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Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia973 Posts
November 01 2010 14:05 GMT
#2961
On November 01 2010 23:02 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:46 Sanguinarius wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:31 zomgad wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:28 Sanguinarius wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:24 Kishime wrote:
Note: I play random so I'm not biased but...

To everyone whining about EMP and making absurd assumptions about how much damage it does, you realize zealots, stalkers and sentries don't even have 100 shields to begin with right?


Stalkers have 80

Also, I play random. And I honestly dont remember that last time I lost to a protoss as terran. A good early timing push will destroy mid level diamond protoss and if not you can transition to 1 of about 4 different tech routes.

I am not even close to a pro, but if I can do it on my level, I am sure pros can do something just as well.


middle diamond makes u at best D in bw, wouldnt speak about balance if i was D iccup player.


Never really played BW - Dont know the ranking systems. What % of people are broken into each category?

But for SC2 its 20/20/20/20/20 in each level - you can check sc2 ranks, There are about 10-15k people world wide that are mid diamond plus.

It's like 90% D 8% C 1.8% B 0.2% A


That'd be distribution on iccup itself, which is quite 'elitist'. If you take global(including your fellow UMS/BGH/FMP/2v2/3v3/4v4/FFA/simply bad players), it'd probably be 98+% D-/D.
Scoop
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland482 Posts
November 01 2010 14:06 GMT
#2962
On November 01 2010 22:07 CubEdIn wrote:
Mind blown.

ITR is god.


Yes, beating the only Protoss left in the round of 8. An achievement of a lifetime.
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 01 2010 14:07 GMT
#2963
On November 01 2010 22:45 zemiron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:38 Squeegy wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:22 zemiron wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:12 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:10 zemiron wrote:
Wow, it's looking like a pretty boring semifinals. Three Terrans and a Zerg. Ugh... I'll watch, but I'm not really that excited.


if you're not excited about Boxer or Nada, you're not excited about Starcraft


Or I have a different opinion than everyone else. I didn't come to Starcraft 2 from Brood War, so Boxer and Nada don't mean much to me. I prefer mixed matchups instead of mirror matchups regardless of who is playing. And please don't flame me because I'm a "noob" fan or whatever.


You're not excited about Starcraft.


Thank you for assuming incorrect things about me. Fortunately for you, I don't do the same thing.


I didn't come from Brood War either and I for one am still excited to see two amazing players do a bo5 mirror match.

I can understand disliking ZvZ because it's so often such a retarded bling vs bling back and forth that never ever gets to a late game, but TvT is nearly a guaranteed 3+ base game.

I guess TvT is boring if you prefer the paper/rock/scissors BO vs BO games to long strategic games where people fight for control of territory instead of having a "can he build 5 colossi before the other guy makes 6 vikings?" contest.
whatsgrackalackin420
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
November 01 2010 14:10 GMT
#2964
BNet ladder distribution is 7/13/17/20/43
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
November 01 2010 14:12 GMT
#2965
On November 01 2010 22:22 zemiron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:12 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:10 zemiron wrote:
Wow, it's looking like a pretty boring semifinals. Three Terrans and a Zerg. Ugh... I'll watch, but I'm not really that excited.


if you're not excited about Boxer or Nada, you're not excited about Starcraft


Or I have a different opinion than everyone else. I didn't come to Starcraft 2 from Brood War, so Boxer and Nada don't mean much to me. I prefer mixed matchups instead of mirror matchups regardless of who is playing. And please don't flame me because I'm a "noob" fan or whatever.


Maybe you should catch up on your SC then because Boxer vs Nada is like Jordan vs Magic.

They are legends.
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
November 01 2010 14:14 GMT
#2966
On November 01 2010 23:07 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:45 zemiron wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:38 Squeegy wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:22 zemiron wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:12 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:10 zemiron wrote:
Wow, it's looking like a pretty boring semifinals. Three Terrans and a Zerg. Ugh... I'll watch, but I'm not really that excited.


if you're not excited about Boxer or Nada, you're not excited about Starcraft


Or I have a different opinion than everyone else. I didn't come to Starcraft 2 from Brood War, so Boxer and Nada don't mean much to me. I prefer mixed matchups instead of mirror matchups regardless of who is playing. And please don't flame me because I'm a "noob" fan or whatever.


You're not excited about Starcraft.


Thank you for assuming incorrect things about me. Fortunately for you, I don't do the same thing.


