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Starcraft 2 Season 1 Presented by Zowie - Registration Opens - $1,300 Prize Pool!
CEVO is pleased to announce the opening of registration for the first season of Starcraft 2 presented by Zowie. Season 1 features $1,300 in guaranteed prizes for teams competing across the various skill divisions.
Registration for Starcraft 2 - Season 1 will open on Thursday, October 28th at midnight and remain open until Sunday, November 28th at midnight.
League Format:
This will be a pro league event. It will consist of teams of 4 players. Each player will compete in a 1v1 match against a member of the opposing team. After all four players complete their match, if the record stands as 2-2, each captain will pick one player of their choice from their team to compete in a final 1v1 for the win. You may have more than four players on each team as backups, however, only one of the original four competitors may play the tie breaking match.
The captain of the away team must post the list of players that will be competing, and in which order they will be playing in match communication. This must be done before match play begins.
How To Register:
All players will need to register a personal CEVO user account to participate in CEVO events. If you do not already have one, click "register now" under the CEVO Members section of the website and follow the instructions.
Team Captains:
The Team Captain or Manager is responsible for registering their team for the event. To sign your current team up for this event, login to your personal user account then go to "teams"->"view my teams" (or click "Manage My Teams" on the main account page). Click on the "manage" link corresponding to your team and then click "Sign Team Up for a CEVO Event".
If you are a Team Captain needing to create a team, login to your personal user account then go to "teams"->"create a team" (or click "Create a Team" on the main account page).
Once the team is created/registered for the event, each team member may join the roster by logging into their personal user account on the website and clicking “Join A Roster”.
Team Players:
In order to join a roster, your team captain must have already registered your team for this event. Once that is done, to join the roster, login to your personal user account and click "teams"->"Join a Roster" (or simply click "Join a Roster" on the main account page).
On the Join Roster page, choose this event from the drop-down menu, then type all or part of the team name and click "Find Team". When the search finishes, click the "join" button corresponding to your team.
Event Details:
The event will consist of three skill divisions, Open (CEVO-O), Main (CEVO-M), and Professional (CEVO-P).
The Open Division (CEVO-O) is open to all teams. It is conferences: Atlantic, Central, and Pacific.
There will be two matches per week with Match Deadline Days on Mondays and Thursdays.
CEVO-O is designed specifically for new and experienced teams seeking serious competitive play.
The Main Division (CEVO-M) is application only for teams that have not earned a spot from the previous CEVO season or other CEVO events. It is comprised of one National conference. CEVO-M showcases highly talented teams competing for $650 in guaranteed prizes. There will be two matches per week with Match Deadline Days on Mondays and Thursdays.
The Main Division is reserved for only very highly-skilled and experienced teams seeking serious, near-professional competition.
• 1st Place: 5x Zowie Hammer USB Headset ($395 value)
• 2nd Place: 5x Zowie SpawN Mousepad P-TF ($145 value)
• 3rd Place: 5x Zowie SpawN Mousepad P-TF ($145 value)
The Professional Division (CEVO-P) will consist of the most talented teams in North America, as determined by Blizzards placement skill levels or earned incumbency from the previous season of CEVO-P. The Professional Division has only one National Region. Teams will be competing for a whopping $650 in guaranteed prizes! Professional teams will play two matches per week on Monday and Thursday nights.
• 1st Place: 5x Zowie Hammer USB Headset ($395 value)
• 2nd Place: 5x Zowie SpawN Mousepad P-TF ($145 value)
• 3rd Place: 5x Zowie SpawN Mousepad P-TF ($145 value)
Main and Pro Division Applications
If you are not initially invited to the Main or Professional divisions, do no dispair because we still have room for more teams, they will just be decided via applications. In order to submit an application, you must sign your team up in the Open division and get four (4) rostered members at least.
NOTE: A news post will be released soon explaining the application process in detail for both divisions.
CEVO Support:
For any help, questions or assistance please contact CEVO Support. We are available at http://support.cevo.com and on Ventrilo at texas.cevo.nationvoice.com port 4000.
We’re looking forward to our first exciting season! Remember to check our website regularly for current registration and event updates.
### CEVO would like to thank NationVoice Communications (top quality ventrilo servers and service) for their support of Starcraft 2 Season 1. CEVO LLC.
Are You Game?
www.cevo.com
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I'm so excited for this even though I don't have a team :/. I hope a lot of people participate.
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What a lot of counter strike players did when they were teamless is look for a team on CEVO's forum. Perspective teams could recruit their players that way. You are welcome to do that. I am sure that this forum should have some sort of team seeking forum. Maybe you could create one as long as it fits into TL's rules and guidelines.
Good luck in the event.
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Pretty awkward prizes to be honest. Old/near dead games have $3000 prize purse for the open div and a new exciting massively played game gets $650 for the top?
I understand your rationale, I really do. You want to test the waters. Got it. Problem: You need a better investment to garner the support you are looking for. HAS to be a sponsor somewhere who'd help you out. Entrance fees even
Regardless I loved CEVO when I played 1.6 and Source, so game on!
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Blizzard does not allow anyone to charge entry fees. If we were able to, there would be the current prizes plus over $3,000 in cash.
The problem is that many sponsors are not spending money right now. They are seeing what the economy is going to do and the outcome of the election before a large amount of money is spent. On top of that, Blizzard not letting anyone charge for events hinder our ability to offer large prize pots.
When Blizzard releases their kung foo grip on the game, it will be significantly more rewarding to compete.
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On October 30 2010 03:34 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Blizzard does not allow anyone to charge entry fees. If we were able to, there would be the current prizes plus over $3,000 in cash.
The problem is that many sponsors are not spending money right now. They are seeing what the economy is going to do and the outcome of the election before a large amount of money is spent. On top of that, Blizzard not letting anyone charge for events hinder our ability to offer large prize pots.
When Blizzard releases their kung foo grip on the game, it will be significantly more rewarding to compete.
Yea that's total bullshit if you can't charge entry fees. What a joke.
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Should make a forum so people can match up and make teams i dont think alot of people have teams or clans. Great idea though
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On October 30 2010 03:35 Achilles wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 03:34 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Blizzard does not allow anyone to charge entry fees. If we were able to, there would be the current prizes plus over $3,000 in cash.
The problem is that many sponsors are not spending money right now. They are seeing what the economy is going to do and the outcome of the election before a large amount of money is spent. On top of that, Blizzard not letting anyone charge for events hinder our ability to offer large prize pots.
When Blizzard releases their kung foo grip on the game, it will be significantly more rewarding to compete. Yea that's total bullshit if you can't charge entry fees. What a joke.
Yeah, but it's not a joke when a shitload of tournament organizers are using your game and not paying up money they promised (google CPL).
Blizzard is going with a closed and slow approach, it's working fine for now.
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On October 30 2010 03:45 s.a.y wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 03:35 Achilles wrote:On October 30 2010 03:34 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Blizzard does not allow anyone to charge entry fees. If we were able to, there would be the current prizes plus over $3,000 in cash.
The problem is that many sponsors are not spending money right now. They are seeing what the economy is going to do and the outcome of the election before a large amount of money is spent. On top of that, Blizzard not letting anyone charge for events hinder our ability to offer large prize pots.
When Blizzard releases their kung foo grip on the game, it will be significantly more rewarding to compete. Yea that's total bullshit if you can't charge entry fees. What a joke. Yeah, but it's not a joke when a shitload of tournament organizers are using your game and not paying up money they promised (google CPL). Blizzard is going with a closed and slow approach, it's working fine for now.
What a misuse of the CPL example. I shouldn't even have to explain how out of place that was.
CPL was CEVO's main competitor and had nothing to do with Blizzard not allowing people to use entrance fees. CPL not paying prizes didn't effect the prizes of other events either, nor did it even raise speculation of Valve refusing to allow tournaments to charge entrance fees. Blizzard could allow CEVO to charge entrance fees (usually $15-25 per player) and regardless of whether or not they actually paid out, this would not reflect Blizzard's handling of the issue (hint: it'd cripple the organization as it did CPL).
I'm lost as to what your point was.
Other than that, this is just a way that Blizzard can make money off of the game @ Blizzcon and MLG. MLG will pay for the exclusivity of the game, which will essentially kill any amateur leagues' prizes. Then again DTV's CGS did this and CEVO was still allowed to charge entry fees and pay out at the amateur level. Blizzard is just gonna rinse MLG for as much as they can.
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Can't wait to see this going I definitely want to get my Team into this ASAP!! Thanks again for the post.
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glad to see a huge team league =D gj CEVO
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awesome I've been part of CEVO for a long time cant wait to join up for sc2!
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I don't wanna bash cevo, but as someone who has played in cevo for over 2 years (1.6) a lot of their players switch from cevo to esea just because they are very loosely organized, their client is very buggy and many people complained about how badly they would lag on it, and their support is very mediocre. I once had a problem with their client and the admin in their vent server just told me to reformat and after looking at the logs said he had no idea what was wrong. So many matches my team had to play 4v5 without me. I am not affiliated with either company esea/cevo but I'm just saying that the cevo 1.6 divisions are dying out because how badly its run, and the cz divisions are breaking down into smaller divisions every year before making everyone play central and everyone lagging.
Hopefully they got their shit together for sc2 tho.
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I am not going to contribute to this post turning into a flame war, but 1.6 and cz is dying everywhere. The lack of competition has nothing to do with how our organization is run, but that the game itself is losing competitive players. Even ESEA has less of a turnout each season.
If anyone has an issue with the client, they need to contact me and I will get it fixed for them.
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looking for a team! Zerg player, 1300 pt diamond.
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Oooh this looks fun, a lot of CSL teams should participate in this. Cevo is well organized, and the online match making system is quite effective(as opposed to doing it the old fashioned add and hope they respond way).
This could get pretty big if all the big name teams participate and the prizes improve. When they say $650 in guaranteed prizes, hardware isn't exactly what people want.
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Why is M and P getting the same prizes if one is supposedly better than the others? Good luck with this!
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will it require using cmn....?
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On October 30 2010 15:01 s2pid_loser wrote:
will it require using cmn....?
Yes, you will be required to use CMN3.
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This isn't about CEVO vs ESEA, and considering ESEA has done nothing for SC I don't think that discussion even belongs on Teamliquid. What ESEA does with SC2 isn't really that much of a concern anyway there are plenty of events out there to 'compete' with. We will run the best event we can under blizzards conditions. If we mess up with something tell us and we will do everything we can to improve upon it. This is our first SC2 season but we've already learned a lot from the 3 tournaments we have run with SC2 and we will learn a lot more from this season.
As far as the prizes go Nelson already said its hard to compare our prizes from one game to the next since for Counter-strike we can charge entry fees for each player (and then put all those entry fees back into the prize pool) our SC prizes just don't compare right now. However as we run more SC events and blizzard, hopefully, loosens their strict licensing agreements for tournaments we will increase the prize pools over time. If you want to have the fun of building a team and competing in a season to see how you do, don't worry about the prizes just enjoy the event for what it is.
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Why are entry fees needed for prizes? ESL , ZOTAC, etc don't charge entry fees and yet they offer prizes.
For an organization that lists about 20 sponsors, I'm kinda confused as to why there aren't any funds to provide real prizes. It just seems kinda weird that the best an organization as big as CEVO can provide is some mousepads. What do your sponsors provide, if not funding and products for events? And based on your claim that your cash prizes come almost exclusively from entry fee - I dunno, things don't seem to add up.
Either you have some really one-sided relationship with sponsors, or there are things unaccounted for.
Either way, it's nice to see CEVO get into SC2... but I dunno, seems like a lot of effort for teams to fight for a couple of headsets/mousepads oo!
