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http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstl1/news/60930
Me, I think Squirtle takes it.
Group A has Loner, HuK, Ace and Leenock. Tough to call there, but HuK can do it with luck. (and feedback)
I think Squirtle owns Group B, but Rain, Maka and MoonGlade are in that group as well.
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Poll: Who has the toughest road to Code S ?LiquidRet (62) 65% LiquidHayprO (16) 17% LiquidHuk (5) 5% LonerPrime.We (4) 4% mOOnGLaDe (3) 3% oGs.Cezanne (3) 3% LeenockfOu (2) 2% MakaPrime.We (1) 1% 96 total votes Your vote: Who has the toughest road to Code S ? (Vote): LiquidRet (Vote): LiquidHayprO (Vote): LiquidHuk (Vote): mOOnGLaDe (Vote): LeenockfOu (Vote): LonerPrime.We (Vote): MakaPrime.We (Vote): oGs.Cezanne
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a link and 1 sentence isn't good enough for a new thread... at least give some reason about your thoughts about Squirtle
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I'd be sad for HuK if he gets into Final and faces Squirtle in PvP >.<
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On February 15 2011 10:51 awu25 wrote: a link and 1 sentence isn't good enough for a new thread... at least give some reason about your thoughts about Squirtle
Well, if you watched any of the GSTL, and saw Squirtle take down MVP, you would know what I mean. He also All-Killed in the first round. The dude is one sick Protoss.
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i want to disagree but i cant.. lol
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I don't know about that. Squirtle is in the same group as TSL_Alive, Sangho, and Ret. I think the winner of that group could be a good position to win the whole code A tournament, but I honestly think that picking a winner from that side of the bracket is not so clear cut since Squirtle showed that his forte was PvT, which covers Alive but Sangho and Ret present obstacles in his non-dominant matchups.
What are your thoughts for the rest of the bracket?
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On February 15 2011 10:51 LesPhoques wrote: I'd be sad for HuK if he gets into Final and faces Squirtle in PvP >.< but what a epic final that would be!
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On February 15 2011 10:53 PukinDog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 10:51 awu25 wrote: a link and 1 sentence isn't good enough for a new thread... at least give some reason about your thoughts about Squirtle Well, if you watched any of the GSTL, and saw Squirtle take down MVP, you would know what I mean. He also All-Killed in the first round. The dude is one sick Protoss. i was trying to help you out before your thread got closed i know squirtle is good but your OP needs more content
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On February 15 2011 10:53 PukinDog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 10:51 awu25 wrote: a link and 1 sentence isn't good enough for a new thread... at least give some reason about your thoughts about Squirtle Well, if you watched any of the GSTL, and saw Squirtle take down MVP, you would know what I mean. He also All-Killed in the first round. The dude is one sick Protoss.
I think it depends on the map, see how well he did on Terminus but how awful he did on Xel naga against nestea? He tried to abuse map distance against MVP and it worked, he couldn't do that on Xel naga, which is why his chance of success, I don't think, is as high as most people might think. He's a good player but I dunno, coulda been a fluke I mean fOu has never impressed me ever and he did beat MVP but like I said, big map does well, xelnaga, does awful.
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Mr. Loranger? Yes. Mr. Loranger.
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On February 15 2011 10:53 MagnusHyperion wrote: I don't know about that. Squirtle is in the same group as TSL_Alive, Sangho, and Ret. I think the winner of that group could be a good position to win the whole code A tournament, but I honestly think that picking a winner from that side of the bracket is not so clear cut since Squirtle showed that his forte was PvT, which covers Alive but Sangho and Ret present obstacles in his non-dominant matchups.
What are your thoughts for the rest of the bracket?
Well, HuK has to get past either Loner or Losira. Tough going either way, but possible. Then its either Ace or Leenock in that group. Go HuK.
Group B?
Nobody touches Squirtle, that's just my opinion.
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I think HuK has a good chance. Top 8 play in up and down matches again? How does this one work?
Unfortunately I don't think Ret will make it very far. If he wins his first round he'll have to play TSL_Killer aka Sangho, most probably. Sangho is beastly.
Haypro looks like he has a route to the RO8 fairly easily.
We'll probably be looking at an ST_Ace vs LeenockfOu match in the RO16, unfortunately. Both players are really good and I wanted to see them get far.
