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joomanjii
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States284 Posts
February 25 2011 10:50 GMT
#1161
On February 25 2011 19:49 Scrandom wrote:
John is becoming an awesome interviewer but does this mean the days of trolling Artosis are over?


I guess we'll have to troll John now.
"zerg should have taken every gas on the map, built as many hatches as he could, walked out of his booth, and pressed his dick against the glass of the terran's booth until all his buildings went down." - bronzeterran
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
February 25 2011 10:50 GMT
#1162
On February 25 2011 19:49 ZeraToss wrote:
sry to say that, but i dont want to see junwi vs alicia, because i want to see SQUIRTLE NOW


Tasteless choose Squirtle NOW
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
February 25 2011 10:51 GMT
#1163
On February 25 2011 19:47 getpicture wrote:
zergs try to match terran income by getting more harvesters than terran. this means zerg will have a smaller army.

also the future of tvz will be getting a stronger ground army with less focus on mutas. mutas aren't combat units they're used for harassing and they have low raw power.

im masters and pure roach crushes terran. the trick is to not match terran income but utilise the fact that terran is vulnerable when they spend so much on infrastructure. timing push between 9- 12 minute pure roach and get quick overlord drop + speed.

muta ling sucks as lings get crushed by splash and high dps marines (likewise you don't make ling or muta vs protoss or even fast expand why get greedy. for those who don't know protoss econ is even stronger than terran. no need to get greedy. terran rate of production is really low.

moonglade need more practice partners


"Also the future of tvz will be getting a stronger ground army with less focus on mutas".
Wrong. You don't go pure ground when terran has so many tanks.

"im masters and pure roach crushes terran"
Roaches vs marine/tanks and the obvious marauders? ...

Sorry but you are so wrong.
Ghorgh
Profile Joined September 2010
170 Posts
February 25 2011 10:51 GMT
#1164
Who is the 'pressident'? Missed that.
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
February 25 2011 10:51 GMT
#1165
On February 25 2011 19:41 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 19:39 lorkac wrote:
It would be Zerg favored if they went

14 hatch
14 pool
17 hatch

ANd yeah, I mean be really f'king greedy and double expand.


Not very smart if you play a terran like Rain and double expand so fast isn't as strong as you think it is. This is not Broodwar.


Terminus has 1 choke. You delay the queens and depend on zerglings and spines to defend the front ala broodwar sunken defense.

You don't get gas until after you've built the third hatch delaying tech and depending on building an extra 2-3 queens for defense (above the 3 queens for the 3 hatches) and tech straight to Roach (more larva efficient)

The reason for the fast third is to get more gas and tech straight to Mutas while trying to go for early hive.

The main and natural will be good enough source of minerals, it's the gas that's important.

I've done this build many times before (except the 17Hatch is inbase, not a second expansion) and it's been able to stop both 2rax and 4gates easily on even small maps like steps of war. However, on a map like terminus is when the build can really shine in that you can literally get 3 bases immediately.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
Stratchka
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria165 Posts
February 25 2011 10:51 GMT
#1166
Gogo SlayerSAlicia!!!
StarTale 화이팅!!!
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
February 25 2011 10:51 GMT
#1167
Early double expand terran is just soo scary. Zerg needs an early 4th to keep up, but the 4th is hard to take on Terminus before you get the creep going + a lot of mutas.
Cheeseball
Profile Joined February 2009
Australia208 Posts
February 25 2011 10:51 GMT
#1168
pressident
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
February 25 2011 10:51 GMT
#1169
On February 25 2011 19:51 Ghorgh wrote:
Who is the 'pressident'? Missed that.


Junwi
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
February 25 2011 10:51 GMT
#1170
On February 25 2011 19:48 Rampager wrote:
John is a good interviewer, I agree it's a lot better this way and should be kept this way!


Yeah if there's one thing that Artosis hasn't improved upon it's his interviewing, and Junkka is quite good at it.
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
February 25 2011 10:51 GMT
#1171
On February 25 2011 19:49 ZeraToss wrote:
sry to say that, but i dont want to see junwi vs alicia, because i want to see SQUIRTLE NOW

Alicia knocked out ST_Bomber from code A, so he must be pretty strong, also, wasn't Jjun from team SlayerS?
Clare
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States372 Posts
February 25 2011 10:52 GMT
#1172
On February 25 2011 19:51 Ghorgh wrote:
Who is the 'pressident'? Missed that.