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cant you just make a sub site for sc2 on cevo then charge an annual subscription to it and crank that into the prizepots over seasons ? ;o
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Even membership fees go under the "charging for a sc2 event" description. We would be unable to charge membership fees. Realistically there is noway we will be able to have a paid event until Blizzard gives us the go ahead.
Xeris, Nobody is forcing you to compete. If you don't feel that playing in a structured event is worth your time, don't do it. Keep playing the Blizzard ladders. You may not be happy with "crummy" headsets and mouse pads, but they are still free..
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This sounds exciting, I can't wait.
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Where can we find the Official Rules,
Playing times and maps and other info regarding contacting each other,
Site looks very busy and cluttered, its kind of hard to navigate.
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On November 01 2010 03:12 dahornnn wrote:
cant you just make a sub site for sc2 on cevo then charge an annual subscription to it and crank that into the prizepots over seasons ? ;o
That's actually a really good idea, hopefully someone will look into it.
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SC2 Season 1 - Main and Professional Division Applications
Registration has already opened for this event and it is now time to open up applications for the Main and Professional Divisions. The Main division will consist of 60 teams with moveups based upon past tournament and league experience. The Professional Division will be comprised of the top 16 teams in North America based on the same criteria as the Main division. All teams are welcome to apply for either division through our application process.
Main Applications:
Teams that have not qualified yet, and are interested in competing in the Main Division can apply via email.
To apply, teams must be signed up in the Open division with at least 4 "@ready" members on their roster.
Please send the following to Applications@cevo.com to apply.
Please Title your email in this format: SC2 Season 1 - Main Application - Team (TeamName)
1. Team Name
2. Link to CEVO team page. (Can be found on the standings)
3. Team Experience / Accomplishments (CEVO, other leagues/tournaments, other games, etc..)
4. Why you feel that your team deserves to be invited into the division.
Professional Division Applications:
Teams that have not qualified yet, and are interested in competing in the Professional Division can apply via email. CEVO staff will be inviting the top eight (8) teams to the division, and the other eight (8) spots will be filled with application teams.
To apply, teams must be signed up in the Open division with at least 4 "@ready" members on their roster.
Please send the following to Applications@cevo.com to apply.
Please Title your email in this format: SC2 Season 1 - Professional Application - Team (TeamName)
1. Team Name
2. Link to CEVO team page. (Can be found on the standings)
3. Team Experience / Accomplishments (CEVO, other leagues/tournaments, other games, etc..)
4. Why you feel that your team deserves to be invited into the division.
5. Who are your core four (4) players and what are their individual accomplishments.
NOTE: ALL application move-ups will occur on Monday, November 29th, 2010. If you have any questions regarding the application process, feel free to contact CEVO Support at http://support.cevo.com.
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so when will this event start?
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I think cevo deserves a lot of credit and should get support. I also think its important to not compare this to ESEA.
ESEA has a lot of nice features and it would be great to have a league there too but also consider you have to pay for a subscription on top of tourney fees.
Also, Ive come to be a little jaded about esea. I currently participate in the TF2 league and for the last 2 or 3 seasons, they've been giving increased demands about the number of teams that must pay and compete in order for TF2 to be a game they support. I think it was like 45 teams, then 50, and 60 this season.
On top of that after the requirements were met, the player base asked for improved client and servers (the client is pretty much useless in detecting any cheats for TF2, every person that has been banned (3) has been caught by spectators or banned for account sharing...and the servers are absolutely bottom tier) they basically told the community that CS was the focus and they wouldnt devote resources to TF2 since its player base wasn't as big.
That was really nice to hear right after you threatened to shut down service for the game unless a minimum of 420 people (6 starters 1 backup) signed up for monthly fees and the tournament. now 2 months into the season, there is predictably nothing improved. The only time they update the software is after updates (server updates only, not improved client) and the clients average about 25% worse ping and packet loss then medium quality servers in the same area.
The worst thing was they're total disregard of players complaints. These were paying customers and they were basically told your not important, CS is.
check out this customer service:
Kane's attitude is horrible, this is how he regards his paying customers and the tf2 community in general. http://img146.imageshack.us/f/wrongo.jpg/ I'd reference the thread by enigma on esea, but it appears to have been deleted. Point 2: There are articles that you've written on that site that I have trouble finding without using a direct link. And no one uses it. Point 3: Your quote of $11 is misleading, you totally discount the cost of premium. Premium is $6.95 a month, but the season goes for about three months so it's about $20.85 ($19.95 if you get the three month premium). And if you're deep into playoffs you'll probably have to pay for another month. I wasn't able to find a page that has the league fee price, so I'll take your word that it is $11. So your cost of $11 is actually $11 + $19.95 = $30.95 (+ $6.95 if you're deep into playoffs =$37.90) Now is $30 really that much? No, but don't tell us that it's $11, when in reality it's not. Now you might say that, we get pugs and scrims for the cost of that $20, but no on uses that. Maybe during the season new teams will use those services when they are forced to pay for the cost of premium, who knows. Meh, if you want to call us pussies because we don't like being strong-armed and disregarded by lpkane, then go ahead. I'll vote with my money. -breather (an invite player who had played in every season of ESEA)
or this:
All I want is Torbull or ANYONE else from esea to ask us in a courteous manner and listen to our complaints instead of insulting us and still expecting us to pay them money. i paid for 3 seasons of esea, sometimes for multiple players on my team, without saying a word. then when i saw how lpkane reacted to enigma's reasonable request(give us what we pay for), i started trying to justify paying HIM the money. no, i don't give a damn how much the league fee is. if it was $1 i would still have a problem giving it to that guy. and after that thread he tried to talk down to us telling us it's our fault and that we're being unreasonable and rude, and then almost immediately afterwards things magically started improving. i got the message that whining was the way to get things done, and he basically told us it was: http://img146.imageshack.us/i/wrongo.jpg/
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On November 03 2010 10:46 iG.Stealth wrote:
so when will this event start?
The plan is to start early december with a break for the holidays/new years.
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On October 31 2010 08:10 CEVO Nelson wrote:Yes, you will be required to use CMN3.
So you're still using that pile of garbage client that requires a packaged distribution of java for obfuscation?
Some things never change, it seems.
When your match client uses more resources than some games do, something is wrong.
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I can't even remember my username and tracked my email account and found emails from cevo but none with my username on it. Ehhh....guess I'll use a some other email
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Why is an adress required to register? I get the phone number, though I'm still hesitant... But what do they use the adress for?
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On November 04 2010 08:31 Tin_Foil wrote:
Why is an adress required to register? I get the phone number, though I'm still hesitant... But what do they use the adress for?
The ONLY person that has the ability to see your address is the owner of CEVO. It is there for prize distribution. When you win something, we have your address to mail it to you. Even myself, as a head of game, can only see your zip code. Your information is protected and encrypted.
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On November 04 2010 07:43 .kv wrote:
I can't even remember my username and tracked my email account and found emails from cevo but none with my username on it. Ehhh....guess I'll use a some other email
texas.cevo.nationvoice.com 4000
Come into ventrilo and we will assist you in retrieving your account.
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I can vouch for CEVO cause I used to play on their site for Rainbow Six Vegas and Call of Duty....they are completely legit and interact with the players a lot...great site
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On November 04 2010 10:10 .kv wrote:
I can vouch for CEVO cause I used to play on their site for Rainbow Six Vegas and Call of Duty....they are completely legit and interact with the players a lot...great site
Legit, right.
2. Permissions Granted by User
User acknowledges that the purpose of the Software is to provide CEVO with any or all information about User’s computer and/or computing environment as deemed necessary by CEVO. By installing CMN3, User therefore grants CEVO permission to collect any or all information pertaining to and residing on User’s computer and/or computing environment without limitation except as otherwise set forth herein. User acknowledges that CMN3 may collect information from User whenever the Software is running and that, depending on the activity of User while utilizing the Software, personally identifiable information, or information that may be otherwise classified as sensitive to User, may be inadvertently collected (User is advised to limit activities while running Software to match play only). User further acknowledges that CEVO does not disclose the type, quantity, frequency or any other information regarding information collection at any time under any circumstance, and that CEVO may alter Software to collect more or less information at any time without notice. Without limiting the foregoing, the Software is not designed to determine legitimacy of software or files on User’s computer.
This is because they can't hire a developer who's half competent at trying to implement an anti-cheat so they scrape the running process list (including loaded modules), certain information from the registry, and profiling information about your CPU. None of this is needed and I did inform them of this (and bypassed it, along with anyone else with a brain) years ago. I find it hilarious that it basically says "yeah, we're watching what you do, so you probably shouldn't be doing something you think is embarassing." You might as well just set up a webcam and give them a live feed -- privacy doesn't matter, think of the nerdrage the potential of cheating could bring.
You installed the software? Open your system32 or syswow64 folder, there should be 'cpuz.exe', 'pv_c3.exe', and 'reg_c3.exe'. These are installed by a covert install.bat file in the CMN root installation directory that is erased post-install (subversive activity is rarely something you want from software installed from a "legit" company).
pv displays information about the running processes. pv v 5.2.2.1, Copyright (c) Igor Nys, 2000-2006. Usage: pv -[<OPTION>]... <ARGUMENT>... -[<OPTION>]
Command-line registry manipulation utility version 1.10. Copyright Microsoft Corporation 1997. All rights reserved. REG operation <Parameter List>
Funnily enough cpu-z has its own EULA with an indemnification clause. IANAL but I don't think they want you using their software without agreeing to that.
And as I mentioned before, for obfuscation they use this thing called Excelsior Jet which is a standalone distribution of the JRE essentially just for their application. And yes, it's all been this bad for years. I wouldn't take them seriously if they can't even pay a college kid $500 to make a decent product.
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Jmerlin,
your opinion is duly noted.
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On November 05 2010 01:56 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Jmerlin,
your opinion is duly noted.
Haha, I like the subtle sting there.
I don't know why everyones being so negative, this sounds awesome, will be trying to get a good team for open.
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No point smashing ESEA when you have half the facts wrong and haven't played in the past two seasons gdub. Best of luck to CEVO for bringing SC2 to a big NA league.
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On November 05 2010 01:56 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Jmerlin,
your opinion is duly noted.
Your extreme lack of passion about your own organization corporation, product, and image is also duly noted. I don't think the investment issues you face have anything to do with our economy; I'm quite sure it has something to do with this.
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Again, your opinion is noted. I am very passionate about my company. CEVO offers the best customer support out there, and I only hire people that truly care about the game, community, and their image among the community.
The reason my responses to you are so simple is because this thread is here simply to inform the community about upcoming events for their entertainment, not to bash ESEA. Not to bash anyone... I refuse to get into a pissing match with you about something that you do not know much about. Yes, you have to agree to those terms. It is a C.Y.A. clause. When you have even the simplest surgery, do they not make you sign a waiver stating that they are not responsible for your loss of life? This is the same thing.
I could go into great detail about how much money we have dropped on such a solid client, but really, it is not worth my time. There is nothing that I can say right now to change your opinion, which is fine. We are each entitled to one. My email is tnelson@cevo.com . If you want to continue your hatred, please feel free to email me, but I will not reply to another one of your posts on this forum.
If you do decide to participate in this event, I wish you luck. Have a good evening.
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We currently have 46 teams signed up for Season 1! Please remember that all of your members need to update their unique ID on the website. When you go to update your ID, there will be two boxes for SC2. I need your nickname in the first box, and your three digit code in the second box. By filling in this information it will allow me to set your team to @ready.
After all the teams have signed up, ID's updated, and teams set to @ready I will start to move teams up to main and pro based on applications and playing history.