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On February 15 2011 10:54 awu25 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 10:53 PukinDog wrote:On February 15 2011 10:51 awu25 wrote: a link and 1 sentence isn't good enough for a new thread... at least give some reason about your thoughts about Squirtle Well, if you watched any of the GSTL, and saw Squirtle take down MVP, you would know what I mean. He also All-Killed in the first round. The dude is one sick Protoss. i was trying to help you out before your thread got closed i know squirtle is good but your OP needs more content
Thank you, I appreciate that, I just wanted everyone to know the bracket was up. I'll add some content.
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code a honestly looks pretty hard, cant really say cod a is a joke this season. Half of these players could be code s
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I like HuK's odds of making it with those brackets. GOGO HUK!!!!!!!!
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The bottom half of group B is ridiculous. i could see any of them winning it besides supernova and jookto.
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Code A is going to be much better and far more brutal than last time. To the point, don't be surprised if MakaPrime goes down in the first round. Since they just got 12 brand new players in Code A, the "sorting" process is going pretty quickly. All of them are really good. Code S is going to remain for those that are more consistent in Individual play. But, either way, should be MUCH better than last Ro32 & on for Code A. Most of Ro32 was sad (was really bummed that Ret got like the only hard Ro32 opponent last time).
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Huk has an awesome PvT and PvZ so i bet he can make it at least to the top 8 and get a try for code S <3<3
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hope that huk prove his strenght.. i like his playstyle but everytime he could win something or show the world is power he doesnt get it done
HUK FIGHTING
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Well I'm kind of happy to see that the 4 foreigners wouldn't meet until at least ro4 (each are in a half)
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Go HuK, Haypro and Ret!
...oh and Moonglade!
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Huk has an ok bracket to ro8, no one too strong nut none are pushovers either.
Haypro can get to ro8 IF he beats Ganzi, and if all the hype is to be believed, it will be very hard. Moon and virus dont look that scary. (unless Moon improved a lot since last season, which is very possible considering his talent.
Ret...err...ouch...his route to ro8 is very very difficult, but if he gets through, then that will be proof enough that he is code S material.
Moonglade, i think has the highest chance of getting to ro8, rain hasnt look good for a long time and i dont know much about his other opponents.
These are my opinion which usually means they are very prone to mistake, im not omniscient lol.
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I think ret has the hardest bracket. If he makes it through, it'll certainly be one hell of an accomplishment.
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I sense Moonglade as the dark horse here... he is extremely good at handling cheese.
Overall, this is a very very hard pool of players. It is anyone's!
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On February 15 2011 10:47 PukinDog wrote:http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstl1/news/60930Me, I think Squirtle takes it. Group A has Loner, HuK, Ace and Leenock. Tough to call there, but HuK can do it with luck. (and feedback) I think Squirtle owns Group B, but Rain, Maka and MoonGlade are in that group as well. Check it out.
You overlook the fact that Group A has IMLosira.
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I totally want to see Ret vs Squirtle and see Huk take his group i also had to lol a bit when i saw SlayerS_yugioh
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Jjobsu vs. Ret 1st round arghhhh
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On February 15 2011 11:45 Spectorials wrote: I sense Moonglade as the dark horse here... he is extremely good at handling cheese.
Overall, this is a very very hard pool of players. It is anyone's! Moonglade has Sakura/Destination/Hyejun first. So brutal! Code A this time and Code A from January is like night and day; every player seems so good.
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I think the ro8 will be: Losira vs Huk Moon (i think he'll have improved) vs Leenock Rain vs Maka (don't think moonglade has what it takes) Squirtle vs Ret
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I feel like this going to be dominated by protoss. Squirtle is looking so potent, and Killer I think is going to break out. That being said, I could easily see Maka or Leenock getting their game back and winning it all
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On February 15 2011 12:04 1Eris1 wrote: I feel like this going to be dominated by protoss. Squirtle is looking so potent, and Killer I think is going to break out. That being said, I could easily see Maka or Leenock getting their game back and winning it all I 100% agree not only are there some great protoss in code a, these new maps look very good for protoss in pvt, but hopefully this does not result in too many pvps.
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will the new Code A casters take effect for this season?
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oh no! poor ret what a horrible draw. jjobsu and sangho on his side of the bracket.
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I'm pissed.
Leenock is playing Yugioh in the first set. They're both amazing Code S quality players. Yugioh is probably going to knock out leenock in what will look to be an upset even though it really isn't. You heard it here first.
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wow Squirtle has a rough road to travel through a lot of loaded players in the bottom Bracket of Group B.
whatevre man cheer for the Liquids.. Ret / Haypro / HuK FTW !!!!
