a zerg wants to be irritating with gas steals.
This is probably the first time nobody has been pissed about 4gate
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On March 15 2011 19:34 dtz wrote: can't believe zenio didnt prepare well for the 4gate 1 gas considering he was asking for it with the gas steal..
This soo many times over
Happens so much on ladder where a zerg will steal my gas then complain that i four gate. If you restrict me to one gas builds then be prepared to stop the only One Gas Build.
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On March 15 2011 19:34 cuppatea wrote: Meta is such an awful map. Might as well skip it and just decide the game by a coin flip because the difference between close and far spawns is astronomical.
Agreed, Such a random map shouldn't be in the map pool. I really don't know why so many people, pros included, think its a good map just hoping its gonna be cross spawn when that 1/3 chance of close spawn makes it so random!
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On March 15 2011 19:31 Skytalker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 19:29 iLLusive wrote: This is Live Report thread not a spam screenshot thread right? Can we only post relevant screens of them winning or something epic and not just randomly cause we feel like it? So you feel the screenshots of the players are random in a LR thread...? I posted screenshots caus i thought it would be nice for people not being able to watch, but if people dont want to have i can very easily stop.
Nope that is relevant information right? Just becomes a ton of spam when 3 people are posting screens of players, standings pages, and other random stuff. Standings can easily be seen by clicking on name of players on orginal post. If it was one person doing it on one single post I wouldn't care. So maybe wait until you have 2-3 ready and post it at once. Hey do what you want friend but really should just be one person doing it for again relevant screen worthy shots.
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On March 15 2011 19:35 Emporio wrote: TSL_Killer vs. oGsZenio
2nd map: Crossfire
Killer: 7 Zenio: 2 Pool first, steals gas again Killer takes other gas
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The execution of 4-gate seems so simple compared to defending one... just a move and hope the zerg doesn't do a 100% perfect defense. I guess you win way over 50% in that situation as a protoss.
That is at least how it feels to me. :p
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On March 15 2011 19:33 billyX333 wrote: wow steal gas >>>> unprepared to stop the only strong 1 gas build
He stopped at ~20 drones and tried to mass lings/roaches. He got his natural delayed a lot and didn't had enough larva to go only lings though. Lings are very bad against those 6-8 zealots, that's why he tried roaches too. How can you prepare better than that?
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On March 15 2011 19:36 Hokay wrote: I like how people blame the map & 4gate instead of the zerg player who didn't even prepare to defend properly.
with the extremely delayed nat, he had no time to even put down a spinecrawler
he did everything right (mass speedling off of 20 drones) and its impossible to defend
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On March 15 2011 19:36 Emporio wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 19:35 Emporio wrote: TSL_Killer vs. oGsZenio
2nd map: Crossfire
Killer: 7 Zenio: 2 Pool first, steals gas again Killer takes other gas Speed researching, warp gate researching, no chrono on it
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On March 15 2011 19:36 Hokay wrote: I like how people blame the map & 4gate instead of the zerg player who didn't even prepare to defend properly.
they're sc2 zerg players, what do you expect
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On March 15 2011 19:37 calvinL wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 19:36 Hokay wrote: I like how people blame the map & 4gate instead of the zerg player who didn't even prepare to defend properly. with the extremely delayed nat, he had no time to even put down a spinecrawler he did everything right (mass speedling off of 20 drones) and its impossible to defend
It's not impossible to defend.
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