EPTAll-Star R8 FoxeR vs Fruitdealer Genius vs Tester - Page 39
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Psyclon
Bulgaria2443 Posts
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netherDrake
Singapore1831 Posts
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
On November 20 2010 18:13 GP wrote: I'm sorry when did Kyrix 1/2 base all-in? Why is it seen by many snobby players as cheesy for a zerg to be aggressive. Kyrix didn't all in at all, he even played a macro game. He wasn't unprepared for the banshees, he held them off with queens until his mutas popped. Sure he could have microd his queens better, but that's splitting hairs. I think it's refreshing to see an aggressive Zerg player. I'm tired of watching games where the Zerg just hold off attacks until they get a max'ed army. Being aggressive while expanding is not all-ining, I'm sorry. Agreed, he was a little unprepared for banshees tho. However, boxer played a mind game with that 2 rax opening, he even did have some pretty good overlord scouting, but with boxer's building positions he was unable to scout the starports. No one can really blame him with that. Also, for game one his decision to counter attack won him the game. It's so pleasant to see someone that has "attack" flowing in his vines. Comparing to TheWind who never seems to be able to make up his mind, kyrix is so much more entertaining to watch. | ||
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
On November 20 2010 18:11 netherDrake wrote: I think Zenio/Nestea/Fruit are the 3 best Zergs atm, followed by Idra and maybe Ret/Kyrix/theWind. I heard only great things about Ret and I cannot wait to see him in GSL3. However, at the moment, it's too early to put him in the same level as Kyrix, who is S class and even in this tourney showing it's no fluke. He took out Ensnare and Boxer pretty one sidedly. | ||
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
On November 20 2010 18:11 netherDrake wrote: I think Zenio/Nestea/Fruit are the 3 best Zergs atm, followed by Idra and maybe Ret/Kyrix/theWind. At the moment it's probably too early to put Kyrix amongst the top tier, but his play has impressed me so far. I think our perception of who is the best will change after GSL3 regardless. I guess Nestea and Fruit have to be considered the two best Zergs at the moment. In the second tier I would put Kyrix, Zenio and maybe Check. In the next tier I would put Idra/TheWind and then there are a whole lot of players who may or may not prove themselves in GSL3, namely Ret/Sen/Moon/July/Leenock etc | ||
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
On November 20 2010 18:19 FuRong wrote: At the moment it's probably too early to put Kyrix amongst the top tier, but his play has impressed me so far. I think our perception of who is the best will change after GSL3 regardless. I guess Nestea and Fruit have to be considered the two best Zergs at the moment. In the second tier I would put Kyrix, Zenio and maybe Check. In the next tier I would put Idra/TheWind and then there are a whole lot of players who may or may not prove themselves in GSL3, namely Ret/Sen/Moon/July/Leenock etc Ret? I guess we agree completely then. | ||
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cuppatea
United Kingdom1401 Posts
On November 20 2010 18:13 GP wrote: I'm sorry when did Kyrix 1/2 base all-in? Why is it seen by many snobby players as cheesy for a zerg to be aggressive. Kyrix didn't all in at all, he even played a macro game. He wasn't unprepared for the banshees, he held them off with queens until his mutas popped. Sure he could have microd his queens better, but that's splitting hairs. I think it's refreshing to see an aggressive Zerg player. I'm tired of watching games where the Zerg just hold off attacks until they get a max'ed army. Being aggressive while expanding is not all-ining, I'm sorry. Count how many games he played last season where he would expand, make a handful of drones and then just pump nothing but lings, banelings and roaches and try to kill his 2 base opponent. Of course that's all-in because if you don't at least cause severe damage you're way behind and lose. It's not even particularly impressive aggression that he does. When Foxer was splitting his marines with incredible micro, how often did you see Kyrix splitting his banelings? And yesterday against Ensnare he was just throwing banelings away, wasting 5 at a time killing empty bunkers and shit. He doesn't play a defensive macro game because his mechanics are garbage, just keep an eye on his resource count, even when he has barely any drones (which is almost always) his minerals skyrocket. Apart from having a fairly unique and aggressive style (which is facilitated by the current balance of the game) I don't see anything he does well compared to the best Zergs out there. I'm not a fan of Idra's ultra defensive, pure macro style of play but then I don't like Kyrix's style of spamming the z and b keys and right clicking on his opponent's base either. Long term, for the good of the game, I'd like to think somewhere in between the 2 will yield the best results and guys like Kyrix will be left behind. | ||
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Hokay
United States738 Posts
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frucisky
Singapore2170 Posts
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Archvil3
Denmark989 Posts
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ZGeer
United States87 Posts
Foxer 2-1 Fruit Dealer Tester 2-1 Genius oGsTheWinD 2-1 MakaPrime KyrixZenith 2-0 SlayerSBoxer | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
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noD
2230 Posts
Watch on GOMTV (http://ch.gomtv.com/414) ( 15 hours, 6 minutes ) oh noes wanted boxer/foxer =( | ||
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Ingruz
Italy380 Posts
thanks :D | ||
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noD
2230 Posts
On November 20 2010 20:40 Ingruz wrote: damn sleeped all the morning :/ any suggest game? thanks :D Foxer last game and genius tester draw game ... | ||
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Ixas
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Ingruz
Italy380 Posts
On November 20 2010 20:46 Ixas wrote: Any idea where i can watch the vods? www.sc2rep.com | ||
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rMadness
United States50 Posts
wow thanks for this site! | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Thanks for this.If only there wasn't some dumb guy talking over the koreans it would've been perfect :/. | ||
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