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I'm not sold on Squirtle at this point. Huge fan but one win against MVP and a 4-0 against a fOu team which doesn't look like the same team from a GSL or 2 ago, i'm not convinced. He's clearly very very good, but i don't see him dominating like popular opinion would dictate.
Would dearly love to eat my words.
gogo ggoboogie!
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On February 15 2011 12:38 Vorlik wrote: I'm pissed.
Leenock is playing Yugioh in the first set. They're both amazing Code S quality players. Yugioh is probably going to knock out leenock in what will look to be an upset even though it really isn't. You heard it here first.
lol what?
there are like 15 better players than yugioh in those brackets
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oh god i need to see some squirtle action
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On February 15 2011 12:49 kirbynator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 12:38 Vorlik wrote: I'm pissed.
Leenock is playing Yugioh in the first set. They're both amazing Code S quality players. Yugioh is probably going to knock out leenock in what will look to be an upset even though it really isn't. You heard it here first. lol what? there are like 15 better players than yugioh in those brackets Not in my opinion. NewDawn & Leenock are both Code S quality, and it's sad to see them paired up. I agree, I think NewDawn will take it.
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Squirtles good matchup is PvT. All the games he won in GSTL were PvT. Ive seen Huk beat MC on his stream several times and im sure hes faced squirtle on the ladder too. I'm not sure if he can win code A but I definitely wouldnt make any bets against him either. He's self proclaimed Top 3 in the world in unit control and i wanna see what he can do
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I'm Australian, so very biased, however I like mOOnGLaDe ringer to top 8 here. Purely because I like his ZvT. That's my brain talking - minimal top 8. However, my heart says he can get to the final :D
We're all waiting for HuK to back up what he says. We all know he is a force on KR ladder, but it's getting frustrating to expect him to win an entire tourney, only to under achieve. From all the foreigners, I think Henie thenmost capable, but being capable isn't enough in these type of tourneys.
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Slayers_Jjob is my pick to win Code A. sorry ret but this guy is really impressive
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CODE A actually looks decent this season. code a last season was so bad
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On February 15 2011 10:54 iseefor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 10:51 LesPhoques wrote: I'd be sad for HuK if he gets into Final and faces Squirtle in PvP >.< but what a epic final that would be! I think it would be more along the lines of squirtle grinding HuK into a bloody paste with a 4-0 victory.
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SlayerS_YUGIOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FIGHTING
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Why does it feel like I am more excited to watch this season's Code A groups than the Code S groups? After watching a great deal of these players tear it up in the team league the past few months, I am dying to see how they do in the solo competition stages of GSL. Sure I want to see a few people in Code S play, but Code A looks like it is anybody's game. Half of the participants can honestly be considered for having a good chance at winning it.
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If I'm reading this right Ret is against Job straight up. Should be epic.
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Hope ret makes it to the top 8 :D
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Kinda disappointing to see SlayerS_YuGiOh be up against LeenockfOu so early in the tournament. Both are strong players with a very strong chance of making it far in the tournament, though one of them will have to be knocked out of Code A in the first round. Leenock is definitely Code S material, though it's sad to see the possibility of him falling out of Code A after dropping from Code S. YuGiOh has an awesome name and has produced some good games, and I really want to hear Tastosis crack more YuGiOh jokes.
Other than that, the brackets look relatively straightforward, especially considering that HuK won't have to face anyone too tough until the third round when he might have to face Losira or Loner.
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HuK's chances are pretty good, depending on matchups/maps: I give him a 70/30 chance of hitting top 4 or higher, especially if Loner goes down before him.
Moonglade just has Rain to worry about before RO8: 70/30 on him getting that far - 50/50 vs Maka, 40/60 vs Junwi.
Haypro has Leenock, Virus and Ace to get through: 50/50 vs Virus/Ace, 60/40 vs Leenock.
Ret, we hardly knew ye - Killer, Squirtle and Alive are all solidly above him: even against Jjob 1st round, I can only give him 60/40 odds. 30/70 vs Killer/Alive, 20/80 vs Squirtle.
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Looks like a good set of brackets, nice to see we won't have any liquid team kills until the finals of group A and ret can just take group B by himself :D
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Top 8 predictions Loseira Huk ACE Virus Moonglade Junwi Squirtle Killer
I don't think Haypro and Ret stand a chance in these brackets. I think anyone in moonglades position out of the foreigners would do well, but Ret and Haypro drew some difficult players!!!!
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Hoping for Ret to win but Ggoboogie will probably win.
