EPT[GSL] Code S Semifinals - Page 98
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TheBJ
Bulgaria906 Posts
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shire
United States405 Posts
On March 13 2011 03:45 alan25 wrote: yeah i want july to win, because wasn't he from code a? he worked his way here... mc alraedy won!!! (2x of the winnings now if u count prize pool from season 3) ya he might be the first 'royal roader' get into code S and winning in his first code S season. | ||
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Freebirdo7
United States163 Posts
Obviously im rooting for the Brotoss but it could go either way imo | ||
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shire
United States405 Posts
On March 13 2011 03:46 bigjenk wrote: I find it extremely funny that july does so well playing a hyper aggressive style and pointing out all the small flaws people have in their builds while idra is whining about how zerg is completely unplayable because his style isn't working the best. Hopefully this sparks some aggression out of other zergs other than fd and they stop playing passive and defending for 20 mins every game now. idra plays like he is playing terran back in sc:bw days. i personally don't think he is a 'true zerg' perhaps he should play terran again? | ||
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HowSoOnIsNow
Canada480 Posts
On March 12 2011 21:23 syllogism wrote: I'm actually quite impressed by Nada's results given how little he apparently practices. July on the other hand practices more than almost anyone and has been playing SC2 for a long time. Your post is based on the assumption BW talent/skills translate effortlessly to SC2 and the fact someone wasn't a top BW player means he cannot be a top SC2 player as the top BW players will always be better. MVP has actually played SC2 a lot less than July and yet he is still clearly the better player, even balance considerations aside. It's clear being a top BW player helps considerably, but the lack of BW experience or results is not an insurmountable obstacle and the opposite is not a guarantee of success. BW had a mechanical barrier some players couldn't overcome either due to lack of "talent" or time, but the barrier is much lower in SC2. In summary, your post was exactly the kind of post I've come to expect from people who accept these certain assumptions at face value, despite some evidence to the contrary. Considering I got SC1 at release date and have been following the scene since BW, I'm quite informed, thank you very much. The guy is in a final of the GSL. MVP is clearly superior to July? Wasnt he beaten twice in a row? Oh i guess it was luck. Well you know, Napoleon Bonaparte said that his biggest skill, was to master his luck. The MVP argument is rather poor as well because he was a terran that could have gone very far in BW. MVP doesnt lack experience in BW. He also play Terran, a race that have been easier to figure out so far. Zerg has been the race that players have the hardest time to figure out. It`s still not figured out. July drone timing is quite new. He`s bringing new stuff on the table. Clearly his experience and raw talent at RTS translate to SC2. FFS July is one of the most talented RTS player ever. It`s only normal to assume he`ll do well at SC2. I admit that i have reservations towards WC3 players, i find that mechanically they are poor. But BW and Sc2 fundamentals are very similar. They`re not world apart. | ||
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HowSoOnIsNow
Canada480 Posts
On March 13 2011 01:28 zyzq wrote: I'm pretty sure everyone knew that MVP and MC were the best even before they won a GSL. That`s so untrue. MC was a talented player and a well known choker before he won GSL3. | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
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alan25
United States379 Posts
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RevRich
United States218 Posts
On March 13 2011 03:54 TheBJ wrote: Well now that we have the epic players the only thing i would like to see is an entrance like FBH's here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r7BB78mk34&feature=related ROFL thats so great GoGo July! | ||
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Nagano
United States1157 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8771/julylolyu3.jpg) JULY FIGHTING! God, soooooo excited to see a zerg, let alone JULYZERG, in a GSL final! Ahhhhhhhhhh! | ||
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hydraden
United States719 Posts
On March 13 2011 02:17 Corrik wrote: I think before MVP won... we considered MarineKing to be the best Terran, but MVP was ranked 1st in Korean Ladder and I think AliveFoU was the 2nd ranked on the ladder (both terrans). Thus, we were never surprised by MVP winning. In the beginning of last season, people were already saying that MVP is the best player, not only best terran. | ||
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LastLordofCastamere
288 Posts
But my heart says July will surprise us all. July Fightiiiiing! | ||
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hydraden
United States719 Posts
On March 13 2011 03:54 TheBJ wrote: Well now that we have the epic players the only thing i would like to see is an entrance like FBH's here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r7BB78mk34&feature=related That's GomTV MSL group selection, put these two names together, that's also funny, haha. | ||
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alan25
United States379 Posts
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hydraden
United States719 Posts
On March 13 2011 04:31 Nagano wrote: JULY FIGHTING! God, soooooo excited to see a zerg, let alone JULYZERG, in a GSL final! Ahhhhhhhhhh! Nice pic. But can't figure out how his legs are working here. | ||
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TheBJ
Bulgaria906 Posts
On March 13 2011 04:41 hydraden wrote: That's GomTV MSL group selection, put these two names together, that's also funny, haha. haha i dont believe FBH got out of his group even , if i recall correctly. But imagine july doing this ceremony shirtless | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On March 13 2011 04:17 PartyBiscuit wrote: I feel MC will 4-0 July (at worst 4-1), here's hoping we won't have yet another one-sided finals You definately don't know July. He is the God of War and MC will have a very hard time against July. I would give 50/50 for both player. A few years back, in SC:BW, after being successful for many years, July started to go down. When everybody thinks he's finished and he can't win anything major anymore. He got to the OSL final(most prestige individual Starcraft league in the world). Even after making his way to the final, he was up against Best one of the best Protoss at that time and still is today. No one predict he to win except his crazy fans. But guess what, which some super agrressive and creative gameplay he WON the FINAL 3-0. July is very scary to play against. His SC2 style is very similar to his SC:BW style, his baneling burst has alway reminded me of the game July beat iloveoov with a 2 lings run by with some awesome micro. | ||
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kaisr
Canada715 Posts
On March 13 2011 04:56 Caphe wrote: You definately don't know July. He is the God of War and MC will have a very hard time against July. I would give 50/50 for both player. A few years back, in SC:BW, after being successful for many years, July started to go down. When everybody thinks he's finished and he can't win anything major anymore. He got to the OSL final(most prestige individual Starcraft league in the world). Even after making his way to the final, he was up against Best one of the best Protoss at that time and still is today. No one predict he to win except his crazy fans. But guess what, which some super agrressive and creative gameplay he WON the FINAL 3-0. July is very scary to play against. His SC2 style is very similar to his SC:BW style, his baneling burst has alway reminded me of the game July beat iloveoov with a 2 lings run by with some awesome micro. The thing i loved most about that finals was that first two games were definitely gimmicky but very smart, but the last game he just beast macroed and raped best straight up | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On March 13 2011 03:58 shire wrote: idra plays like he is playing terran back in sc:bw days. i personally don't think he is a 'true zerg' perhaps he should play terran again? He wouldn't because he has "self respect" lol. | ||
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
On March 13 2011 03:58 shire wrote: idra plays like he is playing terran back in sc:bw days. i personally don't think he is a 'true zerg' perhaps he should play terran again? Thats a funny observation. I agree with this. idra even says that zerg's strength is in the midgame but he seems to be more concerned with getting 75 drones and 6-8 gas asap while july seems to actually cut drone production much earlier to enter that midgame aggression phase earlier to keep the army sizes smaller from what i've experienced and seen, being maxed as zerg while being unable to kill your opponent is a really tricky situation to get into and would probably be best avoided entirely through constant mid game aggression | ||
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