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zemiron
United States481 Posts
Thank you for assuming incorrect things about me. Fortunately for you, I don't do the same thing. | ||
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
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shynee
Canada180 Posts
On November 01 2010 22:42 Gudeldar wrote: You always see HuK using storm? You sure you are watching the right player? HuK uses colossus 90% of the time no matter how late the game goes, I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've seen HuK use storm. Okay fine, although Huk uses storm in PvZ every often. There are still many high level players who always transition into storm if colos is not working for them (too many vikings, corruptors, etc) You'd have to be a fool not to recognize that HT's are one of the strongest units in the game. Just like Blizzard has claimed. Nuff said... | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
On November 01 2010 22:31 zomgad wrote: middle diamond makes u at best D in bw, wouldnt speak about balance if i was D iccup player. Never really played BW - Dont know the ranking systems. What % of people are broken into each category? But for SC2 its 20/20/20/20/20 in each level - you can check sc2 ranks, There are about 10-15k people world wide that are mid diamond plus. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
The EMP vs storm discussion is also stupid, this really has been discussed to death already. The best way to look at balance is just win % over the top divisions over hundreds of games, the most recent statistics showed P still winning more then T so it is probably fine. A good thing to remember is also that T probably has a bit more top players then P simply because T WAS stronger in the previous patch. It takes time for racial distribution among the top to sort out really.. If blizz see's any problem with EMP they will probably adjust it, perhaps changing stalkers from 80/80 to 90/70. | ||
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susySquark
United States1692 Posts
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
But he wasn't as good as Sangho or Tester. Who happen to play on higher level earlier. I don't say anything about balance. I just find it stupid saying that terrans are better because they are former top BW players. This is not a good argument. JulyZerg sucks at SC2 btw | ||
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AmstAff
Germany949 Posts
On November 01 2010 22:41 Tommylew wrote: Could be because as soon as the Terran sees the observer coming he emps it and kills it? Strangely my observers don't die (only the first 1 gets sniped 80% of the time), could be because I build more than 1 and spread them over the map and don't follow the T ball so that he can see it... | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On November 01 2010 17:40 LittleeD wrote: Im going for a limb here: FoxeR > Kyrix 3-2 (I believe this will be extremely close) HopeTorture > Genius 3-1 (Genius is great, but I feel like HopeTorture has the upper hand here) Boxer < Nada 1-3 (Yes, NaDa just seems stronger from recent performance, but nothing is sure) Zenio > NesTea 3-1 (Zenio feels way stronger here, atleast seen from recent games) But overall it feels extremely hard to predict the outcome of todays matches. It could literally go anyone's way. Quoting myself from. page 4. Looking good so far. | ||
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AmishNukes
United States98 Posts
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JohnnyCash
France244 Posts
On November 01 2010 22:47 susySquark wrote: In my opinion, Nex just got outplayed in the final game. However, the banshee autowin and the thor autowin felt kind of cheap. Going a counter build order should net you an advantage yes, but not an almost guaranteed win. It was the first time I watched Starcraft II (after years of bw...) so I probably have no right to speak, but in the case of this "banshee auto-win" it just seemed to me that Genius took an awful lot of time to react both times... and sending the second banshee was a pretty smart move, even the commentators were like "it's strange to send this banshee he's gonna need it to defend" | ||
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shynee
Canada180 Posts
On November 01 2010 22:47 susySquark wrote: In my opinion, Nex just got outplayed in the final game. However, the banshee autowin and the thor autowin felt kind of cheap. Going a counter build order should net you an advantage yes, but not an almost guaranteed win. That wasn't a guaranteed win. Nex did tons of damage as well with his blink stalkers. It was his build that lost him the game as the cloak was ITR's advantage. He played the game as if he expected ITR to always open with double rax bio. But I do agree with you when you say that Nex got outplayed in the last game. The void rays just didnt do their job and too much was invested in them. Imagine if he used those resources on zealots legs and more colosos? | ||
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
Apart from that, the main problem I see with Protoss atm is that the margin for error seems so incredibly tiny that any small mistake may insta-lose you the game, which seems to be less the case for Z/T. | ||
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AmishNukes
United States98 Posts
On November 01 2010 22:38 FLuE wrote: If Nex had scouted properly that last game and had tower control he would have seen the terran army coming to his 3rd and actually stopped it easy(no medivacs even) and then it is a different game. He probably takes a 4th at that point and who knows where the game goes from there. He lost the game before that on a Thor rush, which worked perfect. When I watch these games, I try to pinpoint the moment where one side wins it or the other side loses it. And most of the times when watching the games it isn't like "Oh wow he just abused that unit/imbalance and won." Usually there is a clear moment, where one person makes a mistake or else they could have won the game. The Thor Repair BS probably made a large difference as the units just stared at the Thor instead of attacking anything. Although he was very unprepared and might not have done much better in this case had the units been designed to kill SCVs if they were in the way while attack moving. There are other times when it certainly makes a difference and the proxy thor push wouldn't be nearly as strong without that issue. Isn't it intuitive that zealots should hit anything along the way to the high priority target while on attack move? If a player actually clicks attack on the thor with zealots, their mistake, but it's silly the way it is. Blizzard hasn't even said if they intend to fix it. | ||
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Gudeldar
United States1200 Posts
On November 01 2010 22:46 shynee wrote: Okay fine, although Huk uses storm in PvZ every often. There are still many high level players who always transition into storm if colos is not working for them (too many vikings, corruptors, etc) You'd have to be a fool not to recognize that HT's are one of the strongest units in the game. Just like Blizzard has claimed. Nuff said... Yeah HT are great, assuming you manage to survive long enough to use them. Blizzard made it pretty clear they are going to nerf storm too. I wouldn't be surprised if they nerf storm and don't change Terran at all. If they do that it will probably be the final straw that makes me switch races. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
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Jotoco
Brazil1342 Posts
On November 01 2010 22:20 Sanguinarius wrote: Yeah cause EMPs travel at a speed of 2 - NOT. Its an instant spell. I would love to have ghosts roll EMP bombs at me with 2 speed. Maybe that is what blizzard will do. :-) Don't forget you can cloack your HT's and sneaky insta gib an army! | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 01 2010 22:46 Sanguinarius wrote: Never really played BW - Dont know the ranking systems. What % of people are broken into each category? But for SC2 its 20/20/20/20/20 in each level - you can check sc2 ranks, There are about 10-15k people world wide that are mid diamond plus. It's like 90% D 8% C 1.8% B 0.2% A | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
 any where that i can watch the VOD? | ||
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