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On February 15 2011 13:29 pieisamazing wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 10:54 iseefor wrote:On February 15 2011 10:51 LesPhoques wrote: I'd be sad for HuK if he gets into Final and faces Squirtle in PvP >.< but what a epic final that would be! I think it would be more along the lines of squirtle grinding HuK into a bloody paste with a 4-0 victory. your probably right..
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Ret, Job, Leenock, or Loner.
Funny to see people hype Squirtle after watching GSTL.
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I feel like some of you are really overestimating some players here, like Leenock for example. That kid is NOT code S material, honestly. I mean, look, just check him out on TLPD. His last relevant bo3 win was last NOVEMBER. The guy literally got knocked out of Code S by LiveForever, who was even kind enough to GIVE him the first game.
He's not totally awful or anything, and he may well hang around Code A for a bit if he can manage a win against Yugioh(probably not though), but he won't be seeing Code S again, unless he gets dramatically better.
And what's with the Ganzi hype anyways? I have yet to see anything at all out of this guy myself, and as far as I can tell he doesn't even have a team? Has he been tearing up ladder or what? He seems like a total unknown to me. Maybe he'll give Haypro a hard time, but it's hard to see the guy coming out of nowhere and taking the whole thing, imo
ANYWAYS, I'll throw out my predictions for the top 8, just for fun:
Loner vs. HuK Moon vs. Ace Moonglade vs. Maka Squirtle vs. ... this is the hardest corner of the bracket to call, actually, but I'm gonna say Jjob. Sorry Ret!
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On February 15 2011 12:49 kirbynator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 12:38 Vorlik wrote: I'm pissed.
Leenock is playing Yugioh in the first set. They're both amazing Code S quality players. Yugioh is probably going to knock out leenock in what will look to be an upset even though it really isn't. You heard it here first. lol what? there are like 15 better players than yugioh in those brackets
Don't be ignorant, half of those are new players which we know little about. Yugioh all-killed his way into code A qualifiers, and also destroyed rainbow and julyzerg. Those are bigger accomplishments than most in Code A. Also, if you look at the ELO's he's the 3rd highest ranked zerg. He's very under the radar IMO, but Tasteless sees his potential(artosis not so much).
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Ohhh crap. Jjob is facing ret in the first match? Damn, I need to change my fantasy league picks. Picked both of them...
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God rets draw sucks the bottom of group B is rediculous. I'd say rd8 is Loner Huk Ganzi/Haypro(honestly haven't seen haypro play enough to say) Ace moonglade Junwi Squirtle job
squirtle plays huk in the final
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ro8 LiquidHuk vs IMlosira FoXMoon vs ST_Ace TSL_Rain vs SlayerSAlicia ST_Squirtle vs LiquidRet.
From there i'd give Squirtle the favorite. Also think Moon, Huk, or Ret could win it as well.
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Would really like to see Coca win so he can have a computer to practice on but Ace is pretty good... Too much ZvT in the RO32 really. Only 1 ZvZ and 2 ZvP 6 ZvTs. Hopefully Moonglade can take out 2 Terrans, he'll take out Yeah if Yeah beats Rain 'cause his ZvZ is too good.
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On February 15 2011 10:47 PukinDog wrote:http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstl1/news/60930Me, I think Squirtle takes it. Group A has Loner, HuK, Ace and Leenock. Tough to call there, but HuK can do it with luck. (and feedback) I think Squirtle owns Group B, but Rain, Maka and MoonGlade are in that group as well. Check it out. huk doesn't need luck xd. he is actually amazing. =D
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Wheres the Ret lovin...He got this ezpz. Top 8 gets up & down matches right?
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Lots of good players in Code A. I feel like half of them could easily b code s. Hope to see foreigners advance
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I really hope the foreigner players pull through. We all know how much potential they have, but I never see them pull through when it matters. Of course I'll hope I'm wrong.
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nice groups 
so I guess the top 4 must be LiquidHuk, LiquidHaypro, Moonglade and LiquidRet :D
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On February 15 2011 16:05 Firereaver wrote: Wheres the Ret lovin...He got this ezpz. Top 8 gets up & down matches right?
Well, he has been in code a for some time and not really done anything? I hope he shows how good he is this time but can't expect too much given his record so far tbh.
[B]Lots of good players in Code A. I feel like half of them could easily b code s. Hope to see foreigners advance
I reckon if Code A and Code S faced off... Code A would win (per capita anyway). I mean, sure, no one in Code A has much chance against MVP or MC or NesTea (probably the 3 best players in SC2 atm) but match them all up and Code A will end up with more wins. Mainly because their Up/Down system is far too slow.