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On November 02 2010 06:18 iG.Stealth wrote:
Where can we find the Official Rules,
Playing times and maps and other info regarding contacting each other,
Site looks very busy and cluttered, its kind of hard to navigate.
The official rules are still having finishing touches being put on them so not everything is set in stone.
If you've played in our Alienware Arena event for SC2 there will be many similarities between that and this in regards to scheduling. There will most likely be 2 matches a week for each team (a match being a series of 1v1's between the two teams like outlined in the first post). A match will have a deadline day where you have to play the match by that day. You can set up a time to play using our scheduling system on the site, again players who have played in our past events will know how this works. If teams can't agree on a time we will pick a time for you to play on the deadline day.
As for the site being busy and clittered..yea we agree its a pretty old design at this point and a lot of stuff has kind of been tacked on over time. I believe a redesign is in the works, but a ways off still.
If you have specific questions about rules feel free to ask though until we can get the full rules posted.
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have you guys considered having like 3 1v1's and a 2v2 instead of all 1v1's??
I just feel like it would add more diversity to the game sort of like the old proleague.
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Honestly, you are the first person that has brought that up. The style that we are currently using for the season was by popular demand from the community. You all spoke, and I listened. I haven't heard of that way yet. I am not opposed to it at all. I will just need to see the majority of the community requesting it, if they do, we will run it for sure.
We don't run these events for us. Everything I run is for you, the community. Even if we don't run the three 1v1's and then a 2v2, we will still be holding off-season events. I personally like 2v2's best. After this season, we will be running our normal 1v1 event, as well as a 2v2 event.
I look through the "SC2 Tournament" forum here on team liquid and I don't see any 2v2 events going. I think it is something that might bring some popularity. We will run an event and see how it works out.
I am always open for change. If any player sees something that they might like new put into one of our events, please feel free to let me know. We are always looking for new and improved ways to hold successful events.
Thank you for your continued ideas!
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thanks for the support, i think it would be interesting to perhaps put a poll somewhere and seeing if its a popular idea. i am extremely interested in the 2v2's
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Has not 1 game been played yet this season? I was looking to put a team together and compete in CEVO-O but it doesn't look like there is any activity.
There should be an invite system instead of telling people to find you team and join using a password.
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No, there has not been any games yet... Registration is still open for another three weeks or so.
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PM ME i wanna join a team ;D
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check out the forums, there should be a place for teams looking for players and players looking for teams
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jMERLIN?? the merlin that hacked a lot of silkroad accounts???????????????????? lol
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nelson I pm'd you a question, would appreciate an answer when you can, thanks.
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On November 14 2010 12:20 baKZ wrote:
check out the forums, there should be a place for teams looking for players and players looking for teams
We do have a Looking for Teams subforum in our SC2 forums on the CEVO site, it hasn't gotten a ton of traffic but feel free to use it to find teams. There are a bunch of teams signed up who need a couple more players to complete their 4 man rosters!
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seems pretty cool. It was a good idea for CEVO so they can stay alive 
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don't mean to come in here and continue an argument that shouldn't be going on but I feel like Nelson is trying to bash Counter-Strike (ESEA) while still trying to come off as the good guy here. I was the head of CEVO-SP/P for many seasons during their prime and let me say... CEVO was great and still is in a sense. They just don't have the people who can keep up with the times therefore killing CEVO every so slowly.
Yes, you guys did and do have the best support out there but that isn't all that matters anymore my friend. Times have changed... people don't just want a simple league where you can sign up, play, and that's it. They want something where they can not only play their matches but then browse the website (which CEVO is complete shit still after all these years) to maybe check out stats from their prior matches or other teams, leagues, games.
But now to what I really signed up for on these forums...
1) Counter-Strike is not dying everywhere in the world... FALSE. don't compare the game to what it was a couple years ago. ESEA actually just had the most users playing at one time ever for them maybe a month ago.
2) ESEA cash pot has grown every single season and has already gotten higher then CEVO's ever was and we all know how many sponsors ESEA has compared to CEVO (barely none).
3) 1.6 players almost rarely used CEVO website to do anything BUT schedule matches... let alone browse the forums to find teams. Again, I was an admin there for many years and their forums were 100% dead.. non-usable. So to say that's how 1.6 players found teams back when CEVO started... nope.
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I have all the respect for CEVO|Plitt but looking back on all those meetings we had and how much "inside" information this guy let out.. it turned out to be all almost complete BS. I'm not sure if he was lying or just had a terrible source but Plitt just isn't that involved in the community thus not really having the best ideas.
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In that diatribe, there are too many references to two words... "ESEA" and "Counter-Strike".. Neither of which have anything to do with Starcraft 2. We appreciate your in site and would gladly take an email with further issues out of context.
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2 separate games here with two separate mentalities associated with them.
Yes, we (ESEA) have applied and received a tournament license to run SC2, and if all goes well - we will be doing so. I don't think most players in SC mind the multiple matches a night and are still fighting for a name in the community with this relatively newer game. That was the deterrent between CS for the two leagues.
SC2 tournaments are always welcome in my mind, the community / competition around this game is unrivaled! So, with that said, glhfgg to you Nelson.
-Wiz
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So you are allowed to sit here and bash both CS and ESEA while other users can't pretty much give the real numbers unlike you.
you sir are not what admins use to be and seem like a total douche bag.
good day
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BGS,
To refresh my memory of all conversations since this thread has been opened, I went back and read every post I have made.... I fail to see even one time where I bashed CS or ESEA? I really wish you would do me the honor of quoting it somewhere for me.
Even though the CS communities are at each others throats over CEVO and ESEA, the SC2 community is not like that. ESEA does not have anything to do with my job, I welcome them to start a SC2 event, I will even compete in it myself.
I am not sure what pleasure you get out of creating an account just to start a flame war. Your complete ignorance of the situation saddens me, and your little cut downs toward me amuse me. Like I told the last person that wanted to fight with me for no reason, I will not be replying to any more of your posts here. You are not contributing to the success of the game or the event. You may email me any additional concerns you may have.
tnelson@cevo.com
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Who do I PM to change someones unique ID? I entered it in wrong.
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looking forward to season 1
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On November 17 2010 06:55 BGS wrote:
So you are allowed to sit here and bash both CS and ESEA while other users can't pretty much give the real numbers unlike you.
you sir are not what admins use to be and seem like a total douche bag.
good day
Did you really create an account on a competitive Starcraft site to post in the Starcraft 2 tournaments forum in a CEVO League thread about ESEA CS?
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I'm looking forward to this league. I've competed in CEVO TF2 in the past and they run a pretty good event, it will be great to have team leagues in Western SC2.
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how much would it cost per player if we happened to make CEVOmain or professional?
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The entire event, including main and pro is free to enter.
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free bump, about 1 week till submissions end.
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Need a few clarifications. What do "atlantic/central/pacific" divisions mean? And are teams from other countries allowed to participate as long as they have an NA account?
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On November 17 2010 13:33 sixghost wrote:
Who do I PM to change someones unique ID? I entered it in wrong.
What team are you playing with?
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On November 23 2010 22:55 Dysk wrote:
Need a few clarifications. What do "atlantic/central/pacific" divisions mean? And are teams from other countries allowed to participate as long as they have an NA account?
It is in reference to time zones.
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When is the expected date for matches to start?
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The last day for signups to this event is Sunday, November 28th. Everyone needs to have their team of a minimum of four (4) members, with their SC2 ID in their account in order to be eligible to compete in this event. The first round of matches will be starting on Thursday, December 2nd.
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do we need to have an irc account? its listed under team, can we use any other methods for contacts as me and my team do not currently have an irc account.
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On November 24 2010 15:15 sechkie wrote:
do we need to have an irc account? its listed under team, can we use any other methods for contacts as me and my team do not currently have an irc account.
That was added to our website back when IRC was actually popular, by no means is that required. The only two things that are required to participate are four players with their SC2 ID on their account.
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Will teams selected to the main (or pro) divisions know before the official 29th announcement, or does everyone find out at once?
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CEVO is a corrupt shithole in CS:S and 1.6.
I don't meant to entirely flame your thread, but what's going to make it a well-run league in SC2?
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On November 25 2010 06:54 v1dom wrote:
Will teams selected to the main (or pro) divisions know before the official 29th announcement, or does everyone find out at once?
The captains of the teams will receive an email on the 29th if they are accepted to main/pro
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On November 25 2010 07:32 CEVO Nelson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2010 06:54 v1dom wrote:
Will teams selected to the main (or pro) divisions know before the official 29th announcement, or does everyone find out at once? The captains of the teams will receive an email on the 29th if they are accepted to main/pro
Thanks, appreciate the prompt response.
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I still need one diamond player to complete my team. Anyone looking for a spot?
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Ladies and gentlemen,
Tomorrow is the last day to register your team for this event. You will need to have four players with their battle net id on your roster for me to ready up your team. I urge you to contact me if you need help getting this accomplished.
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I see VT gaming signed up with Torch on the roster, that's pretty sweet but didn't Torch get picked up Startale? well either way that's cool that a pretty major team is signed up.
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Any team have an extra slot? I'm a 1900 diamond protoss. Just pm me ^^
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Are all of the games on LT? Does the home team get to schedule their players based on the away team lineup? Is there a listing of rules to clarify things?
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On November 30 2010 14:27 fnaticAugury wrote:
Are all of the games on LT? Does the home team get to schedule their players based on the away team lineup? Is there a listing of rules to clarify things?
+1. Can't find a list of rules.
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i believe thats the first map and then loser picks
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
650$ in prizes I can't use 
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On November 30 2010 14:48 ZekZ wrote:
i believe thats the first map and then loser picks
This is what I thought, but it also says in the ruleset that all games are to be played simultaneously (maybe they mean back-to-back). It would be nice to have a breakdown in writing, either way.
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On November 30 2010 14:27 fnaticAugury wrote:
Are all of the games on LT? Does the home team get to schedule their players based on the away team lineup? Is there a listing of rules to clarify things?
- Yes each 'match' all the games are played on the same map, for this preseason match that map is lost temple.
- The home teams advantage is they get to see the away teams picks of players so they can pick the match ups they prefer. By the end of the season your team will have the same amount of home and away matches to balance this advantage.
On December 01 2010 02:15 v1dom wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 14:48 ZekZ wrote:
i believe thats the first map and then loser picks This is what I thought, but it also says in the ruleset that all games are to be played simultaneously (maybe they mean back-to-back). It would be nice to have a breakdown in writing, either way.
- A 'MATCH' consists of 4 1v1's by 4 different players from each teams, we would like all 4 games to be played at the same time (so people aren't waiting around for hours). If BOTH teams agree you are welcome to play 1 at a time. If the 4 matches conclude and its 2 wins per team you will play your 5th game (Ace Match), again the away team needs to pick their player first and home team can then pick their player. The players in the 5th match MUST of played in one of the first 4.
Most of this was posted in each match from an official, so if you find my explanation confusing try and read over the other one and see if it makes more sense.
- The rules will be posted soon(tm), if you have any questions keep posting them I, or Nelson, will answer them.
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On November 30 2010 15:52 {88}iNcontroL wrote:650$ in prizes I can't use
capitalist 
love the pro-league format, best of luck!
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If there isn't going to be a main division this season, does that mean the open division will have a shot at the $650 that was reserved for main, or will the professional division's prize pool be $1300 now?
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On December 01 2010 06:37 kilgore wrote:
If there isn't going to be a main division this season, does that mean the open division will have a shot at the $650 that was reserved for main, or will the professional division's prize pool be $1300 now?
I believe the prizes will be used for open, I'll see if I can confirm that for sure though.
On December 01 2010 07:09 v1dom wrote:
Are matches BO3 or BO1?
Just to make sure terminology isn't being confused a match is the overall series of games between the two teams. A game is a 1v1 between the players.