Junwi is the president of the player's committee.
The dashboard melted but we still had the radio.
methematics
Profile Joined August 2010
United States392 Posts
February 25 2011 10:52 GMT
#1173
On February 25 2011 19:38 bronzeterran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 19:36 Adonisto wrote:
Hahaha, the Terran is building 3 command center outside Moonglade natural. Big diss.


zerg should have taken every gas on the map, built as many hatches as he could, walked out of his booth, and pressed his dick against the glass of the terran's booth until all his buildings went down.

i loled so hard
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51447 Posts
February 25 2011 10:52 GMT
#1174
did the sf guy say 'junny'?
Commentator
bronzeterran
Profile Joined September 2010
United States296 Posts
February 25 2011 10:52 GMT
#1175
Her mispronunciations are not without precedent
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
February 25 2011 10:52 GMT
#1176
On February 25 2011 19:48 teamsolid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 19:45 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On February 25 2011 19:41 teamsolid wrote:
On February 25 2011 19:38 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On February 25 2011 19:37 BrahCJ wrote:
:'(

That is how you play terran..... These large large maps have certainly changed the terran mind set, and on 3 bases, what the fuck can you do??




not get "killed" by some blueflame hellions. evrything snowballed from that. cause of that he couldnt properly defend the first big push so he lost 2 hatches/expansions. at that point it was over.

Actually... Moonglade defended the blue-flame hellions pretty much perfectly, considering what his opening was (speedling/banes). The multi-pronged push is actually incredibly hard to defend if the Terran actually has good macro, which JJun did. I wouldn't say Moonglade played poorly at all, it just looks like it from an observer's perspective.


Moonglade may have lost minimal drones, but they were kept away from mining for a long period of time meanwhile Jjun expands behind his Hellion harass and gets up his 3rd. Moonglade's 3rd was late and unsaturated for a bit. That snowballed into what we just saw unfortunately. Perhaps instead of banelings, Moonglade should've gone for Roaches.

Indeed, roaches would've been the better choice, but you can only say that in hindsight. If JJun had instead gone for a stim timing push, roach opening is pretty much auto-loss. I think that's why almost every Z opens up with ling/baneling if they're unable to scout the T tech path. Roach opening is only safe if you actually scout the factory going up.

Losing mining time is also waaaay better than actually losing the drones, which would've happened had he not run the drones away.


Agreed on all points. Just pretty much detailing how everything just snowballed from that harass on forward. Everything was just slower for Moonglade while Jjun's bases remained untouched and unhindered the whole time. Oh well.
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
February 25 2011 10:52 GMT
#1177
Dunno how you beat a solid 3 basing terran at all as zerg. I just see zerg after zerg just dying to 3 base terran. Idra against Jinro recently (6 zerg bases to 3) even... Especially on those big maps where terran insta-3base.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
February 25 2011 10:52 GMT
#1178
On February 25 2011 19:52 GTR wrote:
did the sf guy say 'junny'?


he said I am Johnny
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 25 2011 10:52 GMT
#1179
On February 25 2011 19:49 dtz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 19:46 Parnage wrote:
Jun so polite about saying he practices hard vesus moonglade and treated him like a top korean zerg. Trying to play down the BM CC's?


I think he studied moonglade's style hard. Like it's so easy to get ahold of replays and vods of people without a team.

If you see Jinro's interview, you can see how he played on a smurf account. And met Rainbow who he said were probably being played by someone else cause he was doing a different build, and that Gon plays multiple games on that account afterwards to erase all traces of build orders.

You can see the extent to which people hunt and study others' games. Not doing that will leave you with very very small chance of doing well. Xeph also repeatedly beg the viewers not to record his stream.

Probably the main reason why IdrA left also was because he can't practice these new maps well enough cause he has not enough practice partners.


I think he just kind of felt bad about it after he did it was trying to sound like he worked perhaps harder then he actually did. No offense to Moonglade of course. I agree the replay issue is annoying but it ad's a level of mindgames and trickery to it. If anything smurfing should be abit easier but of course nearly/all pro's already have at least one alternate account for the purpose of such I am sure.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
fUddO
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada197 Posts
February 25 2011 10:52 GMT
#1180
I hope that Kelly has enough Pokemon knowledge to take over on the Squirtle jokes. Tasteless was simply hopeless.
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