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Tournament is over. VODs will be posted later.
Results:
+ Show Spoiler [Show Results] +1st -  SixJax.AhhBoxxah ($100) 2nd -  vVv.Optikzero ($50) 3rd/4th - TLAF-Liquid`Tyler ($25) 3rd/4th -  MasterAsia ($25)
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Only one noticeable player (Tyler). That's pretty bad for a TL tournament...
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On November 14 2010 02:41 raidmaster wrote:
Only one noticeable player (Tyler). That's pretty bad for a TL tournament...
Huh did you read the brackets? Tyler, Nazgul, AGH, RyanRushia, Stalife, and Fenix
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On November 14 2010 02:47 oZii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 02:41 raidmaster wrote:
Only one noticeable player (Tyler). That's pretty bad for a TL tournament... Huh did you read the brackets? Tyler, Nazgul, AGH, RyanRushia, Stalife, and Fenix
That's still bad if you look at the 2 previous TL Opens
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Braavos36388 Posts
There are a bunch more as well. It's tough because there's a lot of events going on this weekend. Not every TL Open will have all the big names, that's just how it's going to work as the TL Opens become more regular. Additionally, a lot of players are in Korea. Huk, Kiwi, Select, etc are all there trying to qualify for GSL and can't play in this (for lag or other reasons). All these guys were regulars in the earlier TL opens.
Hopefully lesser known players will just take the "weaker" field as an opportunity to make a name for themselves 
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I've noticed recently alot of times being notated in AEST (i'm assuming australian time). Why is that? And its totally awesome, i hate converting from PST/CEST or whatever the other timezones are
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On November 14 2010 02:55 Kiante wrote:
I've noticed recently alot of times being notated in AEST (i'm assuming australian time). Why is that? And its totally awesome, i hate converting from PST/CEST or whatever the other timezones are
It will be whatever is set as your time zone in your profile.
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On November 14 2010 02:47 oZii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 02:41 raidmaster wrote:
Only one noticeable player (Tyler). That's pretty bad for a TL tournament... Huh did you read the brackets? Tyler, Nazgul, AGH, RyanRushia, Stalife, and Fenix
To be honest I missed Fenix, but from all of the other players you mentioned, well, I don't consider them being that good. But I'll watch it despite the lacks. Hoping for some nice games.
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That was fun, even though I was eliminated on the first round by leaving my army without making sure it was on hold pos. I have never felt my skills put to the test that much! Thanks for the tournament was fun!!! gl to everyone else!!!
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ARGH why did I stay up for GSL finals the morning of the tourney..of course I wouldnt wake up on time....sorry for being yet another no-show
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What the heck is this reaper stuff?
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Nice tourney. 'Love watching Tyler!
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Not even one famous zerg player in this. I guess we''ll be watching Tyler vs Nazgul in the final.
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Tyler's micro was SICK! Nice swap to immo/phoenix!
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On November 14 2010 03:30 Psyclon wrote:
Not even one famous zerg player in this. I guess we''ll be watching Tyler vs Nazgul in the final.
MasterAsia.
Edit: Go PokeBunny.
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On November 14 2010 03:30 Psyclon wrote:
Not even one famous zerg player in this. I guess we''ll be watching Tyler vs Nazgul in the final.
Nazgul Bamboozled or something..
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On November 14 2010 04:01 jcroisdale wrote:
where.are.the.brackets
Maybe read original post first?
Check out the bracket to see match ups and results.
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Great, Fenix and Nazgul lost already 
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It'd be nice if good samaritans could update this thread with which of the 3 streams is showing what, so we don't have to flip through all 3 streams constantly.
Teeler vs Stiknork to start soon on Orb's stream.
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Is anyone going to stream the semifinals today? If so, which time and where?? Help guys!!: D
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On November 14 2010 06:14 Bobobberat wrote:
Is anyone going to stream the semifinals today? If so, which time and where?? Help guys!!: D
From djwheat's twitter:
EST is GMT - 5, so essentially should be going live shortly.
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On November 14 2010 06:14 Bobobberat wrote:
Is anyone going to stream the semifinals today? If so, which time and where?? Help guys!!: D
Look under the home bar! 
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I think they're finished up the Ro8 on those streams and then they move into the semis on wheat's ustream.
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Awesome intro. Who's the voice?!
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O_o that is an awesome intro (much MUUUUCCCHHHH better than the tekken voices they got on gom)
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Yeah, I instantly thought of that thread too when he said it. ;P
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Tylers PvP 
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lol, think tyler alt-tabbed
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HAHAHA i love nony but that game was hilarious... especially the end
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Don't think he was just chillin' there during those games.