Each game is bo1, the MATCH is not really BO3 in the normal sense even though 3 is the amount of games to lock up a win. You will play 4 games for each match AT LEAST, and then a 5th if its tied 2-2 after 4 games.
So to clarify how a match should be set up here is a mock example of the steps to schedule play a match:
Pre-Match:
1) Teams post in the match thread times they want to play
2) Teams come to an agreement on a time
3) Away team posts the 4 players that will play in the match, the home team can then look up the players and decide which 4 players and vs who they will play against
30ish mins before match:
4) Players from both teams should start getting on CMN3 to make sure there are no problems
5) The home team gets into b.net and have their 4 players invite their opponents to custom games on the map of the match (Lost temple)
6) Play all 4 matches
7) once all 4 games are complete if the score is 3-1 or 4-0 you are done, teams can leave and report the match on our website
8) if the score is 2-2, away team says which player will play in the 5th match, and home team selects their player makes the game and invites their opponent.
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On December 01 2010 07:30 byobong7 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 06:37 kilgore wrote:
If there isn't going to be a main division this season, does that mean the open division will have a shot at the $650 that was reserved for main, or will the professional division's prize pool be $1300 now? I believe the prizes will be used for open, I'll see if I can confirm that for sure though. Just to make sure terminology isn't being confused a match is the overall series of games between the two teams. A game is a 1v1 between the players. Each game is bo1, the MATCH is not really BO3 in the normal sense even though 3 is the amount of games to lock up a win. You will play 4 games for each match AT LEAST, and then a 5th if its tied 2-2 after 4 games. So to clarify how a match should be set up here is a mock example of the steps to schedule play a match: Pre-Match:1) Teams post in the match thread times they want to play 2) Teams come to an agreement on a time 3) Away team posts the 4 players that will play in the match, the home team can then look up the players and decide which 4 players and vs who they will play against 30ish mins before match:4) Players from both teams should start getting on CMN3 to make sure there are no problems 5) The home team gets into b.net and have their 4 players invite their opponents to custom games on the map of the match (Lost temple) 6) Play all 4 matches 7) once all 4 games are complete if the score is 3-1 or 4-0 you are done, teams can leave and report the match on our website 8) if the score is 2-2, away team says which player will play in the 5th match, and home team selects their player makes the game and invites their opponent.
You sure?
17.10 Match Description and Guideline
A match is a best two out of 3 bout. A match is considered "COMPLETE" when one player beats their opponent 2 out of 3 rounds played.
That's from the CEVO rules for SC2.
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On December 01 2010 07:51 sixghost wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 07:30 byobong7 wrote:On December 01 2010 06:37 kilgore wrote:
If there isn't going to be a main division this season, does that mean the open division will have a shot at the $650 that was reserved for main, or will the professional division's prize pool be $1300 now? I believe the prizes will be used for open, I'll see if I can confirm that for sure though. On December 01 2010 07:09 v1dom wrote:
Are matches BO3 or BO1? Just to make sure terminology isn't being confused a match is the overall series of games between the two teams. A game is a 1v1 between the players. Each game is bo1, the MATCH is not really BO3 in the normal sense even though 3 is the amount of games to lock up a win. You will play 4 games for each match AT LEAST, and then a 5th if its tied 2-2 after 4 games. So to clarify how a match should be set up here is a mock example of the steps to schedule play a match: Pre-Match:1) Teams post in the match thread times they want to play 2) Teams come to an agreement on a time 3) Away team posts the 4 players that will play in the match, the home team can then look up the players and decide which 4 players and vs who they will play against 30ish mins before match:4) Players from both teams should start getting on CMN3 to make sure there are no problems 5) The home team gets into b.net and have their 4 players invite their opponents to custom games on the map of the match (Lost temple) 6) Play all 4 matches 7) once all 4 games are complete if the score is 3-1 or 4-0 you are done, teams can leave and report the match on our website 8) if the score is 2-2, away team says which player will play in the 5th match, and home team selects their player makes the game and invites their opponent. You sure? 17.10 Match Description and Guideline A match is a best two out of 3 bout. A match is considered "COMPLETE" when one player beats their opponent 2 out of 3 rounds played. That's from the CEVO rules for SC2.
Those are very old rules from a previous event, we have to update them.
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Bo3 is better -_- , BO1 might be luck , like 6 pool or something , having no re is kinda bad
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Bo1 is the best for team events. The rest seems terrible though.
Every game is played on LT? The home team has a HUGE advantage. If that's right, then CEVO needs to fix their rules ASAP.
CSL has a really nice system in place, should copy something like that.
Edit: It's also usually nice to play game 1 first, then game 2, etc.. typically players want to watch their team play, although that's not a big issue compared to the other ones.
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It will be BO1 for each player. And yes, since there is not a Main division for this season, the prizing for Main will now be applied to the Open division.
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Why would you do a Bo1 in an online league? These things could be over in like 25 minutes if it's bo1.
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because four players are competing... That is four players on your team will compete in a 1v1, if it ends up in a 2-2 tie, one of your team competes against a member of the other team.
Realistically speaking the average time for this endeavor will be around 45 minutes to an hour, which is a normal time frame for any of our events.
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love it.. group of dota players in pro and a team like rS left in open.
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vVv has yet to hear a replay from CEVO, could you please email me, roar@vvv-gaming.com!
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On December 01 2010 14:08 Grroar wrote:
vVv has yet to hear a replay from CEVO, could you please email me, roar@vvv-gaming.com!
You never created a team.
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On December 01 2010 13:47 rS.Killa wrote:
love it.. group of dota players in pro and a team like rS left in open.
We put teams in pro based on rankings and points. If they are not worthy, they will be moved down next season, just alike, if you prove yourselves, you will be moved up. No, things will not be 100% accurate because it is season 1. Anyone with common sense would realize that it is going to take a couple seasons for things to run smoothly and teams being placed where they belong.
Because I'm sure all teams are not all exactly where they belong, the prizing is the same for open as it is pro. This is to give everyone a shot at the same thing. As the seasons progress and teams are where they truly belong, prizing will differentiate between pro to open to main.
Please be patient, things will work themselves out. It is, in fact, season "1".
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On December 01 2010 13:47 rS.Killa wrote:
love it.. group of dota players in pro and a team like rS left in open.
Not to mention, I just checked on your application, and you didn't submit it until Monday at 12:31pm... Registration closed on Sunday. We also made our pro decisions Sunday night.
PLEASE tell me you did not just try to flame CEVO for leaving you in open when YOU did not do what was asked of you to apply for pro...
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Sounds like an awesome league, will there be VODs of pro games?
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Yes, I have two casting companies working on getting matches to the public.
l2sc.tv and e-rev.tv
They will be doing live casts as well as VODS for us.
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CEVO is huge for FPS games, i cant wait to see CEVO get big into RTS and see this league grow!
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On December 01 2010 16:38 NoHrt wrote:
CEVO is huge for FPS games, i cant wait to see CEVO get big into RTS and see this league grow!
Thank you for your support!
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Can we have obs in our game?
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On December 02 2010 03:47 Sarangyoo wrote:
Can we have obs in our game?
No observers in matches unless its a CEVO official, or one of our streams. If someone messages you saying they are a CEVO official/streamer and you aren't sure please come into our vent and ask us there.
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On October 30 2010 14:49 Alou wrote:
Why is M and P getting the same prizes if one is supposedly better than the others? Good luck with this!
M is the Main League, and P is the Professional. I only know this because I was in Cevo-p in TF2.
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On December 01 2010 15:33 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Yes, I have two casting companies working on getting matches to the public.
l2sc.tv and e-rev.tv
They will be doing live casts as well as VODS for us.
Ya l2sc! I'm excited for this.
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We are as well. I really look forward to casting these games and seeing this league evolve!
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On December 02 2010 04:18 byobong7 wrote:No observers in matches unless its a CEVO official, or one of our streams. If someone messages you saying they are a CEVO official/streamer and you aren't sure please come into our vent and ask us there.
So team members can't obs games?
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On December 02 2010 10:58 fnaticAugury wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 04:18 byobong7 wrote:On December 02 2010 03:47 Sarangyoo wrote:
Can we have obs in our game? No observers in matches unless its a CEVO official, or one of our streams. If someone messages you saying they are a CEVO official/streamer and you aren't sure please come into our vent and ask us there. So team members can't obs games?
No sir. That would give them a slight advantage don't you think? 
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On December 02 2010 05:49 Ic3d wrote:
We are as well. I really look forward to casting these games and seeing this league evolve!
CEVO is very pleased to have such a great company casting our matches. I look forward to growing our business together.
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On December 02 2010 11:13 CEVO Nelson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 10:58 fnaticAugury wrote:On December 02 2010 04:18 byobong7 wrote:On December 02 2010 03:47 Sarangyoo wrote:
Can we have obs in our game? No observers in matches unless its a CEVO official, or one of our streams. If someone messages you saying they are a CEVO official/streamer and you aren't sure please come into our vent and ask us there. So team members can't obs games? No sir. That would give them a slight advantage don't you think?
what about our own streamer? thanks
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Only if you can put a large delay on it. Our casting companies will be doing live steams for the community but they have the ability to put a huge delay on the stream so there will be no unfair advantage to either of the teams.
They will not just be casting pro matches either. I feel it is equally as important to have good open teams casted. There are good matches to be seen and casted from lower ranked teams. My casting companies will be broadcasting open matches as well as pro.
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On December 02 2010 11:13 CEVO Nelson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 10:58 fnaticAugury wrote:On December 02 2010 04:18 byobong7 wrote:On December 02 2010 03:47 Sarangyoo wrote:
Can we have obs in our game? No observers in matches unless its a CEVO official, or one of our streams. If someone messages you saying they are a CEVO official/streamer and you aren't sure please come into our vent and ask us there. So team members can't obs games? No sir. That would give them a slight advantage don't you think?
It's not really been an issue in the past for Wc3 leagues. Teams in Open should at least be allowed to enjoy watching their players play.
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On December 03 2010 10:21 fnaticAugury wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 11:13 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 02 2010 10:58 fnaticAugury wrote:On December 02 2010 04:18 byobong7 wrote:On December 02 2010 03:47 Sarangyoo wrote:
Can we have obs in our game? No observers in matches unless its a CEVO official, or one of our streams. If someone messages you saying they are a CEVO official/streamer and you aren't sure please come into our vent and ask us there. So team members can't obs games? No sir. That would give them a slight advantage don't you think? It's not really been an issue in the past for Wc3 leagues. Teams in Open should at least be allowed to enjoy watching their players play.
no obs is a great rule.
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On December 03 2010 10:21 fnaticAugury wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 11:13 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 02 2010 10:58 fnaticAugury wrote:On December 02 2010 04:18 byobong7 wrote:On December 02 2010 03:47 Sarangyoo wrote:
Can we have obs in our game? No observers in matches unless its a CEVO official, or one of our streams. If someone messages you saying they are a CEVO official/streamer and you aren't sure please come into our vent and ask us there. So team members can't obs games? No sir. That would give them a slight advantage don't you think? It's not really been an issue in the past for Wc3 leagues. Teams in Open should at least be allowed to enjoy watching their players play.
We understand the desire to want to watch in real time of how your teammate is doing, and we also know how some people will use any way they can to get an advantage. We don't want teammates watching the game in real time because there are too many people who would use that information to cheat and we don't want to put the burden on teams to have to deny requests like this every match. Our steamers will be using a several minute delay to prevent these sort of things also.
You can always share your replays and watch/discuss them as a team afterwards to improve.
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How do I report games..I clicked on report match and it says H1, H2, and OT..whats that?