P.S. Squirtle overrated. Probably goes down to SuperNova is my bet. SuperNova is a boss.
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gogo Ret! Make it to code S.
Squirtle v Ret make it happen, and then crush him with the perfect reactive plays I see in the coaching sessions with MrBitter.
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Getting the visualization and looking at my fantasy team is frustrating me. Looking at the top half of A, I only have 1 pick (losira) and while I know I could potentially earn miore pints by picking 2 for each half of each group, I just feel like my picks are safer bets for the later rounds. I feel confident either Squirtle or Cezanne are going to go far, but unfortunately they meet second round so one person is going to get knocked out while hopefully the other gets me a lot of points after that. Should be a good season.
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I think moonglade can make it to the Ro8 (Rain and Maka don't really pose a threat in my eyes) I'm not so sure of our Liquid guys, although I hope they will.
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So wait, basically we can't see both Squirtle and Ret make Code S?
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After watching GSL TL I have serious respect for every Korean out there.
I hope Haypro makes it into r16 but I don't give him more than 50% for his first match. I hope Ret makes it into r8 but I don't give him more than 50% to win twice. I hope Huk vs Squirtle for a PvP finals but at least I give HuK a good chance to make it into r8.
But those Koreans, they are str0ng.
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On February 15 2011 19:08 borny wrote: So wait, basically we can't see both Squirtle and Ret make Code S?
What? They can both make Code S. So long as they both make RO8.
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I think the top4 favorites for taking this are Squirtle, Ret, Huk and leenock. But i really hope for Loner and Moon doing well
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Torch lost his final qualification match...
Am going with,
Losira Huk Moon Ace Moonglade Maka SuperNova (or Cezanne) Ret (or Killer)
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its probably posted in this thread already but it has been noted HuK's worst matchup is PvP. him being knocked out of assembly by socke only a few days ago, I think if it came to crunch squirtle v huk it would be one sided.
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I've seen HuK own at PvP but when I think about it, HuK is 'the force field guy' and tends to own bio balls and roach-hydra play with his sentries so, idno, it probably is his worst match up but i don't think you could even call it a 'bad' matchup. Just his play style favours his play against the other 2 races.
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poor moonglade, tough group.
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On February 15 2011 20:14 Masq wrote: poor moonglade, tough group.
Really? I don't really know the players there so if you know much about them could you let us know how you think it'll turn out? I know Rain but he hasn't been playing well, but he has been making the RO8 each time. So yeah?
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One fast question. When the GSL is starting ?
e; NVM i found it, 21st feb. e2; And i think in next GSL we will see HUK in Code S !
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On February 15 2011 20:14 Masq wrote: poor moonglade, tough group.
Really? compared to the other groups, I thought he had it easier.
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On February 15 2011 17:04 jjmmtt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 16:05 Firereaver wrote: Wheres the Ret lovin...He got this ezpz. Top 8 gets up & down matches right? Well, he has been in code a for some time and not really done anything? I hope he shows how good he is this time but can't expect too much given his record so far tbh.
Huh. He played one match and lost against oGs Captain. Recently he won Assembly. Outside of that he hasn't actually participated. So what exactly was he meant to do for all the time he "was in code a".
Anyway I think moonglade has a decent shot. Huk too. Ret I'm hoping to pull through but it's always tough.
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How many of these players qualify for the up and down matches?
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On February 15 2011 21:17 MapleLeafSirup wrote: How many of these players qualify for the up and down matches?
Top 8. Basically you have to win 2 games and you will get 2 chances to get Code S.
If you reach the finals of the Code A tournament you can pick your opponents from Code S. (One who ended 4th in his group and one who ended 3trh.)
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Man, I went back and forth trying to pick my final 8... and all I really came up with is that Code A has really strengthened so much, so fast!
I think it's gonna be more about cheering on favorites, rather than predict outcomes. So many are too close to call... which is a great thing! (Losira or Huk is what I'm thinkin' tho)
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Ret vs Sangho so early :CCCCC well if all goes well
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Looks to me like Huk has the easiest path to the the up&down matches, it'd be a bit disappointing if he failed to get that far.
Poor Ret got a bit of a brutal draw, Jjob & SangHo T_T
Moonglades and Haypro's are both tough, but not unmanageable
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So I take it the Top 8 here get a shot at Code S and stay in Code A even if they lose the up&down matches. Then what? Top 9-16 stay in Code A, and Top 17-32 go down to Code B? Is this correct?