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wut, Tyler got outplayed bigtime and was total BM, lol. He must have just been chillin.
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PvP is such a dumb matchup..
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On November 14 2010 07:38 Count9 wrote:
lol, think tyler alt-tabbed
I think Wheat's co-caster nailed it. Tyler gave no respect, up until the end. No GG at being outplayed. The manner Nexus made me lol.
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Wow really bm from Teeler.
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Haha yeah, Tyler just stopped playing for the last minute of the game after he had lost. Even worse than the gg a mere second before being eliminated in game 1.
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On November 14 2010 07:40 j0k3r wrote:I think Wheat's co-caster nailed it. Tyler gave no respect, up until the end. No GG at being outplayed. The manner Nexus made me lol.
hahahaha
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chill is taunting us with his "AAAOUUUUTS", isnt he?
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Ah, Tyler
Tough to come so far and then go out 2-0 unexpectedly.
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Lol I'm really looking forward to the next SotG now
Tyler just straight up lost, no excuse for that shit
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Tyler gives no respect =/ ... man, it's hard to root for him anymore =(. He says he's can beat anyone but hasn't shown much yet. And you'd think he'd be so good early on in SC2 because he's so good with builds.
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On November 14 2010 07:40 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 07:40 j0k3r wrote:On November 14 2010 07:38 Count9 wrote:
lol, think tyler alt-tabbed I think [b]Wheat's co-caster[/b[ nailed it. Tyler gave no respect, up until the end. No GG at being outplayed. The manner Nexus made me lol. hahahaha
lol I was gonna comment on that too
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lol 4 gate. wanted tyler to go all the way. that last game shows you how bad he thinks optic is hahahaaa.
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I just think tyler is fed up with how SC2 plays out, in SC1 he could copy korean builds and overwhelm his opponent with superior mechanics as BW was so difficult to even play properly.
With SC2 mechanical skill isn't really the differential at the highest level, but game sense, micro and unit composition.
Then again, if he really wanted to rely on his great mechanics he wouldn't choose a map like steppes that is perhaps the most micro intensive and least forgiving map in any MU as 1 misstake and the opponent is already in your base.
I'm still your #1 fan nony!
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On November 14 2010 07:41 lac29 wrote:
Tyler gives no respect =/ ... man, it's hard to root for him anymore =(. He says he's can beat anyone but hasn't shown much yet. And you'd think he'd be so good early on in SC2 because he's so good with builds.
yea, beating idra 4-1 is nothing.
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Haha, NonY got worked over by Optikzero. That was awesome to watch.
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On November 14 2010 07:40 j0k3r wrote:I think Wheat's co-caster nailed it. Tyler gave no respect, up until the end. No GG at being outplayed. The manner Nexus made me lol.
Did you just refer to CHILL as Wheat's co-caster? I believe, you sir, give no respect.
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These sounds are sick, very nice production value.
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On November 14 2010 07:44 ComusLoM wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 07:40 j0k3r wrote:On November 14 2010 07:38 Count9 wrote:
lol, think tyler alt-tabbed I think Wheat's co-caster nailed it. Tyler gave no respect, up until the end. No GG at being outplayed. The manner Nexus made me lol. Did you just refer to CHILL as Wheat's co-caster? I believe, you sir, give no respect.
Sincerest apologies to Chill. I just tuned in for the second game and had no idea who the second voice was =\
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On November 14 2010 07:43 zyglrox wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 07:41 lac29 wrote:
Tyler gives no respect =/ ... man, it's hard to root for him anymore =(. He says he's can beat anyone but hasn't shown much yet. And you'd think he'd be so good early on in SC2 because he's so good with builds. yea, beating idra 4-1 is nothing.
Sorry, a bunch of ppl with lower SC2-expectations than Tyler have beaten Idra. You wanna compare how good relative to other players Tyler was in BW compared to SC2? It's pretty obvious the difference.
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On November 14 2010 07:41 lac29 wrote:
Tyler gives no respect =/ ... man, it's hard to root for him anymore =(. He says he's can beat anyone but hasn't shown much yet. And you'd think he'd be so good early on in SC2 because he's so good with builds.
Tyler had a really good showing at MLG Dallas; the field was outrageously stacked and he finished fourth (going out 2-4 to PainUser in an extended series which he began down 0-2).
In the LB he eliminated SeleCT, Ret, and Machine in back-to-back-to-back matches...that's pretty sick.