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On December 03 2010 14:05 Megaliskuu wrote:
How do I report games..I clicked on report match and it says H1, H2, and OT..whats that?
H1 will be your first to matches, H2 will be your second two matches, OT will be the Ace match if one was played.
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Are the rules on the site up to date? They are dated April 28th 2010 and the map pool is:
For the duration of the tournament each match will be played from the following pool of 5 maps total.
Blistering Sands
Steppes of War
Desert Oasis
Scrap Station
Incineration Zone
The "HOME" team will pick the first map to be banned (removed from play) and the away team will then pick the second map to be banned. Then the "HOME" team from the remaining three maps will pick the first map to be played. The away team subsequently will pick the second map to be played. In the event of a tie the third round will be played on the only remaining map not banned or played.
It also states above that all of the matches are Bo3. Is it not Bo5 with each player (4) playing 1 game?
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On December 03 2010 14:10 CEVO Nelson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 14:05 Megaliskuu wrote:
How do I report games..I clicked on report match and it says H1, H2, and OT..whats that? H1 will be your first to matches, H2 will be your second two matches, OT will be the Ace match if one was played.
Ok so we 3-0'd. Therefore H1 is 2-0. and H2 is 1-0, however it won't let me out 1-0 for H2.
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On December 03 2010 14:28 Megaliskuu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 14:10 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 03 2010 14:05 Megaliskuu wrote:
How do I report games..I clicked on report match and it says H1, H2, and OT..whats that? H1 will be your first to matches, H2 will be your second two matches, OT will be the Ace match if one was played. Ok so we 3-0'd. Therefore H1 is 2-0. and H2 is 1-0, however it won't let me out 1-0 for H2.
You are correct on the scoring, I am getting it corrected so you are able to report correctly, if you'll just tell me what the team name is I will report it for you. The site will be corrected by the end of preseason. I apologize for the inconvenience.
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On December 03 2010 14:14 Inkarnate wrote:Are the rules on the site up to date? They are dated April 28th 2010 and the map pool is: Show nested quote +For the duration of the tournament each match will be played from the following pool of 5 maps total.
Blistering Sands
Steppes of War
Desert Oasis
Scrap Station
Incineration Zone
The "HOME" team will pick the first map to be banned (removed from play) and the away team will then pick the second map to be banned. Then the "HOME" team from the remaining three maps will pick the first map to be played. The away team subsequently will pick the second map to be played. In the event of a tie the third round will be played on the only remaining map not banned or played. It also states above that all of the matches are Bo3. Is it not Bo5 with each player (4) playing 1 game?
Getting the rules updated, they are completely incorrect. Those should be up shortly.
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On December 03 2010 14:54 CEVO Nelson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 14:28 Megaliskuu wrote:On December 03 2010 14:10 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 03 2010 14:05 Megaliskuu wrote:
How do I report games..I clicked on report match and it says H1, H2, and OT..whats that? H1 will be your first to matches, H2 will be your second two matches, OT will be the Ace match if one was played. Ok so we 3-0'd. Therefore H1 is 2-0. and H2 is 1-0, however it won't let me out 1-0 for H2. You are correct on the scoring, I am getting it corrected so you are able to report correctly, if you'll just tell me what the team name is I will report it for you. The site will be corrected by the end of preseason. I apologize for the inconvenience.
It's Team Gaybuttsex
All one word.
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On December 03 2010 14:57 Stoids wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 14:54 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 03 2010 14:28 Megaliskuu wrote:On December 03 2010 14:10 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 03 2010 14:05 Megaliskuu wrote:
How do I report games..I clicked on report match and it says H1, H2, and OT..whats that? H1 will be your first to matches, H2 will be your second two matches, OT will be the Ace match if one was played. Ok so we 3-0'd. Therefore H1 is 2-0. and H2 is 1-0, however it won't let me out 1-0 for H2. You are correct on the scoring, I am getting it corrected so you are able to report correctly, if you'll just tell me what the team name is I will report it for you. The site will be corrected by the end of preseason. I apologize for the inconvenience. It's Team Gaybuttsex All one word.
Reported. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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When and where the away team have to pu the roster
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I'm sorry but why is the report system in halves and overtimes? That seems incredibly stupid.
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like how many days does the away team have to put the roster before the clan wars(deadline)
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On December 04 2010 07:22 Sarangyoo wrote:
like how many days does the away team have to put the roster before the clan wars(deadline)
A minimum of one (1) hour before the scheduled match time.
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On December 04 2010 07:15 Sarangyoo wrote:
When and where the away team have to pu the roster
In match comm where you scheduled your match. One hour minimum before match time.
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On December 04 2010 07:19 Alou wrote:
I'm sorry but why is the report system in halves and overtimes? That seems incredibly stupid.
All of the games we host EXCEPT for SC2 have halves. It is the generic way our website is setup.
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appears my issue was fixed
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The rules for SC2 are still very outdated. Are there going to be any updates?
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On December 06 2010 04:27 Sarangyoo wrote:
website is down?
I was told the website crashed earlier in the day, but everything seems to be working fine now.
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Been trying to find a CEVO admin all day. Still haven't been able to. Anyone alive?
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Due to popular demand I have decided to make some alterations to the event. Previously, each matchup was a BO1. I have been contacted by several members of the community that requested it be changed to BO3. We will be implementing this. The rest of the format stands.
Each of the four players will do a BO3 match against a member of the opposing team. The map will remain the same throughout the entire match. This ensures that a player does not get "lucky" to win a match.
When reporting the scores, each match will count as one (1) point. Matches are to be reported in the same format as before; each match in the series is considered one (1) point. The "ace match", if required, will also count as a single point.
The rule change will be explained in your matchcomms as well. This rule will take effect in week 1 matches. ALL preseason matches are to continue with the original format.
I truly hope everyone is satisfied with this new change. I believe this will extend the time of matches to a decent amount so it is worth showing up for them.
Thank you for your continued support of CEVO and your ideas to make our league more improved.
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On November 01 2010 02:39 Xeris wrote:
Why are entry fees needed for prizes? ESL , ZOTAC, etc don't charge entry fees and yet they offer prizes.
For an organization that lists about 20 sponsors, I'm kinda confused as to why there aren't any funds to provide real prizes. It just seems kinda weird that the best an organization as big as CEVO can provide is some mousepads. What do your sponsors provide, if not funding and products for events? And based on your claim that your cash prizes come almost exclusively from entry fee - I dunno, things don't seem to add up.
Either you have some really one-sided relationship with sponsors, or there are things unaccounted for.
Either way, it's nice to see CEVO get into SC2... but I dunno, seems like a lot of effort for teams to fight for a couple of headsets/mousepads oo!
They are probably pocketing the money themselves!!! lol but yeah in all seriousness where is the money going? Or are they actual sponsors?
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On December 06 2010 14:31 ReachTheSky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 02:39 Xeris wrote:
Why are entry fees needed for prizes? ESL , ZOTAC, etc don't charge entry fees and yet they offer prizes.
For an organization that lists about 20 sponsors, I'm kinda confused as to why there aren't any funds to provide real prizes. It just seems kinda weird that the best an organization as big as CEVO can provide is some mousepads. What do your sponsors provide, if not funding and products for events? And based on your claim that your cash prizes come almost exclusively from entry fee - I dunno, things don't seem to add up.
Either you have some really one-sided relationship with sponsors, or there are things unaccounted for.
Either way, it's nice to see CEVO get into SC2... but I dunno, seems like a lot of effort for teams to fight for a couple of headsets/mousepads oo! They are probably pocketing the money themselves!!! lol but yeah in all seriousness where is the money going? Or are they actual sponsors?
Not exactly sure why you decided to post on an event that you know NOTHING about?.... We have not charged entry fees for any of our SC2 events. This event and the ones prior to this have been completely free..
Next question?
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On December 06 2010 14:06 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Due to popular demand I have decided to make some alterations to the event. Previously, each matchup was a BO1. I have been contacted by several members of the community that requested it be changed to BO3. We will be implementing this. The rest of the format stands.
Each of the four players will do a BO3 match against a member of the opposing team. The map will remain the same throughout the entire match. This ensures that a player does not get "lucky" to win a match.
When reporting the scores, each match will count as one (1) point. Matches are to be reported in the same format as before; each match in the series is considered one (1) point. The "ace match", if required, will also count as a single point.
The rule change will be explained in your matchcomms as well. This rule will take effect in week 1 matches. ALL preseason matches are to continue with the original format.
I truly hope everyone is satisfied with this new change. I believe this will extend the time of matches to a decent amount so it is worth showing up for them.
Thank you for your continued support of CEVO and your ideas to make our league more improved.
So we are playing a BO3 all on the same map? As in Steppes of War or Shakuras Plateau 3 times in a row? Am I understanding that part correctly?
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On December 06 2010 14:46 Alou wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 14:06 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Due to popular demand I have decided to make some alterations to the event. Previously, each matchup was a BO1. I have been contacted by several members of the community that requested it be changed to BO3. We will be implementing this. The rest of the format stands.
Each of the four players will do a BO3 match against a member of the opposing team. The map will remain the same throughout the entire match. This ensures that a player does not get "lucky" to win a match.
When reporting the scores, each match will count as one (1) point. Matches are to be reported in the same format as before; each match in the series is considered one (1) point. The "ace match", if required, will also count as a single point.
The rule change will be explained in your matchcomms as well. This rule will take effect in week 1 matches. ALL preseason matches are to continue with the original format.
I truly hope everyone is satisfied with this new change. I believe this will extend the time of matches to a decent amount so it is worth showing up for them.
Thank you for your continued support of CEVO and your ideas to make our league more improved. So we are playing a BO3 all on the same map? As in Steppes of War or Shakuras Plateau 3 times in a row? Am I understanding that part correctly?
Yes
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On December 06 2010 14:55 CEVO Nelson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 14:46 Alou wrote:On December 06 2010 14:06 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Due to popular demand I have decided to make some alterations to the event. Previously, each matchup was a BO1. I have been contacted by several members of the community that requested it be changed to BO3. We will be implementing this. The rest of the format stands.
Each of the four players will do a BO3 match against a member of the opposing team. The map will remain the same throughout the entire match. This ensures that a player does not get "lucky" to win a match.
When reporting the scores, each match will count as one (1) point. Matches are to be reported in the same format as before; each match in the series is considered one (1) point. The "ace match", if required, will also count as a single point.
The rule change will be explained in your matchcomms as well. This rule will take effect in week 1 matches. ALL preseason matches are to continue with the original format.
I truly hope everyone is satisfied with this new change. I believe this will extend the time of matches to a decent amount so it is worth showing up for them.
Thank you for your continued support of CEVO and your ideas to make our league more improved. So we are playing a BO3 all on the same map? As in Steppes of War or Shakuras Plateau 3 times in a row? Am I understanding that part correctly? Yes
playing all bo3 games on the same map? and the home team can know away team's roster in advance, that would be a huge huge advantage in the entire match. really.
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On December 06 2010 15:29 nkwd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 14:55 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 06 2010 14:46 Alou wrote:On December 06 2010 14:06 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Due to popular demand I have decided to make some alterations to the event. Previously, each matchup was a BO1. I have been contacted by several members of the community that requested it be changed to BO3. We will be implementing this. The rest of the format stands.
Each of the four players will do a BO3 match against a member of the opposing team. The map will remain the same throughout the entire match. This ensures that a player does not get "lucky" to win a match.
When reporting the scores, each match will count as one (1) point. Matches are to be reported in the same format as before; each match in the series is considered one (1) point. The "ace match", if required, will also count as a single point.
The rule change will be explained in your matchcomms as well. This rule will take effect in week 1 matches. ALL preseason matches are to continue with the original format.
