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Quesa
Profile Joined November 2010
United States304 Posts
February 10 2011 23:11 GMT
#3121
On February 11 2011 07:56 Alizee- wrote:Yeah I have to think you're incredibly right. I just don't think the maps are suited properly. It shouldn't be oh I got too far onto creep, I lost..3 stalkers...and now I lose because the zerg can spam units out?


He didn't lose just because he lost three units, he lost because he built a stargate, robo fact, robo bay and expo that wasn't mined from. He was aggressive, teching and expanding simultaneously on a small map. How is "Well obviously no small maps should be played" a sane response?
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
February 10 2011 23:12 GMT
#3122
Just watched the finals. Holy fuck, best sc2 i have ever watched, by far. by fucking far. Epic epic games, its a great time to love starcraft.
White-Ra fighting!
ThisIsJimmy
Profile Joined July 2004
United States546 Posts
February 10 2011 23:14 GMT
#3123
On February 11 2011 05:51 Jayrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 05:44 ThisIsJimmy wrote:
Hmm looks like I am going to pay 5 dollars for these final matches alone. Everyone is hyping it so hard it they must have been fantastic games

Ya haha plus 99% of the games include at least one terran, money well spent.


Excellent point lol
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Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
February 10 2011 23:16 GMT
#3124
tasteless totally stealing a line from dane cook awesome games, i can't wait for next season, as well as the following season of code A
The universe created an audience for itself.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 10 2011 23:19 GMT
#3125
Just finished the series (THANKS Asha!!!!!!!!!) and...

i'm lost for words, everyone(and i do mean everyone) NEEDS to watch the entire series, easily the hightligt of starcraft 2 so far. some matches was like the golden age of BW

wow
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
odder
Profile Joined April 2010
United States405 Posts
February 10 2011 23:25 GMT
#3126
and to think, everyone was disappointed oGs and IM wasn't going to be the finals ST and IM delivered and then some.
Mindflow
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)320 Posts
February 10 2011 23:29 GMT
#3127
what an epic epic series, GSTL = BEST SEASON YET
hagrin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States278 Posts
February 10 2011 23:36 GMT
#3128
This was worth the money just for the Korean BM which was at absurd levels and high comedy.

For those who know more than me, was this the most BM team match up in SC/BW/SC2 history and if not, what series was? I could list all the BM in this series, but it would take a really, really long time haha.
eu.xen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany352 Posts
February 10 2011 23:38 GMT
#3129
Just came around to watch the vods. What an epic end to the gstl. Couldn't have been better. Great pacing, great scores, great games and a dance-bm-off (he danced and got danced back and then it was ON).

Fun throughout. gg
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
February 10 2011 23:38 GMT
#3130
How much cash was this worth?
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
February 10 2011 23:38 GMT
#3131
On February 11 2011 08:38 IPA wrote:
How much cash was this worth?

around 13~14k USD.
tarath
Profile Joined April 2009
United States377 Posts
February 10 2011 23:41 GMT
#3132
omg that final was so fun to watch, srsly if anyone hasn't seen it you are missing out on the best SC2 I've ever seen.

I really like the team league format in general and I definitely hope they do more of it.
TheDefinition
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden41 Posts
February 10 2011 23:41 GMT
#3133
On February 11 2011 07:46 Tianx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 07:44 PartyBiscuit wrote:
On February 11 2011 07:41 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
This was an exciting ending to a brief, but fun filled tournament. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I know the stats are readily available on TLPD, but here's a few charts I whipped up so you can save yourself some time!

[image loading]

Enjoy.

Thanks for this. The only thing I could have wanted more from team league as a whole would more zergs playing. That being said, the finals pretty much saw everything and everyone out there (cept Rainbow lol). Twas sweet.

PvT is the only one with a half-reasonable sample size, and it looks grim for balance.

With these new maps, which are quite different from the current maps, you can't say anything about balance until the game normalizes.

Furthermore, the nature of the tournament is that good players get to play more while bad players are weeded out. This is not the same as a randomly selected set of matches.
Make expand, not war
Rorix
Profile Joined December 2010
357 Posts
February 10 2011 23:42 GMT
#3134
crap...anyway i can watch this on a mac/osx or install gom player in osx? not in a good place right now, no PC/Windows machine :S
roflstomper
AmishNukes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States98 Posts
February 10 2011 23:42 GMT
#3135
winning team received a little less than $9000 US. 10 million won = $8920 US.
RHMVNovus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
February 10 2011 23:44 GMT
#3136
On February 11 2011 07:27 Quesa wrote:
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On February 11 2011 07:09 RHMVNovus wrote:
Remember, Xel'Naga is considered the most balanced ladder map. It provided very nearly the worst game in the series.

This should show that the GSL maps are leaps. and. bounds. better than ladder maps.


That's true, but the result of the game had more to do with the poor decisions made. He went down two tech paths and tossed away his initial units. Sure, a larger map might have precluded the doomed headlong charge to the Zerg expansion and/or afforded him time to mass the units he wanted without paying for his mistake, but just building your map pool around games where it's hard to play poorly enough to lose seems odd.


Yeah, but on the flipside of that, there are situations like ZvZ on Steppes, where you make one micro mistake and insta-die. That doesn't really make for fun games to either spectate or play.

So while I do agree that bad play should not be rewarded, it gets really boring if we can't tolerate inevitable mistakes and victory in spite of it. Because if that's the case, I look forward to null set being the Code A champion.

Though I agree, that attack made me sad and he should have lost and the counterattack was the only viable response in that dire a situation. That said, perhaps so dire a situation would not have occurred were there larger maps. Long story short, Squirtle was boned.

... oh god. I'm sorry about that image, I... oh god, no... oh...
Droning his sorrows in massive amounts of macro
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
February 10 2011 23:45 GMT
#3137
OMG just finished the series. Game 8 was AMAZING! wow... probably gonna watch it again. OMG. So good in 720p. So many zealots/stalkers/HTs/everything/tanks/immortals omg..
Neosta2
Profile Joined March 2010
China117 Posts
February 10 2011 23:54 GMT
#3138
wowowowowow
My country is the world and my religion is to do good. - Thomas Paine
Quesa
Profile Joined November 2010
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 00:03:56
February 11 2011 00:03 GMT
#3139
On February 11 2011 08:44 RHMVNovus wrote:Yeah, but on the flipside of that, there are situations like ZvZ on Steppes, where you make one micro mistake and insta-die. That doesn't really make for fun games to either spectate or play.


That's quite true, and I'm not arguing that point at all; I'm simply *that this was not one of those games.

*saying
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
Quesa
Profile Joined November 2010
United States304 Posts
February 11 2011 00:05 GMT
#3140
On February 11 2011 08:36 hagrin wrote:For those who know more than me, was this the most BM team match up in SC/BW/SC2 history and if not, what series was? I could list all the BM in this series, but it would take a really, really long time haha.


Yeah, I was too busy playing Everquest and WoW for the past decade, I was curious how that rated too, lol.
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