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On November 14 2010 07:46 j0k3r wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 07:44 ComusLoM wrote:On November 14 2010 07:40 j0k3r wrote:On November 14 2010 07:38 Count9 wrote:
lol, think tyler alt-tabbed I think Wheat's co-caster nailed it. Tyler gave no respect, up until the end. No GG at being outplayed. The manner Nexus made me lol. Did you just refer to CHILL as Wheat's co-caster? I believe, you sir, give no respect. Sincerest apologies to Chill. I just tuned in for the second game and had no idea who the second voice was =\
Hahaha no worries Chill hasn't been as active with the SC2 scene. I still love him tho <3 Chills stream, too bad he won't stream anymore.
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Kind of sad that they're showing the number games for the next series...
On November 14 2010 07:46 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 07:41 lac29 wrote:
Tyler gives no respect =/ ... man, it's hard to root for him anymore =(. He says he's can beat anyone but hasn't shown much yet. And you'd think he'd be so good early on in SC2 because he's so good with builds. Tyler had a really good showing at MLG Dallas; the field was outrageously stacked and he finished fourth (going out 2-4 to PainUser in an extended series which he began down 0-2). In the LB he eliminated SeleCT, Ret, and Machine in back-to-back-to-back matches...that's pretty sick.
Not to mention he 4-1'd IdrA in a showmatch.
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On November 14 2010 07:43 Senx wrote:
I just think tyler is fed up with how SC2 plays out, in SC1 he could copy korean builds and overwhelm his opponent with superior mechanics as BW was so difficult to even play properly.
With SC2 mechanical skill isn't really the differential at the highest level, but game sense, micro and unit composition.
Then again, if he really wanted to rely on his great mechanics he wouldn't choose a map like steppes that is perhaps the most micro intensive and least forgiving map in any MU as 1 misstake and the opponent is already in your base.
I'm still your #1 fan nony!
This part of your post seems contradictory. Wouldn't someone with better mechanics want to pick a map that's unforgiving on mechanics?
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On November 14 2010 07:49 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Kind of sad that they're showing the number games for the next series...
chill said that they get fake replays, so it could be just 2 games
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On November 14 2010 07:46 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 07:41 lac29 wrote:
Tyler gives no respect =/ ... man, it's hard to root for him anymore =(. He says he's can beat anyone but hasn't shown much yet. And you'd think he'd be so good early on in SC2 because he's so good with builds. Tyler had a really good showing at MLG Dallas; the field was outrageously stacked and he finished fourth (going out 2-4 to PainUser in an extended series which he began down 0-2). In the LB he eliminated SeleCT, Ret, and Machine in back-to-back-to-back matches...that's pretty sick.
Sure he's had a few good, and maybe even great, showings. But I think if you were to put up a poll on if Tyler has met your expectations how how well he'd do in SC2 at this point in time ... most ppl would be disappointed. And couple that with what Tyler himself has been saying about how he feels so strong in SC2... it's even more disappointing.
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edit: derp, no it wasn't.
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It seems to me like Tyler always sticks to aggression when his first push fails. Is that usually a good idea? It never seems to work out for him.
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On November 14 2010 07:49 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 07:43 Senx wrote:
I just think tyler is fed up with how SC2 plays out, in SC1 he could copy korean builds and overwhelm his opponent with superior mechanics as BW was so difficult to even play properly.
With SC2 mechanical skill isn't really the differential at the highest level, but game sense, micro and unit composition.
Then again, if he really wanted to rely on his great mechanics he wouldn't choose a map like steppes that is perhaps the most micro intensive and least forgiving map in any MU as 1 misstake and the opponent is already in your base.
I'm still your #1 fan nony! This part of your post seems contradictory. Wouldn't someone with better mechanics want to pick a map that's unforgiving on mechanics?
Well his great mechanics don't really kick in when the entire game is played out on 1 base.
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Chill & Wheat getting trolled hard by Hotbid.
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On November 14 2010 07:52 Senx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 07:49 Jyvblamo wrote:On November 14 2010 07:43 Senx wrote:
I just think tyler is fed up with how SC2 plays out, in SC1 he could copy korean builds and overwhelm his opponent with superior mechanics as BW was so difficult to even play properly.
With SC2 mechanical skill isn't really the differential at the highest level, but game sense, micro and unit composition.
Then again, if he really wanted to rely on his great mechanics he wouldn't choose a map like steppes that is perhaps the most micro intensive and least forgiving map in any MU as 1 misstake and the opponent is already in your base.