I truly hope everyone is satisfied with this new change. I believe this will extend the time of matches to a decent amount so it is worth showing up for them.
Thank you for your continued support of CEVO and your ideas to make our league more improved. So we are playing a BO3 all on the same map? As in Steppes of War or Shakuras Plateau 3 times in a row? Am I understanding that part correctly? Yes playing all bo3 games on the same map? and the home team can know away team's roster in advance, that would be a huge huge advantage in the entire match. really.
That's the advantage to being the home team. Each team will have an equal number of home and away games, so they have the same advantage for half of their games. 8 home = 8 away.
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I was a big, albeit silent, proponet of a BO3 format, but having a BO3 all on the same map is even worse than the BO1 format. Contrary to what most people may think, there's very little "luck" involved beyond race match and map, and with the home team/away team deal, there's almost no luck period, other than who's the home team.
I don't plan to withdraw my team regardless, but for the sake of the best team coming out on top, please reconsider this format. Even a BO3 with a map pool and losers choice would be advantageous to the home team. The winners of this league will not be the highest skilled (other than possibly EG), but the team that gets the home team in matches that would have otherwise been very close. We had a razor-close war vs MnM this weekend in a blind map-pick format league, and I can promise you that the winner of our team vs MnM in this league will be solely decided on who gets the home team that week. This will be the case for all close matches.
Imagine being on Steppes of War as Zerg and having to face a protoss 3 games in a row. Ugh...
If there's some logistical reason we can't have a map pool and losers choice, please air it openly.
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On December 06 2010 22:56 CEVO Nelson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 15:29 nkwd wrote:On December 06 2010 14:55 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 06 2010 14:46 Alou wrote:On December 06 2010 14:06 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Due to popular demand I have decided to make some alterations to the event. Previously, each matchup was a BO1. I have been contacted by several members of the community that requested it be changed to BO3. We will be implementing this. The rest of the format stands.
Each of the four players will do a BO3 match against a member of the opposing team. The map will remain the same throughout the entire match. This ensures that a player does not get "lucky" to win a match.
When reporting the scores, each match will count as one (1) point. Matches are to be reported in the same format as before; each match in the series is considered one (1) point. The "ace match", if required, will also count as a single point.
The rule change will be explained in your matchcomms as well. This rule will take effect in week 1 matches. ALL preseason matches are to continue with the original format.
I truly hope everyone is satisfied with this new change. I believe this will extend the time of matches to a decent amount so it is worth showing up for them.
Thank you for your continued support of CEVO and your ideas to make our league more improved. So we are playing a BO3 all on the same map? As in Steppes of War or Shakuras Plateau 3 times in a row? Am I understanding that part correctly? Yes playing all bo3 games on the same map? and the home team can know away team's roster in advance, that would be a huge huge advantage in the entire match. really. That's the advantage to being the home team. Each team will have an equal number of home and away games, so they have the same advantage for half of their games. 8 home = 8 away.
Do you even play Starcraft 2?
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On December 07 2010 02:15 Alou wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 22:56 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 06 2010 15:29 nkwd wrote:On December 06 2010 14:55 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 06 2010 14:46 Alou wrote:On December 06 2010 14:06 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Due to popular demand I have decided to make some alterations to the event. Previously, each matchup was a BO1. I have been contacted by several members of the community that requested it be changed to BO3. We will be implementing this. The rest of the format stands.
Each of the four players will do a BO3 match against a member of the opposing team. The map will remain the same throughout the entire match. This ensures that a player does not get "lucky" to win a match.
When reporting the scores, each match will count as one (1) point. Matches are to be reported in the same format as before; each match in the series is considered one (1) point. The "ace match", if required, will also count as a single point.
The rule change will be explained in your matchcomms as well. This rule will take effect in week 1 matches. ALL preseason matches are to continue with the original format.
I truly hope everyone is satisfied with this new change. I believe this will extend the time of matches to a decent amount so it is worth showing up for them.
Thank you for your continued support of CEVO and your ideas to make our league more improved. So we are playing a BO3 all on the same map? As in Steppes of War or Shakuras Plateau 3 times in a row? Am I understanding that part correctly? Yes playing all bo3 games on the same map? and the home team can know away team's roster in advance, that would be a huge huge advantage in the entire match. really. That's the advantage to being the home team. Each team will have an equal number of home and away games, so they have the same advantage for half of their games. 8 home = 8 away. Do you even play Starcraft 2?
You might want to elaborate on your snarky comment. As obviously CEVO is listening to the community for how to run their StarCraft 2 league. Maybe some insight behind your comment could help the league and how it should be ran, as it seems they are more than willing to make changes to how the StarCraft 2 league works.
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On December 06 2010 10:30 Mirhi wrote:
Been trying to find a CEVO admin all day. Still haven't been able to. Anyone alive?
Mirhi - Most of us work or go to school during the day. If you pop into the CEVO vent in the evening there will almost always be someone there. I spoke with you last night though so if you have any other questions let us know.
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Best of 3 all on the same map? With all due respect, does CEVO know anything about the Starcraft community?
What logic is involved in that? Is CEVO being different just to be different? No other league or tournament has a format as ridiculous as that.
Does CEVO understand racial advantages on certain maps? For example, it is completely unfair for a Zerg to play a BO3 entirely on Lost Temple. It's also boring to watch.
Which brings up another point. CEVO has made the league entirely un-viewable because they allow neither casters nor observers.
Perhaps ghosting and vent cheating are commonplace in the FPS world, but in Starcraft 2 it's very rare. Compare the exposure SGL has to what CEVO will have with no real ability to watch the teams in the league.
Honestly, I'm a little upset because I was hoping I'd be proved wrong about CEVO, but I still have yet to have a positive experience. It seems like you want to apply FPS rules to non FPS games and it never works.
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BO3 on the same map doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. I understand why this may seem logical from an admins perspective for the sake of scheduling and regulating the league, but there are some alternatives that I think CEVO admins should consider. For instance, notice how ESEA has set up a poll to decide the way in which the league would run. In this poll there are a number of viable options, all of which have been implemented in previous SC:BW leagues with relative success.
I'm not trying to flame here, but there seems to have been little research done prior to the creation of this league. I think this has resulted in the ensuing flame war against CEVO. I know being an admin for a gaming league isn't the easiest thing in the world (I used to be a CAL admin), however with blunders like the current league format or the prize pool being the same for professional and main, I think many of us are having a hard time taking CEVO seriously.
By the way, have ya'll decided what to do with the $650 prize pool that was originally allocated for main?
EDIT: Also, ya'll should consider allowing casters to observe the games at the professional level and maybe the semi-finals and finals for the open league. However, I can certainly understand any reservations that ya'll might have when it comes to in-game spectators.
One last note, ya'll might want to update the CEVO SC2 main page with some of these changes regarding league format, the prize pool, and other pertinent info for those that haven't been keeping up with this thread.
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I agree bo3 all of the same map is kinda lame >.<
Also he problem with having home and away team advantage is that there is such a wide skill gap between some teams, even in pro division. Sure every team gets the same amount of homes/aways, but it really matters which matches the get them. Take our team vs EG for example. If we could to match up all 4 players to our liking, it would give us a huge advantage, but having that same ability vs a lesser team would be pointless. So it is kinda luck based, as to when u get your homes and aways.
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Honestly a blind format works best in my opinion.
Like how it's done in CSL, both teams submit lineups without seeing each others lineup and that's how it's played unless there's noshow or substitution.
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In team format, I think BO1 is perfectly fine (or at least, the lesser of two evils when compared to a BO3 on the same map). All-kill format would be neat too, but could have the possibility of ending up very lengthy.
However, I feel like the home and away team advantage is a little unnecessary. It would much better if both teams submitted lineups which would be revealed later on, so both teams are on equal ground.
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I think All Kill / Winners League format is best for team league. 4 BO3s with an ace match is good also, but BO3 on 1 map and BO1 are both poor.
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You can observe / cast games but only if both teams agree on it. We will be casting a good amount of games this season with our casting companies.
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RAGEQUIT.TV will be casting ours tonight and the admins never said anything about it, so i assume its fine to have outside casting companies, as well as the CEVO branded casters.
DOWN WITH THE CLIENT FOR THE PROFESSIONAL DIVISION ! I am not worried about these teams cheating, most of them I know already, or know of them. If we are going to reveal someone to be cheating it will be done by assessing replays and confirming evidence, not finding programs on their computer !
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On December 07 2010 03:27 NoHrt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2010 02:15 Alou wrote:On December 06 2010 22:56 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 06 2010 15:29 nkwd wrote:On December 06 2010 14:55 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 06 2010 14:46 Alou wrote:On December 06 2010 14:06 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Due to popular demand I have decided to make some alterations to the event. Previously, each matchup was a BO1. I have been contacted by several members of the community that requested it be changed to BO3. We will be implementing this. The rest of the format stands.
Each of the four players will do a BO3 match against a member of the opposing team. The map will remain the same throughout the entire match. This ensures that a player does not get "lucky" to win a match.
When reporting the scores, each match will count as one (1) point. Matches are to be reported in the same format as before; each match in the series is considered one (1) point. The "ace match", if required, will also count as a single point.
The rule change will be explained in your matchcomms as well. This rule will take effect in week 1 matches. ALL preseason matches are to continue with the original format.
I truly hope everyone is satisfied with this new change. I believe this will extend the time of matches to a decent amount so it is worth showing up for them.
Thank you for your continued support of CEVO and your ideas to make our league more improved. So we are playing a BO3 all on the same map? As in Steppes of War or Shakuras Plateau 3 times in a row? Am I understanding that part correctly? Yes playing all bo3 games on the same map? and the home team can know away team's roster in advance, that would be a huge huge advantage in the entire match. really. That's the advantage to being the home team. Each team will have an equal number of home and away games, so they have the same advantage for half of their games. 8 home = 8 away. Do you even play Starcraft 2? You might want to elaborate on your snarky comment. As obviously CEVO is listening to the community for how to run their StarCraft 2 league. Maybe some insight behind your comment could help the league and how it should be ran, as it seems they are more than willing to make changes to how the StarCraft 2 league works.
They aren't listening to the community at all or even doing research on other team leagues if they somehow rationalized a BO3 on the same map. So far CEVO has just tried to take FPS rules and put them on SC2. I want to give CEVO a chance, but they seem to be out of their comfort zone and not taking their time to figure out the SC2 community. This entire league seems forced so far.
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On December 07 2010 06:55 Alou wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2010 03:27 NoHrt wrote:On December 07 2010 02:15 Alou wrote:On December 06 2010 22:56 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 06 2010 15:29 nkwd wrote:On December 06 2010 14:55 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 06 2010 14:46 Alou wrote:On December 06 2010 14:06 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Due to popular demand I have decided to make some alterations to the event. Previously, each matchup was a BO1. I have been contacted by several members of the community that requested it be changed to BO3. We will be implementing this. The rest of the format stands.
Each of the four players will do a BO3 match against a member of the opposing team. The map will remain the same throughout the entire match. This ensures that a player does not get "lucky" to win a match.
When reporting the scores, each match will count as one (1) point. Matches are to be reported in the same format as before; each match in the series is considered one (1) point. The "ace match", if required, will also count as a single point.
The rule change will be explained in your matchcomms as well. This rule will take effect in week 1 matches. ALL preseason matches are to continue with the original format.
I truly hope everyone is satisfied with this new change. I believe this will extend the time of matches to a decent amount so it is worth showing up for them.
