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On January 31 2011 14:34 elementz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 14:26 DystopiaX wrote:On January 31 2011 13:55 mindspike wrote:On January 31 2011 10:49 Space Invader wrote:
I'm kind of curious about the Up and Down matches because it seems like since the finalists of Code A can choose their opponents and they're basically going to always pick the worst players, that means that there's always going to be a few players in Code S who are actually just really bad. This means that you also have players like Maka and Leenock who get taken down to Code A even though its so obvious that they're way above that level... No idea what you are talking about. It was fairly clear that Maka and Leenock are in Code A all due to their own fault. They lost during the Up/Down matches and the reason they were there in the first place was because they sucked it up in Code S. Not understanding that logic...if they pick the worst players then the worst players would drop down to Code A, no? 2 advance so one of the 2 worst players will drop in code A one will stay in Code S that only means it will take a tab longer for the "bad" players (I like to call them not as strong) to be eliminated from code s/a...
But the worst person would still be the one kicked out; whether you think that it should be the two worst people is an individual opinion thing...the players who stay may not be the best but they'd still be the ones that deserve to be there.
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Losira lost to TLO in S1.
The matches were fairly good but he didn't qualify for GSL2/3 so sorta dropped into obscurity.
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On January 31 2011 14:34 elementz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 14:26 DystopiaX wrote:On January 31 2011 13:55 mindspike wrote:On January 31 2011 10:49 Space Invader wrote:
I'm kind of curious about the Up and Down matches because it seems like since the finalists of Code A can choose their opponents and they're basically going to always pick the worst players, that means that there's always going to be a few players in Code S who are actually just really bad. This means that you also have players like Maka and Leenock who get taken down to Code A even though its so obvious that they're way above that level... No idea what you are talking about. It was fairly clear that Maka and Leenock are in Code A all due to their own fault. They lost during the Up/Down matches and the reason they were there in the first place was because they sucked it up in Code S. Not understanding that logic...if they pick the worst players then the worst players would drop down to Code A, no? 2 advance so one of the 2 worst players will drop in code A one will stay in Code S that only means it will take a tab longer for the "bad" players (I like to call them not as strong) to be eliminated from code s/a...
Unless the finalists of Code A keep picking the same player each season 
That is of course assuming they fail(which of course is highly likely anyway).
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It is surprising how many people fail to understand the system of Up and Down games even though it has been explained by various people.
They choose someone who finishes 3rd and someone who finishes 4th in the Code S group stage. So yes, we were unlucky because LegalMind got LiveForever in his group, and therefore finished 3rd in his CodeS R32 group, but over time this sort of anomaly will stop happening as there will be less and less bad players in Code S and the Code S groups are organised by points (it has 1 top 8 1 top 8-16 and 2 top 16-32 player for each Ro32 group).
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What happened with Artosis?
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Who he made fun of a lot in his Code A match ironically. A commentator can criticize a player without being able to beat him of course, but Artosis might want to tone down the ridiculing of players that are better than him.
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Apparently Ggoma did a weird build with a bunch of thors, not sure which game though.
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Does gGoma ever do a normal build? I like his builds and and decisions but his control need a lot of work.
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Haha that's awesome. Hopefully it humbles him a bit and he can stop being so arrogant
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On January 31 2011 15:40 Orome wrote:
Who he made fun of a lot in his Code A match ironically. A commentator can criticize a player without being able to beat him of course, but Artosis might want to tone down the ridiculing of players that are better than him.
...it's not like Artosis is suggesting that he deserves to be in Code A...as a commentator, it's his job to criticize players in relation to how good other pros are, not how good he is...if that weren't the case, his commentary would be nothing but praise for all the players there, and that's not good commentary. Artosis may not be as good, but knows enough to be able to criticize the players, and as the "analyst" it's his job.
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So is this all the quals or just the first day/set?
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Are you guys implying that you need to be a Code S gamer to be able to comment on the state of some of the Code A games? Give me a break..... A Bronze level player can see the flaws in a pro-gamers game when you're watching from the observers perspective, let alone Artosis!
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On January 31 2011 08:12 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 08:03 Scorch wrote:
I'm looking forward to seeing more foreigners play. I'm confident in HuK (great performance on the ladder) and Ret (has already shown promise in the GSL), but skeptical about Moonglade's chances. With Haypro I'm not quite sure. Some say he is as underrated as Jinro was before MLG, but I don't believe that. I think he is Teamliquid's weakest link in Korea. Well, Haypro is certainly not a bad player, and even if he is TL's weakest link, he is still one of the top foreigners. He has had success in some tournaments and has quite a bit of BW experience. His elimination in GSL S3 was to the hands of BitByBit, which is forgivable considering no one really knew about BBB's all-in style until several rounds into GSL, so it is understandable that Haypro wasn't prepared when he got all-ined all games. I'm sure that he will do better in straight-up matches, since we haven't seen him play many of those in GSL yet. His creep spreading skills are amazing, and his late game macro is superb and said to be on par with Ret's macro. I've seen his games in the online clan wars streams, and he is impressive when he is not even being all-ined.
ret was eliminated by bitbybit. haypro never qualified afaik.
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ret was eliminated by bitbybit. haypro never qualified afaik.
Haypro qualified, he was eliminated by 2 racks all-ins in the ro64 by some terran.
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On January 31 2011 17:20 DarKFoRcE wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2011 08:12 eviltomahawk wrote:On January 31 2011 08:03 Scorch wrote:
I'm looking forward to seeing more foreigners play. I'm confident in HuK (great performance on the ladder) and Ret (has already shown promise in the GSL), but skeptical about Moonglade's chances. With Haypro I'm not quite sure. Some say he is as underrated as Jinro was before MLG, but I don't believe that. I think he is Teamliquid's weakest link in Korea. Well, Haypro is certainly not a bad player, and even if he is TL's weakest link, he is still one of the top foreigners. He has had success in some tournaments and has quite a bit of BW experience. His elimination in GSL S3 was to the hands of BitByBit, which is forgivable considering no one really knew about BBB's all-in style until several rounds into GSL, so it is understandable that Haypro wasn't prepared when he got all-ined all games. I'm sure that he will do better in straight-up matches, since we haven't seen him play many of those in GSL yet. His creep spreading skills are amazing, and his late game macro is superb and said to be on par with Ret's macro. I've seen his games in the online clan wars streams, and he is impressive when he is not even being all-ined. ret was eliminated by bitbybit. haypro never qualified afaik.
In GSL3, Ret was eliminated by TheBestfOu in the round of 32 and Haypro was eliminated by BitByBitPrime in the round of 64.
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Did Incontrol not try to qualify this time?
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nvm someone beat me to it
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On January 31 2011 17:57 Mandalor wrote:
Did Incontrol not try to qualify this time?
He only went to Korea for GSL3 qualifiers, he's in the US now.
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