EPT[GSL] S3 Ro32 Day 2 - Page 122
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Shakes
Australia557 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On November 29 2010 21:17 Talin wrote: Yeah... it's pretty much the best maps fo' u. =/ Nice1 :D That was so close. I hoped so much for a round of mutalisk to come and clean up everything, damn. | ||
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Yernbek
Australia32 Posts
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Corrupted
United States1255 Posts
On November 29 2010 21:17 KonohaFlash wrote: There was no all-in don't know what some people on this board are complaining about. The only problem was the maps. Ridiculous how only 1 map was good for zerg while the rest were unbelivably horrid. The only reason that map is considered good for zerg is because it is balanced. Unfortunately that is very rare in the map pool...so zerg is getting absolutely screwed by this non-veto garbage. For the record, zerg is my least favorite race. | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
 but people need to calm the fk downthebest acutally had some nice timing and micro in that last game | ||
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Tears.Of.The.Moon
Slovenia715 Posts
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AmaZing
Nepal299 Posts
Ret still fighting! | ||
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Olmer
Poland320 Posts
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
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Sideburn
United States442 Posts
On November 29 2010 21:18 .Aar wrote: There was no cheese this game. No, any play that beats a zerg is cheese. Standard play is play that loses to zerg. Please, this should be obvious. | ||
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blizzind
United States642 Posts
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tg4u
Bulgaria125 Posts
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Nuri
New Zealand280 Posts
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
On November 29 2010 21:19 .kv wrote: I don't get how some of yall say TheBestfOu is amazing...he's sooo overrated, anyone that plays Terran in the diamond league WITH those maps would've won 2-1 and would've won the exact maps this fool won on I understand that people on TL are biased for Ret but this is getting ridiculous. | ||
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Tjuhl
Germany17 Posts
To clarify: TheBestfOu definitely played well, but so did LiquidRet. Ret also didn't really overdrone, the maps per se greatly deny to Zerg what Zerg needs to NOT overdrone: time to react to the enemy's play. For Steppes of War, the base-to-base run distance is very short, the spots where one as Zerg can scout the enemy very limited (e.g. right behind the brush distance when Terran has no flyers, overlord at the destructible rocks). LiquidRet could of course have played a little bit more carefully, building more units, but then TheBestfOu could just have delayed his timing push a little bit and force LiquidRet to basically "waste" his larvae by not using them, gaining an economic advantage. This similarly applies to Jungle Basin where there are very few locations Zerg can obtain enemy intel plus the few locations (e.g. at the natural, left to the main base) are not all-too relevant for the core army movement. LiquidRet's intel was basically limited to the entrance to his main base throughout the game, rendering him almost impossible to properly using his larvae, i.e. properly decide between drones and units. LiquidRet could and probably should have fought for more map control but had pretty much no means whatsoever to do that after TheBestfOu's initial pushes on the maps, constricting LiquidRet to his main base. And THIS is the main issue for the two maps Steppes of War and Jungle Basin: once restricted, Zerg has very few means to regain map control in an economically cost-efficient fashion in early to early mid game. For Jungle Basin, the destructible rocks at the back of the natural take quite long to tear down and the run distance from the rocks to the main entrance, allowing for surrounds / flanking, is too long. This similarly applies to Steppes of War. Hm... This makes me thinking: are Nydus Worms and/or Burrow underused on those maps, which allow for according favorable positioning? | ||
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Carthac
United States393 Posts
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DoXa
Switzerland1448 Posts
i hope gomtv is going to reconsider giving the players a veto for the maps. because this system is crap, like the maps that blizzard made. i hope gomTV invites professional korean mapmakers for the GSL 2011, this was mentioned in SotG and this has to be done. | ||
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pyro19
6575 Posts
It must have sniped like 4-5 overlords.The Viking won the game for me plus the sweet micro with the MMM. | ||
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Cite
Australia251 Posts
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