Thank you for your continued support of CEVO and your ideas to make our league more improved. So we are playing a BO3 all on the same map? As in Steppes of War or Shakuras Plateau 3 times in a row? Am I understanding that part correctly? Yes playing all bo3 games on the same map? and the home team can know away team's roster in advance, that would be a huge huge advantage in the entire match. really. That's the advantage to being the home team. Each team will have an equal number of home and away games, so they have the same advantage for half of their games. 8 home = 8 away. Do you even play Starcraft 2? You might want to elaborate on your snarky comment. As obviously CEVO is listening to the community for how to run their StarCraft 2 league. Maybe some insight behind your comment could help the league and how it should be ran, as it seems they are more than willing to make changes to how the StarCraft 2 league works. They aren't listening to the community at all or even doing research on other team leagues if they somehow rationalized a BO3 on the same map. So far CEVO has just tried to take FPS rules and put them on SC2. I want to give CEVO a chance, but they seem to be out of their comfort zone and not taking their time to figure out the SC2 community. This entire league seems forced so far.
I dont' see the problem with Meta being the starting map for all matches. If it were steppes or delta I could see the argument but meta is considered one of the better balanced maps except for close positions in tvz/pvz.
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On December 07 2010 07:04 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2010 06:55 Alou wrote:On December 07 2010 03:27 NoHrt wrote:On December 07 2010 02:15 Alou wrote:On December 06 2010 22:56 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 06 2010 15:29 nkwd wrote:On December 06 2010 14:55 CEVO Nelson wrote:On December 06 2010 14:46 Alou wrote:On December 06 2010 14:06 CEVO Nelson wrote:
Due to popular demand I have decided to make some alterations to the event. Previously, each matchup was a BO1. I have been contacted by several members of the community that requested it be changed to BO3. We will be implementing this. The rest of the format stands.
Each of the four players will do a BO3 match against a member of the opposing team. The map will remain the same throughout the entire match. This ensures that a player does not get "lucky" to win a match.
When reporting the scores, each match will count as one (1) point. Matches are to be reported in the same format as before; each match in the series is considered one (1) point. The "ace match", if required, will also count as a single point.
The rule change will be explained in your matchcomms as well. This rule will take effect in week 1 matches. ALL preseason matches are to continue with the original format.
I truly hope everyone is satisfied with this new change. I believe this will extend the time of matches to a decent amount so it is worth showing up for them.
Thank you for your continued support of CEVO and your ideas to make our league more improved. So we are playing a BO3 all on the same map? As in Steppes of War or Shakuras Plateau 3 times in a row? Am I understanding that part correctly? Yes playing all bo3 games on the same map? and the home team can know away team's roster in advance, that would be a huge huge advantage in the entire match. really. That's the advantage to being the home team. Each team will have an equal number of home and away games, so they have the same advantage for half of their games. 8 home = 8 away. Do you even play Starcraft 2? You might want to elaborate on your snarky comment. As obviously CEVO is listening to the community for how to run their StarCraft 2 league. Maybe some insight behind your comment could help the league and how it should be ran, as it seems they are more than willing to make changes to how the StarCraft 2 league works. They aren't listening to the community at all or even doing research on other team leagues if they somehow rationalized a BO3 on the same map. So far CEVO has just tried to take FPS rules and put them on SC2. I want to give CEVO a chance, but they seem to be out of their comfort zone and not taking their time to figure out the SC2 community. This entire league seems forced so far. I dont' see the problem with Meta being the starting map for all matches. If it were steppes or delta I could see the argument but meta is considered one of the better balanced maps except for close positions in tvz/pvz.
Meta being the starting map for all matches would be fine. Rotating through the maps each week for this would be fine. But having one map three times in a row (as in Delta, Delta, Delta) is bad.
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I honestly think the best system was the four 1v1 bo1's, I think it's fine with the home team being able to see the lineup, but I have 2 proposals for the home team or away team dilemna.
1. the current method is acceptable with it being the home team is allowed to choose a player after knowing which player the away team uses.
2. Another method could be that there are multiple maps allowed for the tournament. Home team chooses a map, visitor chooses a player. home team chooses a player or something along this sort.
This would still give the home team the advantage but also provide more variety. I understand that in fps such as counterstrike every team would play the same map every week, but I do not think that the same map bo3 would be quite the same as a fps in terms of excitement. I think that the BO1 would be more exciting and nerveracking.
Just my opinion.
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or even like, a 6-8 map map pool, and the home team vetoes a certain amount of maps. So the away team has 4-6 maps to choose from when setting their lineups.
example:
Mappool: Metalopolis, Lost Temple, Steppes of War, Blistering Sands, Desert oasis, Jungle Basin, Delta Quadrant.
Home Team : Veto Desert Oasis, Blistering Sands
Away Team:
Player A - Metalopolis
Player B - Lost Temple
Player C - Steppes of War
Player D - Jungle Basin
Where they choose which race plays which map, now the Home team would choose the opponents
Player A - Metalopolis - Player D
Player B - Lost Temple - Player B
Player C - Steppes of War - Player A
Player D - Jungle Basin - Player C
With the left over map being Delta Quadrant (possible forced ace match map?!?!)
Just an idea that goes along with Sechkies idea of teams choosing maps .
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Nelson and the other admins are working very hard on the rules and getting the league off the ground.
As someone mentioned yes, CEVO is generally a FPS league but as you can see from their site they are really wanting to branch into DOTA and SC2.
This is season 1, cut them some slack. Please make valid/supported posts about the rules. Keep the flame out of it. Anything that grows NA E-Sports (read SC2) as CEVO has the possibility to do is a good thing and should be embraced. Sure there will be bumps but if you look at the track record of CEVO I dont think you can argue that they do not know what they are doing.
Keep it clean and lets make this league a success so we can up the anti in the future.
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All games will be best of three.
The first map will be the scheduled map for that week. The loser of the first map will pick the next map from the map pool. If a 3rd game is required then the loser of game 2 will pick a map from the map pool.
Map Pool:
Lost Temple
Xel’Naga Caverns
Metalopolis
Scrap Station
Blistering Sands
Steppes of War
Delta Quadrant
Shakuras Plateau
Jungle Basin
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On December 07 2010 08:44 soulcrusher wrote:
All games will be best of three.
The first map will be the scheduled map for that week. The loser of the first map will pick the next map from the map pool. If a 3rd game is required then the loser of game 2 will pick a map from the map pool.
Map Pool:
Lost Temple
Xel’Naga Caverns
Metalopolis
Scrap Station
Blistering Sands
Steppes of War
Delta Quadrant
Shakuras Plateau
Jungle Basin
This is great news! Thanks for being such an understanding admin team. The community speaks and you guys have answered time and time again. I love it.
This will commence once both weeks of prelims are done yet? so we play the old format this week?
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Yes old format for the remaining preseason matches. We will be scheduling week 1 of regular season tonight after last weeks preseason games are completed. Still a couple teams that will be playing that tonight.
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On December 07 2010 06:51 Holcan wrote:
RAGEQUIT.TV will be casting ours tonight and the admins never said anything about it, so i assume its fine to have outside casting companies, as well as the CEVO branded casters.
DOWN WITH THE CLIENT FOR THE PROFESSIONAL DIVISION ! I am not worried about these teams cheating, most of them I know already, or know of them. If we are going to reveal someone to be cheating it will be done by assessing replays and confirming evidence, not finding programs on their computer !
As for the steaming you can have people cast it but it MUST be on a 5+ minute delay, we already talked to you opponents about this that is why we 'never said anything about it' to you since you already agreed to it with them. We were told Ragequit.tv can provide a delay so we told them it was fine. The problem is most popular streaming sites don't support delaying, you need special software or hardware setup to pull it off. If people agree to streams and then complain to us about 'cheating' we will have to change our policy to no outside streams at all.
The client is not going away, and it is not up for debate for any of the divisions. We have used it for many many years in many games. This is the internet, people will cheat and we aren't going to rely on JUST watching replays to determine that.
On December 07 2010 08:44 soulcrusher wrote:
All games will be best of three.
The first map will be the scheduled map for that week. The loser of the first map will pick the next map from the map pool. If a 3rd game is required then the loser of game 2 will pick a map from the map pool.
Map Pool:
Lost Temple
Xel’Naga Caverns
Metalopolis
Scrap Station
Blistering Sands
Steppes of War
Delta Quadrant
Shakuras Plateau
Jungle Basin
Also note that you cannot pick a map that has already been played previously.
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This is great news! Thanks for being such an understanding admin team. The community speaks and you guys have answered time and time again. I love it.
This will commence once both weeks of prelims are done yet? so we play the old format this week?
Agreed 100%. Thanks for hearing the will of the masses (even though there was some clear bad manner with some of the posts). I think the league will be better off with this format.
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Great decision for the map changing! I knew the league will be better and better. but one more thing, is there anyone from Ragequit.tv can share their methods to delay the stream by 5 mins plz? I am really eager to know. Thanks.
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CEVO-P Team RS vs Stoic E-Sports going down at http://l2sc.tv @ 6pm PST.
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Do like ESL, create premium membership!
They've worked around blizzards stupid entrance fee rule that way.
Btw, how could it be legal to forbid entrance fee? I mean, if you host an event of any kind, shouldn't you be able to sell tickets for it...
All these big companies, EA, Blizzard, ubisoft and so on seems to create some weird rules/user agreement for their games that probably wouldn't work IRL, but hey.. we are INTRAWEB we can write whatever we want!
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On December 09 2010 10:48 Ic3d wrote:CEVO-P Team RS vs Stoic E-Sports going down at http://l2sc.tv @ 6pm PST.
GGs Guys
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On December 09 2010 16:54 bNy wrote:
Do like ESL, create premium membership!
They've worked around blizzards stupid entrance fee rule that way.
Btw, how could it be legal to forbid entrance fee? I mean, if you host an event of any kind, shouldn't you be able to sell tickets for it...
All these big companies, EA, Blizzard, ubisoft and so on seems to create some weird rules/user agreement for their games that probably wouldn't work IRL, but hey.. we are INTRAWEB we can write whatever we want!
I understand where you are coming from, but I also understand Blizzard. If a popular artist was holding a concert at a venue near you, they sell tickets. The venue gets a percentage of that, however, the artist also gets their cut. It is the fee that is charged to the venue for bringing that persons popularity to their establishment.
Blizzard is the same way, they will let us charge entry fees, however they want $10,000 per event held. That is a sizable chunk of change.. So... as of now, we will continue with the free events.
We are in constant contact with Blizzard's licensing department, there might be some change in the near future. We will just have to see.
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i can't get my team on the ready roster. i already have 4 people who set their unique game IDs, i don't know what's wrong.
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On October 30 2010 14:10 CEVO Nelson wrote:
I am not going to contribute to this post turning into a flame war, but 1.6 and cz is dying everywhere. The lack of competition has nothing to do with how our organization is run, but that the game itself is losing competitive players. Even ESEA has less of a turnout each season.
If anyone has an issue with the client, they need to contact me and I will get it fixed for them.
You shouldn't speculate as to how ESEA is performing. We had more CS / CSS / TF2 players competing in our most recent Season 7 than in any season prior to that. We're excited at ESEA for our expansion into SC2 and have some very cool stuff planned
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I'm happy to hear it. Another strong league taking a piece of the SC2 pie will do nothing but help strengthen the game.
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Could we update the OP with the map pool and new rules? Also, a formal link to the rules on the CEVO site would be really nice.
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CEVO is holding a Qualifier tournament for the Gosu Crew and Justin.tv invitational tournament.
Check out the article on CEVO's main page.
Registration for the qualifier is open right now and ends on Sunday, Jan. 2nd. The qualifier is a one day tournament starting at 6pm CST on Tuesday, Jan. 4th. It will run non stop until completion (going to be a long night.)
The Gosu Crew/Justin.tv invitational starts on Jan. 6th.
If you need help signing up for this qualifier you can contact me directly and I can help you out.
