EPTDOWN WITH THE CLIENT FOR THE PROFESSIONAL DIVISION ! I am not worried about these teams cheating, most of them I know already, or know of them. If we are going to reveal someone to be cheating it will be done by assessing replays and confirming evidence, not finding programs on their computer !
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
DOWN WITH THE CLIENT FOR THE PROFESSIONAL DIVISION ! I am not worried about these teams cheating, most of them I know already, or know of them. If we are going to reveal someone to be cheating it will be done by assessing replays and confirming evidence, not finding programs on their computer ! | ||
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
On December 07 2010 03:27 NoHrt wrote: You might want to elaborate on your snarky comment. As obviously CEVO is listening to the community for how to run their StarCraft 2 league. Maybe some insight behind your comment could help the league and how it should be ran, as it seems they are more than willing to make changes to how the StarCraft 2 league works. They aren't listening to the community at all or even doing research on other team leagues if they somehow rationalized a BO3 on the same map. So far CEVO has just tried to take FPS rules and put them on SC2. I want to give CEVO a chance, but they seem to be out of their comfort zone and not taking their time to figure out the SC2 community. This entire league seems forced so far. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 07 2010 06:55 Alou wrote: They aren't listening to the community at all or even doing research on other team leagues if they somehow rationalized a BO3 on the same map. So far CEVO has just tried to take FPS rules and put them on SC2. I want to give CEVO a chance, but they seem to be out of their comfort zone and not taking their time to figure out the SC2 community. This entire league seems forced so far. I dont' see the problem with Meta being the starting map for all matches. If it were steppes or delta I could see the argument but meta is considered one of the better balanced maps except for close positions in tvz/pvz. | ||
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
On December 07 2010 07:04 blade55555 wrote: I dont' see the problem with Meta being the starting map for all matches. If it were steppes or delta I could see the argument but meta is considered one of the better balanced maps except for close positions in tvz/pvz. Meta being the starting map for all matches would be fine. Rotating through the maps each week for this would be fine. But having one map three times in a row (as in Delta, Delta, Delta) is bad. | ||
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sechkie
United States334 Posts
1. the current method is acceptable with it being the home team is allowed to choose a player after knowing which player the away team uses. 2. Another method could be that there are multiple maps allowed for the tournament. Home team chooses a map, visitor chooses a player. home team chooses a player or something along this sort. This would still give the home team the advantage but also provide more variety. I understand that in fps such as counterstrike every team would play the same map every week, but I do not think that the same map bo3 would be quite the same as a fps in terms of excitement. I think that the BO1 would be more exciting and nerveracking. Just my opinion. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
example: Mappool: Metalopolis, Lost Temple, Steppes of War, Blistering Sands, Desert oasis, Jungle Basin, Delta Quadrant. Home Team : Veto Desert Oasis, Blistering Sands Away Team: Player A - Metalopolis Player B - Lost Temple Player C - Steppes of War Player D - Jungle Basin Where they choose which race plays which map, now the Home team would choose the opponents Player A - Metalopolis - Player D Player B - Lost Temple - Player B Player C - Steppes of War - Player A Player D - Jungle Basin - Player C With the left over map being Delta Quadrant (possible forced ace match map?!?!) Just an idea that goes along with Sechkies idea of teams choosing maps  . | ||
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Ic3d
Canada187 Posts
As someone mentioned yes, CEVO is generally a FPS league but as you can see from their site they are really wanting to branch into DOTA and SC2. This is season 1, cut them some slack. Please make valid/supported posts about the rules. Keep the flame out of it. Anything that grows NA E-Sports (read SC2) as CEVO has the possibility to do is a good thing and should be embraced. Sure there will be bumps but if you look at the track record of CEVO I dont think you can argue that they do not know what they are doing. Keep it clean and lets make this league a success so we can up the anti in the future. | ||
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soulcrusher
United States143 Posts
The first map will be the scheduled map for that week. The loser of the first map will pick the next map from the map pool. If a 3rd game is required then the loser of game 2 will pick a map from the map pool. Map Pool: Lost Temple Xel’Naga Caverns Metalopolis Scrap Station Blistering Sands Steppes of War Delta Quadrant Shakuras Plateau Jungle Basin | ||
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NrG.NeverExpo
Canada2114 Posts
On December 07 2010 08:44 soulcrusher wrote: All games will be best of three. The first map will be the scheduled map for that week. The loser of the first map will pick the next map from the map pool. If a 3rd game is required then the loser of game 2 will pick a map from the map pool. Map Pool: Lost Temple Xel’Naga Caverns Metalopolis Scrap Station Blistering Sands Steppes of War Delta Quadrant Shakuras Plateau Jungle Basin This is great news! Thanks for being such an understanding admin team. The community speaks and you guys have answered time and time again. I love it. This will commence once both weeks of prelims are done yet? so we play the old format this week? | ||
