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GOM.Sam
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)210 Posts
February 25 2011 10:53 GMT
#1181
On February 25 2011 19:52 GTR wrote:
did the sf guy say 'junny'?


Correct way to say the ID in Korean I guess...
Roll Tide.
Sindsygafnatur
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark265 Posts
February 25 2011 10:53 GMT
#1182
On February 25 2011 19:48 hydraden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 19:32 Sindsygafnatur wrote:
How the fuck can the terran afford all that shit?!


Like Jinro once said "Those marines cost nothing."


He said that? Man that makes me wanna punch him in the face! :D
Nah joking, but that is really saying a lot about the current situation. Zerglings don't cost anything either, the problem is the larva though....
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 25 2011 10:53 GMT
#1183
Forge expand vs a gas/pool/17 expo from the zerg.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
February 25 2011 10:54 GMT
#1184
kelly seems somewhat quiet and depressed from moonglade's lost.
Don't mind me
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 25 2011 10:54 GMT
#1185
With any luck Artosis handed Tasteless a notepad of Squirtle jokes to use for tonight.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 10:54:36
February 25 2011 10:54 GMT
#1186
pretty ballsy going forge first
wat
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
February 25 2011 10:54 GMT
#1187
Alicia forge expanding on XNC, Junwi goes pool gas, expand, then speed
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Ultramus
Profile Joined June 2010
United States319 Posts
February 25 2011 10:54 GMT
#1188
That map is too favored against zerg, especially in ZvT. A tiny choke and one tank can prevent any sort of punishment for that quick 3rd, after that he has a higher/same econ and marine tank cannot be defeated without having an econ advantage. Roaches will not beat marine tank at all, and it will delay mutas, which are absolutely necessary. Also going roaches to stop hellions and delaying lair means you completely give up map control and banshees/drops become very potent.

I'm not sure if it's that map that just makes it too easy to get to 3 bases quickly and defend while terran harass options cannot be dealt with cost effectively, just the amount of lings necessary to defend means you sacked econ. MU looks pretty grim for zerg these days, I think Idra may have been right when he said no zergs will be winning anymore :/

I feel terrible for Haypro and Glade who are both sick good players.
Baking is like science for hungry people
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 10:56:14
February 25 2011 10:54 GMT
#1189
On February 25 2011 19:43 GTR wrote:
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On February 25 2011 19:42 Lann555 wrote:
On February 25 2011 19:42 GTR wrote:
On February 25 2011 19:39 Tachion wrote:
How should Zerg's approach Terminus? go crazy insane FE mode to 5 bases quick? Is there any way possible to deny that quick Terran 3rd?


i personally think they should play it out like a bw map. 3 hatch straight into muta, using only speedlings/spine crawlers to defend their choke. then use muta's to control the map while expanding + macroing up.


Wouldn't the hellion drop fuck you up pretty badly?


if you have a good eye, you should be able to stop any drops when they come.


I thought it over while I made a sandwich and securing 3 expos + spire tech with only lings and crawlers seems impossible on any map so far so I think 2 hatch + queen is pretty much what you mean, but there's a few things wrong with that I think.

1. Terran has so many more cute ways to harass before the mutas come out.
2. Marines. They are so good.
Jieun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States247 Posts
February 25 2011 10:54 GMT
#1190
On February 25 2011 19:53 GOM.Sam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 19:52 GTR wrote:
did the sf guy say 'junny'?


Correct way to say the ID in Korean I guess...


wait, you aren't korean?
Kvothe
Profile Joined September 2010
201 Posts
February 25 2011 10:54 GMT
#1191
On February 25 2011 19:49 ChApFoU wrote:
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On February 25 2011 19:21 Essentia wrote:
On February 25 2011 19:20 Unterweltler wrote:
watching haypro and moonglade play vs koreans makes idra look about 1000 times better.


That is because IdrA IS 1,000 times better.


Idra 1000 times better than Haypro ? Stop the fanboyism dude :/


That might be a complete exaggeration but the point is there, Idra is on a completely different level than haypro or moonglade, don't see how you could think otherwise.
BluePabs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
February 25 2011 10:55 GMT
#1192
On February 25 2011 19:54 Parnage wrote:
With any luck Artosis handed Tasteless a notepad of Squirtle jokes to use for tonight.


haha I hope so!
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
February 25 2011 10:56 GMT
#1193
On February 25 2011 19:54 ptbl wrote:
kelly seems somewhat quiet and depressed from moonglade's lost.


I'm amazed she hasn't broken down and left the casting table. That's what I would have done.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 10:56:29
February 25 2011 10:56 GMT
#1194
Junwi is going for a ling/bane cannon bust off 2 base.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
February 25 2011 10:56 GMT
#1195
Stargate tech by alicia, junwi baneling bust
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Essentia
Profile Joined July 2010
1150 Posts
February 25 2011 10:56 GMT
#1196
On February 25 2011 19:52 jjmmtt wrote:
Dunno how you beat a solid 3 basing terran at all as zerg. I just see zerg after zerg just dying to 3 base terran. Idra against Jinro recently (6 zerg bases to 3) even... Especially on those big maps where terran insta-3base.


You don't. Terran can basically turtle until they get up a 3 base marine/tank/thor army and there is no army composition that zerg has than can efficiently fight it. Roach get evaporated banes will never hit their target cause they are too slow. Ultras are a joke and broods are at least decent but not the answer.

HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
February 25 2011 10:56 GMT
#1197
If Kelly and Tasteless were to have babies, would they then be Hybrids?

I mean, Tasteless is a P and Kelly a Z player.
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
ICA
Profile Joined January 2011
498 Posts
February 25 2011 10:56 GMT
#1198
I doubt this will work though
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
February 25 2011 10:57 GMT
#1199
On February 25 2011 19:48 teamsolid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 19:45 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On February 25 2011 19:41 teamsolid wrote:
On February 25 2011 19:38 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On February 25 2011 19:37 BrahCJ wrote:
:'(

That is how you play terran..... These large large maps have certainly changed the terran mind set, and on 3 bases, what the fuck can you do??




not get "killed" by some blueflame hellions. evrything snowballed from that. cause of that he couldnt properly defend the first big push so he lost 2 hatches/expansions. at that point it was over.

Actually... Moonglade defended the blue-flame hellions pretty much perfectly, considering what his opening was (speedling/banes). The multi-pronged push is actually incredibly hard to defend if the Terran actually has good macro, which JJun did. I wouldn't say Moonglade played poorly at all, it just looks like it from an observer's perspective.


Moonglade may have lost minimal drones, but they were kept away from mining for a long period of time meanwhile Jjun expands behind his Hellion harass and gets up his 3rd. Moonglade's 3rd was late and unsaturated for a bit. That snowballed into what we just saw unfortunately. Perhaps instead of banelings, Moonglade should've gone for Roaches.

Indeed, roaches would've been the better choice, but you can only say that in hindsight. If JJun had instead gone for a stim timing push, roach opening is pretty much auto-loss. I think that's why almost every Z opens up with ling/baneling if they're unable to scout the T tech path. Roach opening is only safe if you actually scout the factory going up.

Losing mining time is also waaaay better than actually losing the drones, which would've happened had he not run the drones away.


lol its not auto loss, roach ling baneling crushes 4rax stim timing push
Vandro
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands384 Posts
February 25 2011 10:57 GMT
#1200
On February 25 2011 19:52 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 19:52 GTR wrote:
did the sf guy say 'junny'?


he said I am Johnny


Should've said: Here's Johnny!
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