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I must say I'm equally excited for Code A as I'm for Code S this season. I can see Ret, HuK, Moonglade advancing (staying in Code A at least). Hayder defiantly drew the short stick from the foreigners competing in Code A. Nothing is certain but he will be a f'cking hero if he knocks out GanZi.
Foreigners HWAITING
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Cmon Huk!! You can do this. I am really excited for this season.
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On February 15 2011 21:28 Scorch wrote: So I take it the Top 8 here get a shot at Code S and stay in Code A even if they lose the up&down matches. Then what? Top 9-16 stay in Code A, and Top 17-32 go down to Code B? Is this correct?
I believe that they have to re-qualify but are probably given priority to play in the 'round robin'-esque style qualification which has the 200 players looking to be Code A next GSL.
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On February 15 2011 22:54 jjmmtt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 21:28 Scorch wrote: So I take it the Top 8 here get a shot at Code S and stay in Code A even if they lose the up&down matches. Then what? Top 9-16 stay in Code A, and Top 17-32 go down to Code B? Is this correct? I believe that they have to re-qualify but are probably given priority to play in the 'round robin'-esque style qualification which has the 200 players looking to be Code A next GSL.
Are they doing the code A qualifiers differently next time around? Something other than a single-elimination bracket?
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Losira, HuK, Moon, Ace, Rain, Junwi, Squirtle, Ret (i hope but he has the toughest route) CodeA looks pretty stacked i only miss bomber he would deserve codeS but i guess it's good for our foreigner guys that he isn't in this season.^^
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On February 15 2011 23:06 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 22:54 jjmmtt wrote:On February 15 2011 21:28 Scorch wrote: So I take it the Top 8 here get a shot at Code S and stay in Code A even if they lose the up&down matches. Then what? Top 9-16 stay in Code A, and Top 17-32 go down to Code B? Is this correct? I believe that they have to re-qualify but are probably given priority to play in the 'round robin'-esque style qualification which has the 200 players looking to be Code A next GSL. Are they doing the code A qualifiers differently next time around? Something other than a single-elimination bracket?
No idea, sorry, they probably should if they really want to be the GLOBAL SC League. At least BO2.
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Although BO2 with 200 people would take some time, so maybe not.
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WAO so many foreigners makes me happy. and also every liquid guy who ever had something to do with GSL is back...except TLO whos busy owning europe. GSL looks more promising evertime =)=)
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huk is pretty much the only white guy in there who has a chance. It should be fun
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On February 15 2011 10:57 wherebugsgo wrote: I think HuK has a good chance. Top 8 play in up and down matches again? How does this one work?
Unfortunately I don't think Ret will make it very far. If he wins his first round he'll have to play TSL_Killer aka Sangho, most probably. Sangho is beastly.
Haypro looks like he has a route to the RO8 fairly easily.
We'll probably be looking at an ST_Ace vs LeenockfOu match in the RO16, unfortunately. Both players are really good and I wanted to see them get far. Say what? He probably has the hardest first match of anyone 
He can still do it, but he doesnt have an easy path, Ganzi is a beast!
On February 15 2011 11:08 CptGrackSparrow wrote: The bottom half of group B is ridiculous. i could see any of them winning it besides supernova and jookto. Shouldnt underestimate either of them. Supernova is pretty beastly.
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On February 15 2011 23:59 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 10:57 wherebugsgo wrote: I think HuK has a good chance. Top 8 play in up and down matches again? How does this one work?
Unfortunately I don't think Ret will make it very far. If he wins his first round he'll have to play TSL_Killer aka Sangho, most probably. Sangho is beastly.
Haypro looks like he has a route to the RO8 fairly easily.
We'll probably be looking at an ST_Ace vs LeenockfOu match in the RO16, unfortunately. Both players are really good and I wanted to see them get far. Say what? He probably has the hardest first match of anyone  He can still do it, but he doesnt have an easy path, Ganzi is a beast! Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 11:08 CptGrackSparrow wrote: The bottom half of group B is ridiculous. i could see any of them winning it besides supernova and jookto. Shouldnt underestimate either of them. Supernova is pretty beastly.
How good do you think Haypro's chances are? Has he improved as much as you and Ret have in Korea?
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this season code A looks faaaaaaaaar better and tougher then the last one. Sad to see no Seed/YongHWA here, really like this IM warriors of Ayur
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On February 15 2011 23:59 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 10:57 wherebugsgo wrote: I think HuK has a good chance. Top 8 play in up and down matches again? How does this one work?