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soulcrusher
United States143 Posts
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byobong7
United States207 Posts
On December 07 2010 06:51 Holcan wrote: RAGEQUIT.TV will be casting ours tonight and the admins never said anything about it, so i assume its fine to have outside casting companies, as well as the CEVO branded casters. DOWN WITH THE CLIENT FOR THE PROFESSIONAL DIVISION ! I am not worried about these teams cheating, most of them I know already, or know of them. If we are going to reveal someone to be cheating it will be done by assessing replays and confirming evidence, not finding programs on their computer ! As for the steaming you can have people cast it but it MUST be on a 5+ minute delay, we already talked to you opponents about this that is why we 'never said anything about it' to you since you already agreed to it with them. We were told Ragequit.tv can provide a delay so we told them it was fine. The problem is most popular streaming sites don't support delaying, you need special software or hardware setup to pull it off. If people agree to streams and then complain to us about 'cheating' we will have to change our policy to no outside streams at all. The client is not going away, and it is not up for debate for any of the divisions. We have used it for many many years in many games. This is the internet, people will cheat and we aren't going to rely on JUST watching replays to determine that. On December 07 2010 08:44 soulcrusher wrote: All games will be best of three. The first map will be the scheduled map for that week. The loser of the first map will pick the next map from the map pool. If a 3rd game is required then the loser of game 2 will pick a map from the map pool. Map Pool: Lost Temple Xel’Naga Caverns Metalopolis Scrap Station Blistering Sands Steppes of War Delta Quadrant Shakuras Plateau Jungle Basin Also note that you cannot pick a map that has already been played previously. | ||
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v1dom
159 Posts
This is great news! Thanks for being such an understanding admin team. The community speaks and you guys have answered time and time again. I love it. This will commence once both weeks of prelims are done yet? so we play the old format this week? Agreed 100%. Thanks for hearing the will of the masses (even though there was some clear bad manner with some of the posts). I think the league will be better off with this format. | ||
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nkwd
United States99 Posts
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Ic3d
Canada187 Posts
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bNy
84 Posts
They've worked around blizzards stupid entrance fee rule that way. Btw, how could it be legal to forbid entrance fee? I mean, if you host an event of any kind, shouldn't you be able to sell tickets for it... All these big companies, EA, Blizzard, ubisoft and so on seems to create some weird rules/user agreement for their games that probably wouldn't work IRL, but hey.. we are INTRAWEB we can write whatever we want! | ||
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Andavari
Egypt18 Posts
On December 09 2010 10:48 Ic3d wrote: CEVO-P Team RS vs Stoic E-Sports going down at http://l2sc.tv @ 6pm PST. GGs Guys | ||
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CEVO Nelson
United States105 Posts
On December 09 2010 16:54 bNy wrote: Do like ESL, create premium membership! They've worked around blizzards stupid entrance fee rule that way. Btw, how could it be legal to forbid entrance fee? I mean, if you host an event of any kind, shouldn't you be able to sell tickets for it... All these big companies, EA, Blizzard, ubisoft and so on seems to create some weird rules/user agreement for their games that probably wouldn't work IRL, but hey.. we are INTRAWEB we can write whatever we want! I understand where you are coming from, but I also understand Blizzard. If a popular artist was holding a concert at a venue near you, they sell tickets. The venue gets a percentage of that, however, the artist also gets their cut. It is the fee that is charged to the venue for bringing that persons popularity to their establishment. Blizzard is the same way, they will let us charge entry fees, however they want $10,000 per event held. That is a sizable chunk of change.. So... as of now, we will continue with the free events. We are in constant contact with Blizzard's licensing department, there might be some change in the near future. We will just have to see. | ||
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huyNh
Canada366 Posts
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Torbull
United States15 Posts
On October 30 2010 14:10 CEVO Nelson wrote: I am not going to contribute to this post turning into a flame war, but 1.6 and cz is dying everywhere. The lack of competition has nothing to do with how our organization is run, but that the game itself is losing competitive players. Even ESEA has less of a turnout each season. If anyone has an issue with the client, they need to contact me and I will get it fixed for them. You shouldn't speculate as to how ESEA is performing. We had more CS / CSS / TF2 players competing in our most recent Season 7 than in any season prior to that. We're excited at ESEA for our expansion into SC2 and have some very cool stuff planned  | ||
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CEVO Nelson
United States105 Posts
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