EPTwhat game talk is there to do during tvzs when it's the exact same game over and over and over and over?
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Hinduuism
United States47 Posts
what game talk is there to do during tvzs when it's the exact same game over and over and over and over? | ||
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Sqalevon
Netherlands523 Posts
On January 03 2011 20:30 zemiron wrote: What happened in the first Code S game today? + Show Spoiler + Nestea's hatch first lost to MVP's 2rax thanks to a missplaced spinecrawler that didnt cover the ramp properly. | ||
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
On January 03 2011 20:23 Mercury- wrote: How was this a cheese or allin? It was normal 2 rax pressure, he even had a CC going up FFs. Yeah 8 lings lose to 10 marines, go figure. That's what happens when you play super greedy on close positions. Hey Mr. Clueless. There is nothing super greedy about 14 hatch. He needs creep and larva to defend 2rax pressure without being put seriously behind the instant MVP lands his expo CC. | ||
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amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
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NeoLearner
Belgium1847 Posts
On January 03 2011 20:32 Sqalevon wrote: + Show Spoiler + Nestea's hatch first lost to MVP's 2rax thanks to a missplaced spinecrawler that didnt cover the ramp properly. Replace Nestea with FruitDealer but the rest is pretty much it. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On January 03 2011 20:33 vrok wrote: Hey Mr. Clueless. There is nothing super greedy about 14 hatch. He needs creep and larva to defend 2rax pressure without being put seriously behind the instant MVP lands his expo CC. It takes a while before you have enough drones to make use of both hatches larvae, it is a greedy build on those positions. He would have had a rough time whatever he did, but hatch first wasn't ideal. | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 03 2011 20:35 Deadlyhazard wrote: Grr I feel clueless, fruitdealer only played one game and it switched to Zenio vs Jookto? best of one, this format is so good | ||
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Megakenny
Canada829 Posts
On January 03 2011 20:33 vrok wrote: Hey Mr. Clueless. There is nothing super greedy about 14 hatch. He needs creep and larva to defend 2rax pressure without being put seriously behind the instant MVP lands his expo CC. 14 hatch is pretty greedy with how the meta game is, and in those positions on LT. He should have done something safer. | ||
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amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
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Wunder
United Kingdom2950 Posts
On January 03 2011 20:35 Deadlyhazard wrote: Grr I feel clueless, fruitdealer only played one game and it switched to Zenio vs Jookto? Read the format on the first page? | ||
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zemiron
United States481 Posts
On January 03 2011 20:32 Sqalevon wrote: + Show Spoiler + Nestea's hatch first lost to MVP's 2rax thanks to a missplaced spinecrawler that didnt cover the ramp properly. Thanks. I'm kind of glad I missed it. TvZ is so painful to watch these days. | ||
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Velocity`
United Kingdom343 Posts
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On January 03 2011 20:32 Hinduuism wrote: what game talk is there to do during tvzs when it's the exact same game over and over and over and over? Okay.. so more balance talk - lets do it.. /sarcasm.. LR thread for LR not for balance talk 5min into the next game.. whatever. Zenio on infestor/bling/roach Jukto on roach/hydra teching to hive. Artosis/tasteless predicting win for zenio; | ||
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TributeBoxer
United States163 Posts
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amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
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Megakenny
Canada829 Posts
On January 03 2011 20:37 amd098 wrote: so hive... ultras? Broodlords, very late spire. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 03 2011 20:35 Megakenny wrote: 14 hatch is pretty greedy with how the meta game is, and in those positions on LT. He should have done something safer. Why do you throw around the word "meta game" incorrectly, especially since the current ""meta game"" is that you must 14hatch to be able to defend the 2rax. So what is safer if everything else loses to it? (except a super early pool and queen that gets the first larva inject quickly, but then you might be behind in econ too much) | ||
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nK)Duke
Germany936 Posts
wtf is wrong with you. zvz in scbw may be only micro based, but it's fucking action packed as hell. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On January 03 2011 20:32 Hinduuism wrote: what game talk is there to do during tvzs when it's the exact same game over and over and over and over? The key is to watch for the subtle things. I'll tell you how FD lost that game and how it has nothing to do with balance. FD scouted 2 rax and made 6 lings and brought a lot of drones to defend the typical bunker rush. MVP poked up and saw a spine crawler going down at the left side of the hatch. He pulled back, collected his marines and just as the spine crawler finished, he pushed up giving fruit no time to reposition that spine crawler. So as you saw, he hugged the wall and made sure he was outside of the spine crawler's range. This was also compounded by the fact that FD had no idea whether mvp was really pulling back or just regrouping. So he didn't spam zerglings which he would've needed to do to survive. | ||
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