I'm still your #1 fan nony! This part of your post seems contradictory. Wouldn't someone with better mechanics want to pick a map that's unforgiving on mechanics? Well his great mechanics don't really kick in when the entire game is played out on 1 base.
It's PvP so it doesn't really matter.
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On November 14 2010 07:52 Jyvblamo wrote:
Chill & Wheat getting trolled hard by Hotbid.
^^ and wheat really wanted to cast it atfirst
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On November 14 2010 07:46 lac29 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 07:43 zyglrox wrote:On November 14 2010 07:41 lac29 wrote:
Tyler gives no respect =/ ... man, it's hard to root for him anymore =(. He says he's can beat anyone but hasn't shown much yet. And you'd think he'd be so good early on in SC2 because he's so good with builds. yea, beating idra 4-1 is nothing. Sorry, a bunch of ppl with lower SC2-expectations than Tyler have beaten Idra. You wanna compare how good relative to other players Tyler was in BW compared to SC2? It's pretty obvious the difference.
Tyler was a top 3 foreigner BW player at a time when 200 people were trying to be competitive at the game. There are thousands of people trying to be competitive at SC2, and Tyler is easily top 10-20 outside of korea. Relatively speaking, he's doing at least as well in SC2. Honestly though, everyone's play outside of GSL top 8 finishers looks really rough at this point, and no one is a huge favorite over anyone else.
Funny that I'm defending him though. I don't like his style of play and he has too many fanboys imo, but he's still a good player.
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DJWheat moaning turns me on.
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On November 14 2010 07:49 Ludwigvan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 07:49 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Kind of sad that they're showing the number games for the next series... chill said that they get fake replays, so it could be just 2 games
Yeah do we have to go over this every TL Open? The casters are getting replays as they're being played, so the number of replays you see is no indication of how the games turned out.
I mean damn...sometimes I feel like people try hard to feel spoiled, just so they can complain about it. It always slays me when someone gets really pissed about seeing a spoiler on TL, especially for a huge event like GSL Finals or something. Like, what's the thought process there?
"Oh wow I haven't watched GSL Finals yet, everyone in the StarCraft world must be buzzing about it but I really really don't want to find out the results...OK let me just open up the biggest SC news site in the world and start browsing around...oh WTF people are talking about the GSL Finals results here? I'M SHOCKED RAGE RAGE"
It's all so silly; there might have been a place for careful guarding of match results when live streams weren't so accessible, but now I really feel there's no excuse for checking TL when you haven't watched the matches live. If I could change the community overnight I'd make spoilers acceptable everywhere except in thread titles and threads like the Small VOD Thread.
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On November 14 2010 07:58 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 07:49 Ludwigvan wrote:On November 14 2010 07:49 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Kind of sad that they're showing the number games for the next series... chill said that they get fake replays, so it could be just 2 games Yeah do we have to go over this every TL Open? The casters are getting replays as they're being played, so the number of replays you see is no indication of how the games turned out. I mean damn...sometimes I feel like people try hard to feel spoiled, just so they can complain about it. It always slays me when someone gets really pissed about seeing a spoiler on TL, especially for a huge event like GSL Finals or something. Like, what's the thought process there? "Oh wow I haven't watched GSL Finals yet, everyone in the StarCraft world must be buzzing about it but I really really don't want to find out the results...OK let me just open up the biggest SC news site in the world and start browsing around... oh WTF people are talking about the GSL Finals results here? I'M SHOCKED RAGE RAGE"
HEY HEY HEY. We need things to rage about. You can't expect us to be happy can you? God...
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It's not just TL, the internet has become so obsessed with spoilers that it's suddenly expected that nobody talks about anything until the rest of the community has seen / read / played through the entire content at their leisure or a month expires.
One of the internet's worst ideas ever tbh.
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That game 1 was the definition of overconfidence and greed by the zerg player. Taking the gold was just a terrible idea.
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On November 14 2010 08:12 Asshat wrote:
That game 1 was the definition of overconfidence and greed by the zerg player. Taking the gold was just a terrible idea.
I don't agree.. he just didn't handle the terran pressure well. He had enough units to stop it if he fought with the right positioning.
ahhhboxah's apm is ridiculous
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EE-Han-Timing Chill<3 As a Zerg player is it wrong for me to be constantly wanting terrans and protoss to win?
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On November 14 2010 08:14 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 08:12 Asshat wrote:
That game 1 was the definition of overconfidence and greed by the zerg player. Taking the gold was just a terrible idea. I don't agree... it just didn't handle the terran pressure well.
