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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 29 2010 11:42 GMT
#281
And please don't listen to people who complain all the time,, yeah the obsing was not perfect, but the show was still very entertenaing, so mission accomplished. People will complain whatever you do anyway, when you're doing stuff on the internet you have to ignore the inevitable haters.
JollYRoGeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden342 Posts
October 29 2010 11:47 GMT
#282
As I said in my previous post I think you're a good caster. But during the whole series I saw drops, sneak attacks etc.. on the minimap. I also noticed that you not very often but sometimes missed when someone moved out with his whole army, which is kind of important imo. But overall i enjoyed the casting and the series was awesome! Work on the small things and it'll be extra awesome!

Looking forward to the next series.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 11:51:23
October 29 2010 11:51 GMT
#283
I have a lot of criticism about the casting, but don't want to stir the pot too much more. Just lots of "this will be really ineffective" (when it was a good choice) or "I'd like to see this" (when it would've been a bad choice) or the "Qxc has this game in the bag" when he was eons behind. Great games, I'm glad you guys brought them to us, I really enjoyed watching, just some things to work on. I think playing more would smooth out these bumps.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
October 29 2010 14:19 GMT
#284
lot's of really bad calls during the casting, was kinda irritating but the games were good. casters need to work on their game knowledge.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
bashalisk
Profile Joined September 2010
102 Posts
October 29 2010 15:00 GMT
#285
On October 29 2010 18:05 Schickysc wrote:
You are a retard. Throughout the WHOLE series, I was staring at the minimap. I've heard this complaint before, which is fine. Today I tried having a co-caster, so that I could observe more and talk less, to work on my casting skills as a whole and improve based on feedback. In my defense, it's kind of hard to show you guys 2 things at once during a live game. On multiple occasions I'd point out there was multiple attacks happening, but I'd make a judgement call on which seemed more important. If you don't like it, then maybe you should be satisfied with having replays casted instead of live events, or do it yourself.

People need to realize that in order to catch all the action, you'd pretty much need to be in first person view. Their camera moves around 5x faster than ours, so that you ungrateful viewers don't get seizures.

I like constructive criticism, but I'm tired of missing 1-2 drops in a bo7 series, filled with professionals playing at 150+ apm, and having the minimap garbage thrown in my face. This series was jam packed full of action and back and forth attacks, so something may go unnoticed because we are busy showing you 30 banelings destroying 2 tanks and 30 marines. Deal with it or don't watch. For now I'm going to keep donating my time casting events that high profile casters don't have the spare time to do, so that esports as a community can grow.

Replays will be released soon. I probably won't recast the vods. Trolls win.

Fuck the trolls. There are people who appreciate the fact that some individuals out there cast SC2 games simply out of their love for the game, and they're doing their best to keep up with 300+ APM from two players at the same time. Notwithstanding that they don't act like the typical pretentious nerd, raging because "[Ret]'s game was inefficient" or because the unit overlay is not up.

Don't cast the replays if you don't feel like it, but don't let the assholes get to you. Keep up the good work!
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
October 29 2010 15:02 GMT
#286
On October 29 2010 19:02 Schickysc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 18:27 Maaku wrote:
Don't call people retarded when they are right, some off the things you missed in game 3 was out right. Like qxc's gold disappearing off the map for instance while your talking about nothing in the middle off the map.

That post made you seem like a little whining baby. You cast you're gonna have all the stuff you done wrong pointed out no need to be a bitch about it. Or should I put it in terms you would say deal with it or don't cast.

Deal with it or don't watch, do it yourself. Don't reply to people who don't give you good feedback especially with saying such silly stuff.


LOL @ You, troll. How can you even complain when you have facts wrong? Game 3 was on xelnaga caverns, and QXC never even TRIED to expand to the gold, in fact he didn't even destory the rocks. The moment he tried to take his third, muta's denied it, and we showed it. Clearly you are just complaining to be rude. This just reverts back to the constructive criticism point.

you definitely do not look like you're open to criticism... I don't remember everything you did wrong but I do remember you watching the base of QXC on scrap station with nothing going on there while he was moving up on creep destroying tumors getting ready to get attacked, you missed many things... just work on it, always keep an eye on minimap and show us what's going on, even if it's only clicking for 2 seconds the drop while there's an attack and coming back to the attack, we wanna see everything

minimap is ur best friend dood... if like you see a bunch of marines attacking gold expand and nothing's moving in its direction to defend it it means the player has given up on defending it and he's probably going to counter or something, so go somewhere else on the map to find out what's interesting... you would most of the time just stay there and watch until it's dead and miss some other action
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
October 29 2010 15:06 GMT
#287
any replays or vods of this?

would be cool coz missed this series...
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
CheeseGrater
Profile Joined August 2010
United States290 Posts
October 29 2010 15:11 GMT
#288
On October 29 2010 15:12 Schickysc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 12:35 Dimenus wrote:
can't wait for the VoDs of this apparently awesome series (which i missed while being at work QQ)


Unfortunately vods will not be up by tomorrow...epic fail on my part, as I normally don't do many co-casts, fraps did not record Skype, so the commentary is completely one sided. I will have to recast the games :-(


Ahh yeah I used to have this problem when I casted for C&C. One way is to start windows sound recorder at the same time you start recording and just overlap them when you encode the video. Epic games btw.
tyui89
Profile Joined October 2010
1 Post
October 29 2010 15:28 GMT
#289
SchickySC is a great caster, people are just whiners and complain and anything and everything.

ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
October 29 2010 15:33 GMT
#290
On October 30 2010 00:28 tyui89 wrote:
SchickySC is a great caster, people are just whiners and complain and anything and everything.


... me slush and fredz were actually pretty damn tilted from the mediocrity of the observing going on, we often were like "wtf is he doing there's X going on on the minimap, why isn't he showing us"

we're trying to get him to improve, not just mindlessly whining
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 29 2010 15:48 GMT
#291
On October 30 2010 00:33 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 00:28 tyui89 wrote:
SchickySC is a great caster, people are just whiners and complain and anything and everything.


... me slush and fredz were actually pretty damn tilted from the mediocrity of the observing going on, we often were like "wtf is he doing there's X going on on the minimap, why isn't he showing us"

we're trying to get him to improve, not just mindlessly whining


There are better ways to go about doing so though.
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ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
October 29 2010 16:02 GMT
#292
On October 30 2010 00:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 00:33 Fayth wrote:
On October 30 2010 00:28 tyui89 wrote:
SchickySC is a great caster, people are just whiners and complain and anything and everything.


... me slush and fredz were actually pretty damn tilted from the mediocrity of the observing going on, we often were like "wtf is he doing there's X going on on the minimap, why isn't he showing us"

we're trying to get him to improve, not just mindlessly whining


There are better ways to go about doing so though.

well I don't feel like I've been rude at all, dunno about other people
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 29 2010 16:09 GMT
#293
I won't leave this thread before replays are released :D
Schickysc
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada380 Posts
October 29 2010 17:04 GMT
#294
On October 30 2010 00:33 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 00:28 tyui89 wrote:
SchickySC is a great caster, people are just whiners and complain and anything and everything.


... me slush and fredz were actually pretty damn tilted from the mediocrity of the observing going on, we often were like "wtf is he doing there's X going on on the minimap, why isn't he showing us"

we're trying to get him to improve, not just mindlessly whining


Fayth you've never really been rude, maybe blunt, but that's fine.

Yesterday I had a terrible day. Family stuff, then work issues, then the vods not recording properly, then the trolls, I guess I let things get to me more than I should have. That tends to happen when 10 people complain, without being constructive, and pessimism kicks in and it seems like work goes unappreciated.

I will recast the replays after work today.

Shoot for the Moon, Find a Star
Schickysc
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada380 Posts
October 29 2010 17:10 GMT
#295
On October 29 2010 20:51 RogerChillingworth wrote:
I have a lot of criticism about the casting, but don't want to stir the pot too much more. Just lots of "this will be really ineffective" (when it was a good choice) or "I'd like to see this" (when it would've been a bad choice) or the "Qxc has this game in the bag" when he was eons behind. Great games, I'm glad you guys brought them to us, I really enjoyed watching, just some things to work on. I think playing more would smooth out these bumps.


Don't worry about stiring the pot. As I said before, I'm open to criticism. I admit i'm sometimes bad at predicting how things will turn out, because things can change in a split second, or something can be effective/ineffective with good/bad micro.

I definitely think playing more would help, which i've been trying to do. I played a LOT in beta phase 1, but ever since the game released, work has been extremely busy and I often have to choose to either cast or play.

Thanks for your input.
Shoot for the Moon, Find a Star
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
October 29 2010 18:15 GMT
#296
Look, shicky, what matters at the end of the day is that we got to see some awesome games thanks to you and thats what were all grateful for.

Btw, where can we get the replays?
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 18:18:59
October 29 2010 18:18 GMT
#297
On October 30 2010 03:15 magha wrote:
Look, shicky, what matters at the end of the day is that we got to see some awesome games thanks to you and thats what were all grateful for.

Btw, where can we get the replays?

That is the question :D
These games really deserve more analysis than a cast can provide (they deserve to be casted too obviously). Please, are you considering releasing replays ?
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
October 29 2010 19:10 GMT
#298
On October 29 2010 10:00 qxc wrote:
Pretty educational game. Gave me a lot of ideas and things to try out. Definitely could use a lot of refinement with my mech style of play oo



I think if you started doing those small drops earlier, you would've been in a slightly different place. I also really loved the barracks wall at the end/being ready to land right as the hatch fell. The double hatch snipe was also Bejujular
Maaku
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom142 Posts
October 29 2010 22:19 GMT
#299
On October 29 2010 19:02 Schickysc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 18:27 Maaku wrote:
Don't call people retarded when they are right, some off the things you missed in the 3rd game was out right. Like qxc's gold disappearing off the map for instance while your talking about nothing in the middle off the map.

That post made you seem like a little whining baby. You cast you're gonna have all the stuff you done wrong pointed out no need to be a bitch about it. Or should I put it in terms you would say deal with it or don't cast.

Deal with it or don't watch, do it yourself. Don't reply to people who don't give you good feedback especially with saying such silly stuff.


LOL @ You, troll. How can you even complain when you have facts wrong? Game 3 was on xelnaga caverns, and QXC never even TRIED to expand to the gold, in fact he didn't even destory the rocks. The moment he tried to take his third, muta's denied it, and we showed it. Clearly you are just complaining to be rude. This just reverts back to the constructive criticism point.


I meant the last game. Stop been such a baby or should we just start insulting each other since that seems to be you answer to been a below par caster.
tosS.ita
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
October 29 2010 22:19 GMT
#300
yo guys I hope you enjoyed the koth!

atm I'm out of town for the Starcraft 2 Lan on Lucca Comics and Games 2010!
I will be back soon!!


and Colin, thx for the cast!! keep it up !!!
aka: [Lw]Tropper, tosS[Lw], aiC)tosS, 88han-tosS
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