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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4540 Posts
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theqat
United States2856 Posts
 Interesting to hear from both of you about the games, and thanks for the excellent entertainment! | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On October 29 2010 10:39 Liquid`Ret wrote: drops are impossible vs 3 sensor towers 10+ vikings.. 200/200 ultra army is OK...but on those close positions there is the constant pressure of being pushed with tanks..if i lose my 200/200 ultra army once..no matter how many minerals i have i lose my main and all my tech structures...because ultras take 5 years to build..so ya. not really a great option, and i did make quite a few ultras... and took out a pf with them. Broodlord/corrupter is the only army mix that is most likely to give you an advantadge over terran in a maxed vs maxed situation...and broodlords are the only reason why qxc couldnt push out with his mass tanks...after watching the rep i think i played it out pretty well..only mistakes being at 1-1 air upgrades and not takin the base behind my main LOL yeah me and slush were like wow ret hate expos behind base, it's like u had forgotten about it, both the one in ur main and the one to the right but anyway u prob would have lacked drones for all of these | ||
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Schickysc
Canada380 Posts
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Dimenus
United States157 Posts
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Schickysc
Canada380 Posts
On October 29 2010 12:35 Dimenus wrote: can't wait for the VoDs of this apparently awesome series (which i missed while being at work QQ) Unfortunately vods will not be up by tomorrow...epic fail on my part, as I normally don't do many co-casts, fraps did not record Skype, so the commentary is completely one sided. I will have to recast the games :-( | ||
Wunder
United Kingdom2950 Posts
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JollYRoGeR
Sweden342 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On October 29 2010 15:37 JollYRoGeR wrote:if you look at the minimap it's easy to spot multiple attacks or drops. Somehow I doubt that at this level of play they really need to be tipped about this | ||
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lim1017
Canada1278 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10970 Posts
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Schickysc
Canada380 Posts
People need to realize that in order to catch all the action, you'd pretty much need to be in first person view. Their camera moves around 5x faster than ours, so that you ungrateful viewers don't get seizures. I like constructive criticism, but I'm tired of missing 1-2 drops in a bo7 series, filled with professionals playing at 150+ apm, and having the minimap garbage thrown in my face. This series was jam packed full of action and back and forth attacks, so something may go unnoticed because we are busy showing you 30 banelings destroying 2 tanks and 30 marines. Deal with it or don't watch. For now I'm going to keep donating my time casting events that high profile casters don't have the spare time to do, so that esports as a community can grow. Replays will be released soon. | ||
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Maaku
United Kingdom142 Posts
On October 29 2010 18:05 Schickysc wrote: You are a retard. Throughout the WHOLE series, I was staring at the minimap. I've heard this complaint before, which is fine. Today I tried having a co-caster, so that I could observe more and talk less, to work on my casting skills as a whole and improve based on feedback. In my defense, it's kind of hard to show you guys 2 things at once during a live game. On multiple occasions I'd point out there was multiple attacks happening, but I'd make a judgement call on which seemed more important. If you don't like it, then maybe you should be satisfied with having replays casted instead of live events, or do it yourself. People need to realize that in order to catch all the action, you'd pretty much need to be in first person view. Their camera moves around 5x faster than ours, so that you ungrateful viewers don't get seizures. I like constructive criticism, but I'm tired of missing 1-2 drops in a bo7 series, filled with professionals playing at 150+ apm, and having the minimap garbage thrown in my face. This series was jam packed full of action and back and forth attacks, so something may go unnoticed because we are busy showing you 30 banelings destroying 2 tanks and 30 marines. Deal with it or don't watch. For now I'm going to keep donating my time casting events that high profile casters don't have the spare time to do, so that esports as a community can grow. Don't call people retarded when they are right, some off the things you missed in game 3 was out right. Like qxc's gold disappearing off the map for instance while your talking about nothing in the middle off the map. That post made you seem like a little whining baby. You cast you're gonna have all the stuff you done wrong pointed out no need to be a bitch about it. Or should I put it in terms you would say deal with it or don't cast. Deal with it or don't watch, do it yourself. Don't reply to people who don't give you good feedback especially with saying such silly stuff. | ||
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magha
Netherlands427 Posts