The gold is just too difficult to defend vs well positioned siege tanks. Yeah he certainly didn't handle it optimally but he had the advantage until then, instead he put it into jeopardy when he took an unnecessary risk by taking the gold when he could've taken the 3rd in the back instead and it would've been a much safer choice that still would preserve or increase his lead. He instead tried to go for the big jump and crashed down.
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On November 14 2010 08:14 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 08:12 Asshat wrote:
That game 1 was the definition of overconfidence and greed by the zerg player. Taking the gold was just a terrible idea. I don't agree.. he just didn't handle the terran pressure well. He had enough units to stop it if he fought with the right positioning.
If he wanted to take a quick and sneaky third why did he take a base that can be seen by a watch tower that is on the terran player's side of the map.
There is nothing wrong with taking a risk and expanding when you can't justify it because every once in a while it can pay for itself but at least take the third in a location that is easier to defend OR in one that is harder to find.
The gold is both difficult to defend AND easy to find. The worst location for a quick third you could choose.
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No results in the OP or bracket? It seems like Nony just lost but that's all I can figure out.
edit: CHILL CASTING must watch
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WOAAAH SO MANY DRONES ALL IN ONE SPOT.
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Love the smell of burning drones in the morning.
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On November 14 2010 08:18 jalstar wrote:
No results in the OP or bracket? It seems like Nony just lost but that's all I can figure out.
edit: CHILL CASTING must watch
bracket has all results, or at least the winner of the match
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On November 14 2010 08:18 jalstar wrote:
No results in the OP or bracket? It seems like Nony just lost but that's all I can figure out.
edit: CHILL CASTING must watch
That's all that happened, I think they freeze brackets cause of spoilers.
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On November 14 2010 08:17 Asshat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 08:14 travis wrote:On November 14 2010 08:12 Asshat wrote:
That game 1 was the definition of overconfidence and greed by the zerg player. Taking the gold was just a terrible idea. I don't agree... it just didn't handle the terran pressure well. The gold is just too difficult to defend vs well positioned siege tanks. Yeah he certainly didn't handle it optimally but he had the advantage until then, instead he put it into jeopardy when he took an unnecessary risk by taking the gold when he could've taken the 3rd in the back instead and it would've been a much safer choice that still would preserve or increase his lead. He instead tried to go for the big jump and crashed down.
well yeah you're probably right, it would have been better to take the regular 3rd instead of the gold
but i still think he should have held the pressure fine with better positioning/control -.-
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chill again making funny noises
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On November 14 2010 08:24 7mk wrote:
chill again making funny noises
I just got home from work, but this is already an erotic experience for me. Chill's attractive voice strikes again.
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masterasia making some dumb mistakes
his macro is good but he keeps doing dumb stuff
(like letting those marines kill his gold just now..)
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Very entertaining game. Zerg player seemed a little overwhelmed, made many silly mistakes.
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masterasia had pretty bad army control but decent overall macro
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Chill mentioned twice already that Immortals do 70 damage to marauders. Someone should tell him...
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optikzero is playing pretty smart.
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optikzero is really good, i hope he keeps showing up in more and more tournys.
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Chill's commentary is so intelligent, love how he discusses things like the BoX dynamic rather than just what's happening in the game. Also he's willing to criticize the players on a higher level than identifying obvious mistakes.
Damn Chill, wish you'd cast more games.
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Ahh boxer has balls of steel, sick void ray defense
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awesome base race in game 4
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optikzero will be very solid if he has Mihai's micro.
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On November 14 2010 09:16 JWD wrote:
Chill's commentary is so intelligent, love how he discusses things like the BoX dynamic rather than just what's happening in the game. Also he's willing to criticize the players on a higher level than identifying obvious mistakes.
Damn Chill, wish you'd cast more games.
Yes yes. Please chill commentate some more.
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1 pylon on powering 3 gates and 1 robo, insane.
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How in the world can he think that was a safe build >.>
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That noobish pylon mistake will be hard to forget.
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I hope Nony didn't watch this or else he is gonna go on super tilt.
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Losing like that must be sour. But wow, definitely a "??" there.
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AhhBoxxah had to change his playstyle on the fly during that final. In game 1 and 2 his usual style really was not working, so he had to result to early aggression in which he wasn't really familiar with. GJ to both players for getting to the finals, and congrats to ahhboxxah for the big win :D
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i expected higher level of plays for the final tbh
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On November 14 2010 09:58 TicketoHELL wrote:
i expected higher level of plays for the final tbh
Better ask for a refund.
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EPT