I didn't come from Brood War either and I for one am still excited to see two amazing players do a bo5 mirror match.

I can understand disliking ZvZ because it's so often such a retarded bling vs bling back and forth that never ever gets to a late game, but TvT is nearly a guaranteed 3+ base game.

I guess TvT is boring if you prefer the paper/rock/scissors BO vs BO games to long strategic games where people fight for control of territory instead of having a "can he build 5 colossi before the other guy makes 6 vikings?" contest.


Just because you don't understand the matchups doesn't mean they aren't good for people who do. I play random so I enjoy watching ALL matchups, yes including the 'dreaded mirror matches.' There are those who would say PvX is boring, and you would probably disagree. Thus, it's all a matter of opinion, and when it comes to the final 4, there's a fairly decent chance 1 race will be missing. If it happens to be the race you want to see, tough luck, but no one owes you anything.
lacho_u
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria535 Posts
November 01 2010 14:14 GMT
#2967
On November 01 2010 23:12 mindspike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:22 zemiron wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:12 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:10 zemiron wrote:
Wow, it's looking like a pretty boring semifinals. Three Terrans and a Zerg. Ugh... I'll watch, but I'm not really that excited.


if you're not excited about Boxer or Nada, you're not excited about Starcraft


Or I have a different opinion than everyone else. I didn't come to Starcraft 2 from Brood War, so Boxer and Nada don't mean much to me. I prefer mixed matchups instead of mirror matchups regardless of who is playing. And please don't flame me because I'm a "noob" fan or whatever.


Maybe you should catch up on your SC then because Boxer vs Nada is like Jordan vs Magic.

They are legends.


Fact. Boxer vs Nada like 100 times bigger then Jaedong vs Flash :D
Power is nothing without control
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
November 01 2010 14:17 GMT
#2968
ITR won?
What was the Final Score?
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 14:23:23
November 01 2010 14:20 GMT
#2969
On November 01 2010 23:17 pyro19 wrote:
ITR won?
What was the Final Score?
3-1 ITR. It was a pretty good series, or it would have been if it didn't mean that there are yet again no Protoss in the Ro4.

ITR has been overshadowed a bit with his disappointing performance in the finals last GSL, and with NaDa and Boxer playing as well. But the dude is deadly, and creative.
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
November 01 2010 14:20 GMT
#2970
On November 01 2010 23:17 pyro19 wrote:
ITR won?
What was the Final Score?

3-1
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
MatiNO
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia327 Posts
November 01 2010 14:22 GMT
#2971
On November 01 2010 23:14 lacho_u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 23:12 mindspike wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:22 zemiron wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:12 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:10 zemiron wrote:
Wow, it's looking like a pretty boring semifinals. Three Terrans and a Zerg. Ugh... I'll watch, but I'm not really that excited.


if you're not excited about Boxer or Nada, you're not excited about Starcraft


Or I have a different opinion than everyone else. I didn't come to Starcraft 2 from Brood War, so Boxer and Nada don't mean much to me. I prefer mixed matchups instead of mirror matchups regardless of who is playing. And please don't flame me because I'm a "noob" fan or whatever.


Maybe you should catch up on your SC then because Boxer vs Nada is like Jordan vs Magic.

They are legends.


Fact. Boxer vs Nada like 100 times bigger then Jaedong vs Flash :D



Fact. Just SlayerS_BoxeR himself is bigger than both jaedong and flash xD.
famz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States78 Posts
November 01 2010 14:23 GMT
#2972
Is anyone restreaming this?
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
November 01 2010 14:25 GMT
#2973
On November 01 2010 23:12 mindspike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:22 zemiron wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:12 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:10 zemiron wrote:
Wow, it's looking like a pretty boring semifinals. Three Terrans and a Zerg. Ugh... I'll watch, but I'm not really that excited.


if you're not excited about Boxer or Nada, you're not excited about Starcraft


Or I have a different opinion than everyone else. I didn't come to Starcraft 2 from Brood War, so Boxer and Nada don't mean much to me. I prefer mixed matchups instead of mirror matchups regardless of who is playing. And please don't flame me because I'm a "noob" fan or whatever.


Maybe you should catch up on your SC then because Boxer vs Nada is like Jordan vs Magic.

They are legends.


No, this is just factually incorrect. Jordan vs Magic is like Boxer vs Nada, because the latter pair is cooler, better, and has more fans following it.

