EPTAll-Star R8 FoxeR vs Fruitdealer Genius vs Tester - Page 38
| Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments |
|
Biomechanic
Sweden13 Posts
| ||
|
kidgonesmall
United States309 Posts
 | ||
|
Moragon
United States355 Posts
| ||
|
iNversion
United States107 Posts
| ||
|
klauz619
453 Posts
On November 20 2010 17:53 Terrifyer wrote: Gah, his play was quite epic in the end I must say. Wonderful drops. If he didnt make that error at the end, I think he would of had it He never stood a chance at all. | ||
|
Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
The fact is, Kyrix is a great player. He showed much better game than TheWind, who was indecisive with his attacks, timings and just generally passive. Kyrix plays with no fear in his eyes. He was getting killed by banshees, but that didn't stop him from expanding right away once he got mutas. To the gold. A player like Idra would have ragequitted or gg-ed instantaneously if he saw that many banshees coming to him and killing his queens. I would rank Kyrix very high up, along with NesTea and Fruitdealer, and higher than TheWind. I don't know where Zenio and Idra rank. | ||
|
FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
He's known for aggression, but as we saw in game 2 he can also play a macro style very effectively. I don't think we've ever seen Kyrix play a ZvZ, have we? I think he should be too good for TheWind, but anything can happen in a ZvZ bo3... | ||
|
HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
That's the problem I have when going thors in tvz, after they mass enough roach/muta + shit it is hard to stop. But then again I'm a noob who just likes to theorycraft when his favourite player loses. Still he even made that a game with his ultimate harass abilities. Really delightful to watch. Surely going deep in the GSL again. | ||
|
bearhug
United States999 Posts
On November 20 2010 15:25 udgnim wrote: it looks like the Chinese stream has some Chinese player playing on the Korean server Chinese player looks to be playing pretty fast, but got owned by storms in a PvZ next game Chinese player gets owned by proxy pylon warp-in on Scrap Station :D that's a 900 diamond Chinese random player, who work for the website(casting). they show the games for fun. | ||
|
TaxiCab
15 Posts
Chinese commentator called the banshees "Avatars" referring to the gunships in the movie. Boxer is referred to as Brother Bao. Zerg is called the "Bug Race", zerglings "puppies/little dogs" | ||
|
Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
| ||
|
Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
On November 20 2010 17:58 HwangjaeTerran wrote: IMO BoxeRs play had too much passivity, maybe it's because of getting all those thors, but yeah I think he shoulda been able to really punish that third earlier. That's the problem I have when going thors in tvz, after they mass enough roach/muta + shit it is hard to stop. But then again I'm a noob who just likes to theorycraft when his favourite player loses. Still he even made that a game with his ultimate harass abilities. Really delightful to watch. Surely going deep in the GSL again. I am not too sure, but I think once he made all those banshees and lost them, and also Kyrix's mutas killed a bunch of SCVs, Boxer was forced to play defensive. He was already behind. He could risk to go out and attack, but that would be an all in, because mutas can come back and just kill all SCVs, I though he defended well, even expanded and killed Kyrix's expo. May be he should have continued turtling, but Kyrix was far ahead, may be he was feeling the pressure. | ||
|
klauz619
453 Posts
On November 20 2010 18:00 Piledriver wrote: TBH I feel vikings are better to harass zerg than banshees. 4-5 vikings can totally screw the zergs supply, and also they are helpful in fighting off mutalisks along with marine support. Plus they cost lower gas as well. Helpless vs queens, curb stomped by mutas, gimped vs ground. No, they aren't good vs zerg. | ||
|
Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
On November 20 2010 17:58 HwangjaeTerran wrote: IMO BoxeRs play had too much passivity, maybe it's because of getting all those thors, but yeah I think he shoulda been able to really punish that third earlier. That's the problem I have when going thors in tvz, after they mass enough roach/muta + shit it is hard to stop. But then again I'm a noob who just likes to theorycraft when his favourite player loses. Still he even made that a game with his ultimate harass abilities. Really delightful to watch. Surely going deep in the GSL again. I feel the same way. Thors are great on Lost temple for drops etc, and for stopping muta harass. But once zerg gets enough roaches/muta they just seem useless. I wonder if we will see couple ghosts to just stop the muta harass again. They are good to snipe banelings aswell. | ||
|
cuppatea
United Kingdom1401 Posts