Unfortunately I don't think Ret will make it very far. If he wins his first round he'll have to play TSL_Killer aka Sangho, most probably. Sangho is beastly.
Haypro looks like he has a route to the RO8 fairly easily.
We'll probably be looking at an ST_Ace vs LeenockfOu match in the RO16, unfortunately. Both players are really good and I wanted to see them get far. Say what? He probably has the hardest first match of anyone  He can still do it, but he doesnt have an easy path, Ganzi is a beast! Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 11:08 CptGrackSparrow wrote: The bottom half of group B is ridiculous. i could see any of them winning it besides supernova and jookto. Shouldnt underestimate either of them. Supernova is pretty beastly.
I just personally don't think Supernova has a shot against Squirtle based off what I've seen of them both. If he could somehow win the 1st round matchup he's definately got a shot. Admittedly all I've seen of Supernova are games of him against others in streams (vs. idra, mvp, etc.).
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Poll: Who has the toughest road to Code S ?LiquidRet (62) 65% LiquidHayprO (16) 17% LiquidHuk (5) 5% LonerPrime.We (4) 4% mOOnGLaDe (3) 3% oGs.Cezanne (3) 3% LeenockfOu (2) 2% MakaPrime.We (1) 1% 96 total votes Your vote: Who has the toughest road to Code S ? (Vote): LiquidRet (Vote): LiquidHayprO (Vote): LiquidHuk (Vote): mOOnGLaDe (Vote): LeenockfOu (Vote): LonerPrime.We (Vote): MakaPrime.We (Vote): oGs.Cezanne
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That Supernova/Squirtle/Alive/Cezanne-bracket is _pretty_ sick.
I predict Losira/HuK/Moon/Ace/Hyejun/Alicia/Squirtle/Ret = top 8.
Ret got a pretty tough bracket though and Moon will probably lose to Ganzi but I'm a fanboy since like 2004, so...
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On February 15 2011 23:34 jjmmtt wrote: Although BO2 with 200 people would take some time, so maybe not.
WTF is a Bo2? 2 games and if it's a draw (1 all) then they determine the winner based on coin toss?
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my predictions - i would change some around based on maps though (i.e. i give the win to Ret if its favorable maps for Z)
![[image loading]](http://i53.tinypic.com/ab55wl.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i54.tinypic.com/1z14iaa.jpg)
finals:
ST_Squirtle over IM_Lorisa
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All the brackets are going to be tough, but Ret's Bracket looks the toughest.
ZvZ is a flip of the coin, and I think Ret's ZvZ is solid. But, he has Squirtle, Alive, Killer, and Supernova as his non-Z opponents, wow.
Then again, don't think HuK has an easy path either. Loner and IMLosirA are FEARSOME opponents. LegalMind and Butterfly effect will get crushed easy, I don't know much about Posh or Curious, but I know StarTale is a team of serious badasses.
Haypro has LOTs of Zergs in his bracket, and then Ace, who is really, really good.
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Ret is really stuck between a rock and a hard place just getting to top 8 he has to beat two guys capable of winning it all in TSL_Killer and SlayerS_JJob
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You need to look at who they can realistically face, not just everyone on their side of the bracket. Like it is impossible for ret to face both Supernova and Squirtle. So really we should compare who each is likely to face. (Also, don't the top 8 qualify for up/down matches, so isn't winning two matches really your goal?) Lets look at the first 3 probable opponents just for simplicity.
Ret :
CchapSeungeu Killer Squirtle or Supernova or Alive
Huk :
Curious ButterflyEffect (most likely imo) Loner (or Lasira)
Haypro :
Ganzi Moon Leenock or Ace
I dunno, Ret's still looks a little harder to me, but it's not like he has to play everyone on his side of the bracket.
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wtf
why do the brackets on the first page have results??
EDIT: The image on the topic confused me on first glance, and made me think the Code A matches were played *silly me*
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So many good players!
ret, Haypro and Loner definitely look fucked to me. 
Here's hoping ret can ride his win at Assembly all the way to Code S. God knows he doesn't have any luck with the GSL brackets.
Moonglade and huk's route to Code S looks doable. C'mon guys! Just two Bo3 wins and you got this! Anything after the Top 8 is just fluff as far as I'm concerned. The Code A money is so piddly in comparison, only getting into the up and down matches really counts.