I am glad Foxer won and ITR remembered how to destroy scrubs.
One Love
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 14:26:27
November 01 2010 14:26 GMT
#2974
Your next opponent is HopeTorture.
- Even though HopeTorture was a semi-finalist from last season, I think it’ll be easy matchup because he is weaker than some of the Terrans I know. Also because sSKS didn’t qualify this season, I think if I make it to the finals I feel like I can win.
So much for that.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
November 01 2010 14:26 GMT
#2975
On November 01 2010 23:23 famz wrote:
Is anyone restreaming this?


It's like 2$ for a 1 day pass dude
W4nteD-
Profile Joined November 2010
Vietnam15 Posts
November 01 2010 14:29 GMT
#2976
Lets not talk about imbalance here
Lets talk about history and player

Bonjwa SC BW: 4 terran + 1 zerg
Genius said toss is imba but GSL 1 and GSL 2: no toss in semi finals althought toss qualifies more than zerg in both
Now look at SC BW: Flash and Jaedong

Toss players are just bad(the race is strong, in fact a bit strong that blizz gonna nerf toss late game), or put in other way, toss top players not incredibly good compared to legendary zerg or terran, as history goes.

Nothing lasts forever
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
November 01 2010 14:30 GMT
#2977
On November 01 2010 23:26 koppik wrote:
Show nested quote +
Your next opponent is HopeTorture.
- Even though HopeTorture was a semi-finalist from last season, I think it’ll be easy matchup because he is weaker than some of the Terrans I know. Also because sSKS didn’t qualify this season, I think if I make it to the finals I feel like I can win.
So much for that.


Genius had no chance, especially since Rainbow trains with Cella and his awesome 13 gate build. Cella plug because I can!
Priphea
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
November 01 2010 14:30 GMT
#2978
One step closer to Foxer Vs. Boxer finals mmmmmm.
Logo
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 01 2010 14:32 GMT
#2979
On November 01 2010 23:14 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 23:07 kojinshugi wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:45 zemiron wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:38 Squeegy wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:22 zemiron wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:12 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:10 zemiron wrote:
Wow, it's looking like a pretty boring semifinals. Three Terrans and a Zerg. Ugh... I'll watch, but I'm not really that excited.


if you're not excited about Boxer or Nada, you're not excited about Starcraft


Or I have a different opinion than everyone else. I didn't come to Starcraft 2 from Brood War, so Boxer and Nada don't mean much to me. I prefer mixed matchups instead of mirror matchups regardless of who is playing. And please don't flame me because I'm a "noob" fan or whatever.


You're not excited about Starcraft.


Thank you for assuming incorrect things about me. Fortunately for you, I don't do the same thing.


I didn't come from Brood War either and I for one am still excited to see two amazing players do a bo5 mirror match.

I can understand disliking ZvZ because it's so often such a retarded bling vs bling back and forth that never ever gets to a late game, but TvT is nearly a guaranteed 3+ base game.

I guess TvT is boring if you prefer the paper/rock/scissors BO vs BO games to long strategic games where people fight for control of territory instead of having a "can he build 5 colossi before the other guy makes 6 vikings?" contest.


Just because you don't understand the matchups doesn't mean they aren't good for people who do. I play random so I enjoy watching ALL matchups, yes including the 'dreaded mirror matches.' There are those who would say PvX is boring, and you would probably disagree. Thus, it's all a matter of opinion, and when it comes to the final 4, there's a fairly decent chance 1 race will be missing. If it happens to be the race you want to see, tough luck, but no one owes you anything.

Same for me, I really like sc2 as a show, I usualy like everymatchup and I think there are good games in all matchups

Anyway, the Foxer VODs are up since like 20mn, and
View : 12,409
HuHEN
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom514 Posts
November 01 2010 14:35 GMT
#2980
On November 01 2010 23:29 W4nteD- wrote:
Lets not talk about imbalance here
Lets talk about history and player

Bonjwa SC BW: 4 terran + 1 zerg
Genius said toss is imba but GSL 1 and GSL 2: no toss in semi finals althought toss qualifies more than zerg in both
Now look at SC BW: Flash and Jaedong

Toss players are just bad(the race is strong, in fact a bit strong that blizz gonna nerf toss late game), or put in other way, toss top players not incredibly good compared to legendary zerg or terran, as history goes.



Good argument, yep, although there are more toss players than zergs, and they practice more or less the same, somehow all the truely talented players just choose terran and zerg, sounds logical.
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