Let me give an example; At one point ret moved his ultralisks in this heap of siege tanks / thors / missile turrets / etc, THEN attackmoved. This is to avoid 2-3 ultralisks doing damage and the rest being blocked by them. Its a very commonly and important action which you'll whenever you have a lot of melee units (with Zerglings this is done always aswell). The commentator goes wild "oh no ret what are you doing, he had it on move command". Basically the commentators should play more on higher level their selves, or stick to the actual shoutcasting and leave the analyzing part behind. | ||
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Firereaver
India1701 Posts
On October 29 2010 18:05 Schickysc wrote: You are a retard. Throughout the WHOLE series, I was staring at the minimap. I've heard this complaint before, which is fine. Today I tried having a co-caster, so that I could observe more and talk less, to work on my casting skills as a whole and improve based on feedback. In my defense, it's kind of hard to show you guys 2 things at once during a live game. On multiple occasions I'd point out there was multiple attacks happening, but I'd make a judgement call on which seemed more important. If you don't like it, then maybe you should be satisfied with having replays casted instead of live events, or do it yourself. People need to realize that in order to catch all the action, you'd pretty much need to be in first person view. Their camera moves around 5x faster than ours, so that you ungrateful viewers don't get seizures. I like constructive criticism, but I'm tired of missing 1-2 drops in a bo7 series, filled with professionals playing at 150+ apm, and having the minimap garbage thrown in my face. This series was jam packed full of action and back and forth attacks, so something may go unnoticed because we are busy showing you 30 banelings destroying 2 tanks and 30 marines. Deal with it or don't watch. For now I'm going to keep donating my time casting events that high profile casters don't have the spare time to do, so that esports as a community can grow. Hey Shicky! Don't even give these trolls the time o' the day! They aren't doing 1/100th of what you're doin for the community. And when they can do the said 1/100th i.e. giving constructive criticism, they go ahead and troll anyway, so.... | ||
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
On October 29 2010 10:39 Liquid`Ret wrote: drops are impossible vs 3 sensor towers 10+ vikings.. 200/200 ultra army is OK...but on those close positions there is the constant pressure of being pushed with tanks..if i lose my 200/200 ultra army once..no matter how many minerals i have i lose my main and all my tech structures...because ultras take 5 years to build..so ya. not really a great option, and i did make quite a few ultras... and took out a pf with them. Broodlord/corrupter is the only army mix that is most likely to give you an advantadge over terran in a maxed vs maxed situation...and broodlords are the only reason why qxc couldnt push out with his mass tanks...after watching the rep i think i played it out pretty well..only mistakes being at 1-1 air upgrades and not takin the base behind my main Yeah but if you had neural in a couple of those shoves into the 9 oclock gold (or even his outside natural) and grabbed a few of those tanks/thors, it could've gone a lot differently. I just don't see why, off 5 base, you wouldn't get the 100/100 upgrade that pays dividends in situations like this. Good play nonetheless. | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
My only complain is the miss of finall baneling bust of that base in last game. Which is kind of funny cause Scan had selected that PF ^^ so we saw how quickly it went down. Well if we think about it more its also a fail part on Scan's end (sorry scan) he should just take control back in such circumstances so we would see action and not a main army of ret resting outside qxc main base | ||
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Schickysc
Canada380 Posts
On October 29 2010 18:27 Maaku wrote: Don't call people retarded when they are right, some off the things you missed in game 3 was out right. Like qxc's gold disappearing off the map for instance while your talking about nothing in the middle off the map. That post made you seem like a little whining baby. You cast you're gonna have all the stuff you done wrong pointed out no need to be a bitch about it. Or should I put it in terms you would say deal with it or don't cast. Deal with it or don't watch, do it yourself. Don't reply to people who don't give you good feedback especially with saying such silly stuff. LOL @ You, troll. How can you even complain when you have facts wrong? Game 3 was on xelnaga caverns, and QXC never even TRIED to expand to the gold, in fact he didn't even destory the rocks. The moment he tried to take his third, muta's denied it, and we showed it. Clearly you are just complaining to be rude. This just reverts back to the constructive criticism point. | ||
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disco
Netherlands1667 Posts
On October 29 2010 19:02 Schickysc wrote: LOL @ You, troll. How can you even complain when you have facts wrong? Game 3 was on xelnaga caverns, and QXC never even TRIED to expand to the gold, in fact he didn't even destory the rocks. The moment he tried to take his third, muta's denied it, and we showed it. Clearly you are just complaining to be rude. This just reverts back to the constructive criticism point. I don't think you missed too much, casts were ok. I just don't recommend following anoher obs camera, it makes the screen jerk around alot more and you can't see the building the other obs selects. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
Please ? Or at least a "we will release/not release replays ?" | ||
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