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gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
December 10 2010 15:58 GMT
#2481
4-0, like i called it.

come to think of it, the game came down to who had a better game vs the other.
i think its time for zergs (like me) to stop whining now LOL
JAEDONG ÜBERBONJWA!
Fedex
Profile Joined November 2010
United States28 Posts
December 10 2010 16:01 GMT
#2482
Man I wish Jinro could have pulled this one out. MC is an absolute wrecking ball. Kudos to him though, amazing play from a player that definitely deserves to be in the finals. Should end up roflpwning Rain, but heres hoping for an epic 4-3 showdown =]

Great job Jinro! Keep working hard (especially with MC) and you'll really surprise some people in Code S!
Stay classy
Sayer
Profile Joined August 2009
United States403 Posts
December 10 2010 16:03 GMT
#2483
Now that jinro is out, I really wish it was MC vs one of the Zerg champion final. Oh well MC all the way!! Anyone but Terran!
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2984 Posts
December 10 2010 16:04 GMT
#2484
oGsMC is such a sneaky mofo. Completey outsmarted Jinro build wise and showed stellar micro. This dude is definitely the best protoss player right now.

I'm sad that Jinro got 4-0ed but making it into the semis was already a huge feat.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
December 10 2010 16:05 GMT
#2485
still sad this morning but I hope Jinro isn't discouraged. CODE S! Fuck ya! GL in 2011 Jinro.

cheerin MC vs RAIN.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
December 10 2010 16:06 GMT
#2486
On December 11 2010 00:24 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 23:46 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
How can you keep calling him "Jinro" and asking "why are people being so nice when he lost?" But then ignoring his clan tag... Liquid... he best damn well get gentle treatment... he is a friggin hero on his team's website and he just lost a top 4 match against the guy who will probably win.

While trying to play macro games and his opponent one base all-ining no less.

Congrats to Jinro! Very proud of you, the best showing of a foreigner by far in the GSL.


Erm, this only applies to one game - the third, where MC went void rays.
Game 1: Jinro dies to single gateway pressure (not proxy'd, not all-in)
Game 2: MC expands early, long before the initial push (count: 2 base).
Game 4: Jinro goes for a proxy thor rush (not exactly a macro build).
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 16:10:57
December 10 2010 16:09 GMT
#2487
Just for fun, MC is currently 11/12 in his sets against Terran for GSL3 which is roughly 92% win rate, if he sweeps Rain he'll be at about 94% - So he'd still be 1% off his interview statement of saying his PvT was 95% successful
the farm ends here
universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
December 10 2010 16:13 GMT
#2488
MC better take this. he and Jinro were the only players in the round of 4 that really deserve to take the whole thing. it's a shame the two couldn't have met in the finals instead.

but Jinro still made it far, and he still really showed the potential that foreigners have.
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
December 10 2010 16:13 GMT
#2489
Amazing play from MC, none of the games were even close, except the last one where they both went risky builds.

Happy about having a P in the finals ^^ You better win this thing MC!
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
December 10 2010 16:14 GMT
#2490
On December 11 2010 01:09 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Just for fun, MC is currently 11/12 in his sets against Terran for GSL3 which is roughly 92% win rate, if he sweeps Rain he'll be at about 94% - So he'd still be 1% off his interview statement of saying his PvT was 95% successful


God, what a liar
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
December 10 2010 16:15 GMT
#2491
game 4 was kinda fun to watch. terran buildings burn so fast in sc2 lol
fuck lag
Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
December 10 2010 16:18 GMT
#2492
oGsMC played great games today. I don't understand why people can't see that his builds weren't cheesy - they were designed to exploit a timing and an advantage that he had to a significant degree, and Jinro just couldn't hold it off. It's people like MC who push the boundaries of these timing pushes that will help the game advance and mature - as they discover the strengths and weaknesses of various timing pushes, various openings will become ironed out in all matchup, and top players overall will become better at dealing with these kinds of openings. If one opening or another is found to be unstoppable, blizzard can patch it properly.

But overall, I think people need to stop complaining about this strong early play as being "cheesy" when all it's doing is pushing the boundaries of the game in a good way. The goal of playing a match - whether on the ladder or in a tournament - is to win. If you can exploit an advantage early on that can help you win without screwing yourself over later, why wouldn't you? If you keep losing to strong early pushes, what aspect of your build is holding you back? What can you do to disrupt the opponent's timing? These are all questions we as players should be asking ourselves and our friends, not whining about the cheese and short games, but instead figuring out ways to deal with them.
._. \: |: /: .-. :\ :| :/ ._. They see me rolling...
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
December 10 2010 16:20 GMT
#2493
aww poor chinro those games sucked balls.
mols0n
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada388 Posts
December 10 2010 16:23 GMT
#2494
People are just upset Jinro lost, its natural. Anyways I really wish now that mc would be playing Fruitdealer or Nestea because I feel like Rain really doesn`t have a chance vs him. 4-1 for mc 4-2 at the most.
ALARM
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany63 Posts
December 10 2010 16:23 GMT
#2495
Man those builds by MC looked like they were sniping builds. Especially the last one and the second one. Oooooph.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 16:26:21
December 10 2010 16:24 GMT
#2496
On December 11 2010 01:18 Vod.kaholic wrote:
oGsMC played great games today. I don't understand why people can't see that his builds weren't cheesy - they were designed to exploit a timing and an advantage that he had to a significant degree, and Jinro just couldn't hold it off. It's people like MC who push the boundaries of these timing pushes that will help the game advance and mature - as they discover the strengths and weaknesses of various timing pushes, various openings will become ironed out in all matchup, and top players overall will become better at dealing with these kinds of openings. If one opening or another is found to be unstoppable, blizzard can patch it properly.

But overall, I think people need to stop complaining about this strong early play as being "cheesy" when all it's doing is pushing the boundaries of the game in a good way. The goal of playing a match - whether on the ladder or in a tournament - is to win. If you can exploit an advantage early on that can help you win without screwing yourself over later, why wouldn't you? If you keep losing to strong early pushes, what aspect of your build is holding you back? What can you do to disrupt the opponent's timing? These are all questions we as players should be asking ourselves and our friends, not whining about the cheese and short games, but instead figuring out ways to deal with them.


I agree, none of the builds or pushes were really committal. The closest to that was the DT game, which is a solid Jungle build because of the natural and the cross-gap warp-in and the void ray game where he had 4 gates + stargate without an expo. In either case if the push was deflected, but did damage, he could have easily transitioned out of it.

The games were nuts, MC just makes the match up look unwinnable. If Jinro was to lose to anyone I'm glad it was MC.
Logo
Cadian
Profile Joined November 2010
United States3 Posts
December 10 2010 16:26 GMT
#2497
The second worst thing about Jinro losing is that now we don't get to hear Tastosis talking about how TSL_Rain has gotten to practice against Clide all week. I love it when they talk about Clide.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 16:29:45
December 10 2010 16:28 GMT
#2498
Too bad this series didn't involve any ghosts. I like getting an early Thor to combat FFs though. NT Jinro, congrats on code S and good luck in 2011!!!
mburke05
Profile Joined October 2010
United States130 Posts
December 10 2010 16:29 GMT
#2499
you guys are seriously seriously underrating tsl_rain
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
December 10 2010 16:31 GMT
#2500
Those games were pretty disappointing :/ I was rooting for Jinro so much but those really didn't seem reflective of his skill. I still can't figure out what exactly went wrong in game one that he lost to 1-gate pressure, and it seemed like he just lost confidence going from there.

Well hey, Jinro did clinch S-Rank this season at least! So we'll get to see him next year where he can amaze us all again :D
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
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