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Awesome, thanks for putting this on guys
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And it's Gosu Crew... not GosuCoaching But thanks so much again CEVO for being awesome and holding this event for our larger tournament!
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Hi CEVO. Please change your obs rules. An outright ban on observers in games makes me, as a team organizer, want to punch myself in the face.
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On January 14 2011 11:42 tirentu wrote:
Hi CEVO. Please change your obs rules. An outright ban on observers in games makes me, as a team organizer, want to punch myself in the face.
And I, as a team organizer, feel exactly opposite, feeling that the integrity of the game trumps anyone's desire to watch. I think most of the teams in the professional division are honorable enough not to cheat, but my team has had that feeling like we've been cheated by obs, when someone gets a "little too lucky" finding the dark shrine or hidden expo just in time. Were we cheated? There's no way to know for sure, and I'm glad I don't have to worry about it in CEVO.
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On January 15 2011 00:57 v1dom wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2011 11:42 tirentu wrote:
Hi CEVO. Please change your obs rules. An outright ban on observers in games makes me, as a team organizer, want to punch myself in the face. And I, as a team organizer, feel exactly opposite, feeling that the integrity of the game trumps anyone's desire to watch. I think most of the teams in the professional division are honorable enough not to cheat, but my team has had that feeling like we've been cheated by obs, when someone gets a "little too lucky" finding the dark shrine or hidden expo just in time. Were we cheated? There's no way to know for sure, and I'm glad I don't have to worry about it in CEVO.
completely agree, and until bnet fixes the chat from being so easy for ghosting, I encourage all leagues to have a no observer rule. Not that I've felt my teams been cheated by obs in any league, they should only be allowed if the other team agrees.
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On January 15 2011 02:26 Holcan wrote:
they should only be allowed if the other team agrees.
That is exactly what I'm asking for. My CSL team is playing in CEVO-O, and the outright ban on observers and streaming for a division where nothing is on the line is very frustrating.
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On January 16 2011 05:44 tirentu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 02:26 Holcan wrote:
they should only be allowed if the other team agrees. That is exactly what I'm asking for. My CSL team is playing in CEVO-O, and the outright ban on observers and streaming for a division where nothing is on the line is very frustrating.
There is something on the line, prizes.
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I'm surprised cevo doesn't have more teams, the first season is going pretty smooth
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is it me or is the site down?
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gl guys! Should be a fun run ^_^!
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Sounds good, GL to you all!! I cant wait to get these matches started best of luck to all of the teams playing.
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As mentioned above the playoffs for Season 1 of our SC2 event has started, the first matches have a deadline of Monday the 14th the brackets are:
Pro division bracket: http://www.cevo.com/playoffs/bracket.php?id=1218
Open division bracket: http://www.cevo.com/playoffs/bracket.php?id=1216
The playoffs are using the same format as regular season, and it's double elim.
They will both be updated with scores as teams play. We were a bit lenient with teams having their games streamed without a delay during the season, but for the playoffs we will overturn matches being streaming by an observer without a 5 minute delay. If streamers are using own3d.tv with their delay they are more than welcome to cast these CEVO matches. It is the teams responsibility to know this rule and if they aren't sure if a stream has a delay on it contact me (rellis AT cevo.com or a PM) and I will make sure the streamer is using a delay or tell them they can't stream.
We will also be trying to set up official streams for these playoff matches, I will post times and links as they are agreed upon. Good luck to all the teams playing!
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Yeah if i had a reliable team i'd definately participate, but i'll most likely watch, this is gonna be great!
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On February 10 2011 15:35 byobong7 wrote:As mentioned above the playoffs for Season 1 of our SC2 event has started, the first matches have a deadline of Monday the 14th the brackets are: Pro division bracket: http://www.cevo.com/playoffs/bracket.php?id=1218Open division bracket: http://www.cevo.com/playoffs/bracket.php?id=1216The playoffs are using the same format as regular season, and it's double elim. They will both be updated with scores as teams play. We were a bit lenient with teams having their games streamed without a delay during the season, but for the playoffs we will overturn matches being streaming by an observer without a 5 minute delay. If streamers are using own3d.tv with their delay they are more than welcome to cast these CEVO matches. It is the teams responsibility to know this rule and if they aren't sure if a stream has a delay on it contact me (rellis AT cevo.com or a PM) and I will make sure the streamer is using a delay or tell them they can't stream. We will also be trying to set up official streams for these playoff matches, I will post times and links as they are agreed upon. Good luck to all the teams playing!
The pro division goes to double elimination after the first round is played, correct? (stoic vs mnm, ep vs 1ns)
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On February 10 2011 16:31 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2011 15:35 byobong7 wrote:As mentioned above the playoffs for Season 1 of our SC2 event has started, the first matches have a deadline of Monday the 14th the brackets are: Pro division bracket: http://www.cevo.com/playoffs/bracket.php?id=1218Open division bracket: http://www.cevo.com/playoffs/bracket.php?id=1216The playoffs are using the same format as regular season, and it's double elim. They will both be updated with scores as teams play. We were a bit lenient with teams having their games streamed without a delay during the season, but for the playoffs we will overturn matches being streaming by an observer without a 5 minute delay. If streamers are using own3d.tv with their delay they are more than welcome to cast these CEVO matches. It is the teams responsibility to know this rule and if they aren't sure if a stream has a delay on it contact me (rellis AT cevo.com or a PM) and I will make sure the streamer is using a delay or tell them they can't stream. We will also be trying to set up official streams for these playoff matches, I will post times and links as they are agreed upon. Good luck to all the teams playing! The pro division goes to double elimination after the first round is played, correct? (stoic vs mnm, ep vs 1ns)
Yes, sorry the first round of playoffs for pro is technically single elim so whoever loses those first two matches will be out of the playoffs.
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how do teams get moved up from O into P?
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Stuff like that isn't decided yet, but it will be a factor on how many teams we retain in pro from season 1, performance in open, and total amount of teams that sign up.
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Well if Requiem isn't in pro division next season I will be a very sad panda ;x
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The first round of playoffs is over, because of valentines day we didn't get a full stream of a game. However a vod of a game from the match between Micro and Macro vs stoic esports associated from the first round can be found here: http://e-rev.tv/index.php?page=casts_more&id=751
The second round of playoffs is being scheduled now, I will throw up a stream link as soon as we have a scheduled time.
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Congratulations to MnM for advancing, good luck in the rest of your wars
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There are plans to stream 2 of the pro matches in the next two days. Tonight e-rev.tv will be covering the match between Team rS and VT gaming, the match is scheduled to begin at 8pm EST. I will update this post with a direct link when the stream goes up, but the website is http://e-rev.tv/
The match between Micro and Macro (MnM) and NrG tomorrow at 9pm EST should also be streamed.
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Thank you, Holcan, hope to see u guys in CEVO S2
and how will the stream going to do, we have to play 4 bo3 one by one? thanks
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Round 3 of the CEVO playoffs are TONIGHT, 4 games for the Pro division are being played (All times in CENTRAL):
Upper Bracket:
sixjax.NrG vs Think Quick - at 8pm
Team EG vs Team rS - at 9pm
Lower Bracket:
elevengaming vs Eternal Plague - at 9pm
VT gaming vs stoic esports associated - at 9pm
Good luck to all the teams, I will post streams in this thread as they are confirmed and go live!
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Stream link? Supposedly the EG - rS match is being streamed, but I don't know who.
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VOD's are up for rS vs EG
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rS vs sixjax.NrG finals tonight at 8 central
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gl both teams, should be a good match. May the worse team win so NrG can beat them later.
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good games. one VOD up on e-rev.tv as well as an interview with pokebunny
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oh wow VT 4-0 EG
So its VT vs rS in the semis then..
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Am I the only one finding that the CEVO site is impossible to get to? I've been trying for weeks, and I can never get in. There is always a server not responding error.
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On March 03 2011 12:55 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
oh wow VT 4-0 EG
So its VT vs rS in the semis then..
To be completely honest, I don't think EG's lineup has many more accomplishments than ours, discluding DeMusliM and IdrA. They're a top team, but without using those two players, I wouldn't consider them a heavy favorite.
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On March 07 2011 12:43 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 12:55 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
oh wow VT 4-0 EG
So its VT vs rS in the semis then.. To be completely honest, I don't think EG's lineup has many more accomplishments than ours, discluding DeMusliM and IdrA. They're a top team, but without using those two players, I wouldn't consider them a heavy favorite.
Quoted for truth.
I Like VT in the semi's for sure over rS. Granted I hope Maker does well, he's a pretty awesome dude.
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Whoever picked the lineups for EG vs VT really dropped the ball. EG's lineup was fine, but the matchups they chose were awful. Axslav vs Azz and strifecro vs gix? Oo why give 2 mirrors when u coulda had a zvp and a pvz. I think that hurt eg a lot, since they were the upper seed and could have chosen all 4 1v1 matchups.
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On March 07 2011 13:56 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
Whoever picked the lineups for EG vs VT really dropped the ball. EG's lineup was fine, but the matchups they chose were awful. Axslav vs Azz and strifecro vs gix? Oo why give 2 mirrors when u coulda had a zvp and a pvz. I think that hurt eg a lot, since they were the upper seed and could have chosen all 4 1v1 matchups.
I'm the one who chose the lineups. First off, the starting map was Scrap Station for this match. On any other map, I would have put LzGaMeR against giX, but Lz wasn't that confident on Scrap vs. a zerg and he requested to play Future, which I allowed. giX being a zerg would have had a map advantage against Lz and Axslav, so I decided to put StrifeCro up against him because that would have canceled out the map advantage not to mention the fact that Strife is very strong ZvZ.
I chose to put Machine up against Pokebunny because he felt confident in beating him. Strife doesn't share the same confidence vs. terran. Also both Machine and Strife didn't want to play against Azz, so I was left to put Axslav against him. Ax already wasn't feeling well (not to take anything away from Azz or VT because Ax could very well of still lost 0-2 even if he was feeling 100%), but agreed to play anyways because he felt confident in winning.
I don't feel that I "dropped the ball" as you said. VT is a solid team with a nice group of players who can take wins off any top team. I applaud VT and wish them luck throughout the remainder of the playoffs.
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The lower bracket finals between rS gaming and VT gaming are TONIGHT in 1 hour (9pm Central). E-rev will be streaming the match, check their page for the stream http://e-rev.tv/ when the stream goes live I'll get a direct link. The grand finals are getting close!
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO rS!
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LET'S DO IT VT
IT'S YOU VS THEM
YOU VS NO
YOU VS CAN'T
YOU VS NEXT YEAR
LAST YEAR
STATISTICS
EXCUSES
IT'S YOU VS THE ODDS
YOU VS 2ND PLACE.
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finals tonight! NrG. vs VT at 9:00 pm est!
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I like both teams, but I'm going with NrG on this one.
Either way, good luck to both teams! Show us some GG's.
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Open division lower bracket finals are happening today.
LaG v DD
Winner joins REQ in the grand finals
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Requiem eSports wins 3-1 over Double D in the finals for CEVO Open Division. We are undefeated for the season, yay.
Oh, and our record is 21-0. Maybe we'll get into the pro division next season ;_;
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CEVO Stacraft 2 Season 1 is now over the results were:
Professional division:
1st: sixjax.NrG
2nd: VT Gaming
3rd: Team rS
Open division:
1st: Requiem eSports
2nd: Double D
3rd: Latest and Greatest Gaming
Since the season is over CEVO is now gearing up for Season 2 and other SC2 related events and we are looking for some additional staff to help out with what is coming up. If you are at all interested please read our hiring post for more information: http://www.cevo.com/index.php?page=forum&func=viewthread&id=10534&forumID=3
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