On November 20 2010 17:37 Shinta) wrote: haha, you have no idea what terrible is. Have you watched one of your own replays and compared it with one of Kyrix's? Anyways go Kyrix, dethrone the Emperor! Obviously I'm comparing Kyrix to world class SC2 players and not myself when I say that he's awful and obviously "awful" is an exaggeration. I just think he's a fairly mediocre semi-pro who is currently being propped up by the state of ZvT and will fall off the map when 1 and 2 base all in'ing every game stops working against competent Terran players (and yes I know he managed to get off 2 base this game and won a somewhat macro game but he was completely unprepared for the banshees and would have lost then if Boxer had just killed queens and drones instead of the spire). | ||
|
netherDrake
Singapore1831 Posts
On November 20 2010 17:56 Xxavi wrote: I think at that point he already lost the game. The fact is, Kyrix is a great player. He showed much better game than TheWind, who was indecisive with his attacks, timings and just generally passive. Kyrix plays with no fear in his eyes. He was getting killed by banshees, but that didn't stop him from expanding right away once he got mutas. To the gold. A player like Idra would have ragequitted or gg-ed instantaneously if he saw that many banshees coming to him and killing his queens. I would rank Kyrix very high up, along with NesTea and Fruitdealer, and higher than TheWind. I don't know where Zenio and Idra rank. I think Zenio/Nestea/Fruit are the 3 best Zergs atm, followed by Idra and maybe Ret/Kyrix/theWind. | ||
|
Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
TheWind wasn't too bad, but he was not as good as Kyrix, IMO. | ||
|
GP
United States1056 Posts
On November 20 2010 18:05 cuppatea wrote: Obviously I'm comparing Kyrix to world class SC2 players and not myself when I say that he's awful and obviously "awful" is an exaggeration. I just think he's a fairly mediocre semi-pro who is currently being propped up by the state of ZvT and will fall off the map when 1 and 2 base all in'ing every game stops working against competent Terran players (and yes I know he managed to get off 2 base this game and won a somewhat macro game but he was completely unprepared for the banshees and would have lost then if Boxer had just killed queens and drones instead of the spire). I'm sorry when did Kyrix 1/2 base all-in? Why is it seen by many snobby players as cheesy for a zerg to be aggressive. Kyrix didn't all in at all, he even played a macro game. He wasn't unprepared for the banshees, he held them off with queens until his mutas popped. Sure he could have microd his queens better, but that's splitting hairs. I think it's refreshing to see an aggressive Zerg player. I'm tired of watching games where the Zerg just hold off attacks until they get a max'ed army. Being aggressive while expanding is not all-ining, I'm sorry. | ||
|
Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
Super aggressive, addiction to one certain unit (banelings vs. marines), good split second decision making. No one seems to give enough credit to their macro, since it's always the endless attacks that get the attention, but I think their macro is actually really solid. Hence why they can keep making streams of units and overrun their opponents. Of the two, foxer seems to have superior micro, but I'd say kyrix have better macro, with his good expansion timing. I would LOVE to see both of them duking it out in the final. Due to their super aggressive styles they tend to produce great games in their encounters. Their G5 in GSL is actually the only game that deserved the 5stars. Although I would still want ssks to make it through, but I want to see some super intense games. BUT, PLEASE SOMEONE, KILL THAT FREAKING THEWIND GUY, HE"S TERRIBLE. Oh, final props to kyrix, I think in his dictionary, "defence" never existed, it's replaced by "counter attack". Damn I love him. | ||
|
Cyanocyst
2222 Posts
On November 20 2010 18:05 cuppatea wrote: Obviously I'm comparing Kyrix to world class SC2 players and not myself when I say that he's awful and obviously "awful" is an exaggeration. I just think he's a fairly mediocre semi-pro who is currently being propped up by the state of ZvT and will fall off the map when 1 and 2 base all in'ing every game stops working against competent Terran players (and yes I know he managed to get off 2 base this game and won a somewhat macro game but he was completely unprepared for the banshees and would have lost then if Boxer had just killed queens and drones instead of the spire). Lol that last game wasn't an all in. He was actually on the brink of death that game (his spire went down), but pulled through with macro to win it. Id also like to state that going all in with the roaches like that on Metalopolis, was a sound decision. Boxer had invested a lot of money in to his hellions, so he didn't have a particularly strong army. He had a good army for harass but not one to stop push. | ||
| ||