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if haypro can make it past ganzi he will have a good shot
ganzi is fucking gosu
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PLEASE post the original brackets and your predictions below
I was confused for a whole minute before I noticed that you put your predictions instead of the actual brackets.
and i really see no way for ret to make it out of group B, he's facing alot of playes from top clans so you can expect them to be on top of their abusive BOs, and for a Zerg to make it past this plethora of cheese and all-ins you have to be a super-star.
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On February 16 2011 01:30 ZeroCartin wrote: wtf
why do the brackets on the first page have results??
EDIT: The image on the topic confused me on first glance, and made me think the Code A matches were played *silly me* the brackets are filled because ppl were screaming "too little content, not worth a topic" when the brackets still were empty. easy as that.
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So many Zergs lol I'm rooting for Ret!
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On February 16 2011 02:52 ChickenLips wrote: PLEASE post the original brackets and your predictions below
I was confused for a whole minute before I noticed that you put your predictions instead of the actual brackets.
and i really see no way for ret to make it out of group B, he's facing alot of playes from top clans so you can expect them to be on top of their abusive BOs, and for a Zerg to make it past this plethora of cheese and all-ins you have to be a super-star.
Done.
Agreed on Ret. Bad news, but after his victory, maybe he is primed like Jinro was after MLG?
Go Ret!
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With everyone hyping up ganzi like the next GSL champion in the making, can anyone direct me to some casts of noteworthy games of his? I kinda want to check him out now. :D Thanks in advance.
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Squirtle has never been that strong so far in GSL... except for recently in GSTL... not the same hype, stress, we'll see what happens :D
I think HuK has improved a lot, him, Ret, Junwi, LosirA and Glade should be at the top
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everyone saying huk has it easy ST_curious is is sitting on the top ten of the korean ladder atm.
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Feels like everyone is underestimating haypro, would be lovely if he would just take everyone by storm and make it to the code S instantly.
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Russian Federation89 Posts
Rooting for the foreigners. All of them equally
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On February 15 2011 23:59 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 10:57 wherebugsgo wrote: I think HuK has a good chance. Top 8 play in up and down matches again? How does this one work?
Unfortunately I don't think Ret will make it very far. If he wins his first round he'll have to play TSL_Killer aka Sangho, most probably. Sangho is beastly.
Haypro looks like he has a route to the RO8 fairly easily.
We'll probably be looking at an ST_Ace vs LeenockfOu match in the RO16, unfortunately. Both players are really good and I wanted to see them get far. Say what? He probably has the hardest first match of anyone  He can still do it, but he doesnt have an easy path, Ganzi is a beast! Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 11:08 CptGrackSparrow wrote: The bottom half of group B is ridiculous. i could see any of them winning it besides supernova and jookto. Shouldnt underestimate either of them. Supernova is pretty beastly.
There you have it folks. Everyone is beastly. Should rename to Code (B)eastttttttttttttttlyyyyyy.
HuK I think definitely has the best chance via brackets to RO8. You have to win twice. He has to beat Curious, and probably Butterfly. Doable.
Haypro has to beat GanZi, if so I'm hoping to see a ZvZ vs Moon in the next round. I love Moon.. so.. let's hope Hayder takes down Ganzi for glory, but falls to the sexy Spirit_Moon ^^ (Wait I mean he wins! Amidoinitrite?)
Moonglade's Group looks not all that difficult. Hyejun then most likely Rain. That's two ZvT's to prepare against, lucky him. He's always been a great W3 Player, lets see if he can rise to the occasion here. He might even see Maka on the right hand side for the finals.
Ret can easily crush Jbobjob or w/e , most overrated player in the history of rated players. IdrA personally told me he's a newb. Next round though, that's a toughy. ZvZ coinflip or Vs Killer.
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glade had good form in wc3 in big matches: i wouldn't be surprised if he rolled into code S quite easily.
unfortunately, i also wouldn't be surprised if he struck a horrendous string of bad luck, like drawing close positions and getting bunker rushed two maps in a row or something absurd like that. hoping he can pull through though.
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Can someone tell me more about Ganzi? I don't know anything about him.
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Loner? beating Huk and Losira? .....
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On February 16 2011 13:33 Vorlik wrote: Can someone tell me more about Ganzi? I don't know anything about him.
Hes on Team IM. that should give you some perspective.
Edit: or at least he was at one point.
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rain sucks he goin to lose! I want HayprO to win! and YugiOh obviously gonna beat Leenock ZvZ is leenocks worst matchup
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hows jjobb most overrated ever?
you saw him play like once and dominate and now hes the most overrated? O_o
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