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Omer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Israel442 Posts
October 17 2010 00:02 GMT
#6441
On October 17 2010 09:00 enTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 09:00 Omer wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:58 enTee wrote:
what was huks famous oneliner? looks like i missed it


"Don't worry, it's Halo"

Looks like sitiational homour..can any1 explain pls?

\\thanks


He made a mothership, the crowd was chanting for it, and as soon as it popped the crowed went wild, select probably could hear it which is why huk said that
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
October 17 2010 00:02 GMT
#6442
On October 17 2010 09:00 enTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 09:00 Omer wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:58 enTee wrote:
what was huks famous oneliner? looks like i missed it


"Don't worry, it's Halo"

Looks like sitiational homour..can any1 explain pls?

\\thanks

I think the crowd cheered when he got a mothership.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
October 17 2010 00:03 GMT
#6443
On October 17 2010 08:57 EleanorRIgby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:56 kojinshugi wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:55 EleanorRIgby wrote:
all the gear you need for top arena in a week including gems and all that shit

stop spewing bullshit


They don't play tournaments with their live characters...


how do they get good practice then?


Okay, I'm just not going to talk to you since you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
whatsgrackalackin420
Turing
Profile Joined April 2010
United States211 Posts
October 17 2010 00:03 GMT
#6444
On October 17 2010 09:00 enTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 09:00 Omer wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:58 enTee wrote:
what was huks famous oneliner? looks like i missed it


"Don't worry, it's Halo"

Looks like sitiational homour..can any1 explain pls?



The crowd was chanting for a mothership. Huk made one, and the crowd went wild, obviously alerting his opponent that something was up. Huk typed in the chat, "Don't worry, thats halo" as a joke indicating that everyone was cheering for halo, and not because he just made a mothership.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
October 17 2010 00:03 GMT
#6445
On October 17 2010 09:00 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:54 VikingKong wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:52 MrCon wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:48 Ferrose wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:

On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously


That's what Halo fans say about all PC games.

Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back


thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport
not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen

MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right.


Go play PvP arena on WoW. : /

Anyway, wow can't be an esport just because it's the most boring thing to watch. I played wow a long time, PVE&PVP, at a fairly decent level, but watching WoW is like masochism.
30 minutes in the match none health has gone once under 75%, healer's mana still full, with no good obs system.

No wonder WoW doesn't draw any viewers to MLG amirite...

I don't know, do you ?


Wow has consitently been mlg's top viewed tournament.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 00:04:13
October 17 2010 00:03 GMT
#6446
On October 17 2010 08:58 enTee wrote:
what was huks famous oneliner? looks like i missed it

edit : haha 10 people said exactly the same thing faster than me :D
Qwix
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
October 17 2010 00:03 GMT
#6447
Does anyone got a replay pack out yet?
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
October 17 2010 00:04 GMT
#6448
On October 17 2010 08:54 Quotidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:

On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously


That's what Halo fans say about all PC games.

Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back


thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport
not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen


you know it's WoW arena, right? It takes just as much skill as any other competitive, team oriented game, but you're just trolling, right?


As long as you're competing in something that's not throwing dice or playing the lottery there's always going to be some measure of skill involved, the difference is the skill ceiling. StarCraft has an incredibly high skill ceiling and rewards practice much more than other games, it's not even funny. It's an inherently demanding game.

Tbh, I do think almost all other e-sports is a joke compared to it, except for maybe fighting games, and I've followed most of it.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
October 17 2010 00:04 GMT
#6449
On October 17 2010 08:57 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:54 UnholyRai wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:47 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:40 happyness wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:38 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:36 Xax wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:32 Xax wrote:
does anyone else feel that idra whined so much that blizzard overnerfed and TVZ now kinda sucks?


what? idra doesn't whine, and the points he has a problem with in ZvT were not addressed by the patches whatsoever


doublereaper-nerf? even depot before rax?

now idra's macro style can unfold EVERY single time?

how can you counter idra's muta ee han timing?


i'll say it again because apparently you didnt read it the first time: the changes in 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 did not address IdrA's concerns in ZvT whatsoever. are you even aware what his issue is? it's sure as fuck not reapers.


He seemed pretty happy with the 1.1.2 patch on SotG


thanks for your completely irrelevant comment. round three:

stating that blizzard changed the game because of how much idra whined is stupid because: what idra complains about is a completely separate issue not addressed by the patches whatsoever

jesus christ i cannot possibly be more clear than that


FakeSteve, what is IdrA concerned about in ZvT? I guess I'm not exactly in the know how, I'm a Protoss player after all ^_^'


idra is concerned about the ease with which terran can deny scouting and do many different 1base timing attacks that can require drastically different responses from zerg

while roaches getting a range buff certainly allows zerg a little more leeway to do catch-all types of builds where they just defend with larger numbers, the problem still remains and is unaddressed. zerg is still highly susceptible to strange all-in builds


The patch addressed many of the issues Idra had, hence why he was happy with the patch. Please stop being so patronising.

Onto brighter things:

Select is a hero now.

Huk had the best one liner I've ever seen in sc2.

Idra is just a beast.


yep, the patch changed several things that IdrA was happy about. that doesn't change the fact that what he feels is the overall root of the problem, which he has expressed many times, has not been fixed. why are you even in this conversation? you're just picking little holes in my post, none of which prove to anyone that blizzard changed the game because of IdrA's incessant whining, which is what i was refuting in the first place.


As I can recall, Idra frequently complained only about the early game versus Terran. He complained that Terran can do a multitude of effective builds and you wouldn't even know which one is coming. When asked how he'd change it all he says that there's something missing early game. I think the patches have most surely addressed Idra's main concern as he's comfortable dealing with any early aggression from Terran.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
October 17 2010 00:04 GMT
#6450
didn't he say

it's halo
don't worry

why is everyone quoting it backwards?
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
October 17 2010 00:04 GMT
#6451
I remember that beast setup from when i played WoW,

enha/BM/hpala which just destroyed everyone without even doing anything. They'd just run into someone press 4 buttons and that was the game. It was pathetic. I dont see how anyone can view WoW as competitive. It's a fun game, actually one of the greatest games ever made, but it is hardly competitive
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
hejog
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom9 Posts
October 17 2010 00:04 GMT
#6452
On October 17 2010 09:03 bigjenk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 09:00 MrCon wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:54 VikingKong wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:52 MrCon wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:48 Ferrose wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:

On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously


That's what Halo fans say about all PC games.

Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back


thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport
not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen

MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right.


Go play PvP arena on WoW. : /

Anyway, wow can't be an esport just because it's the most boring thing to watch. I played wow a long time, PVE&PVP, at a fairly decent level, but watching WoW is like masochism.
30 minutes in the match none health has gone once under 75%, healer's mana still full, with no good obs system.

No wonder WoW doesn't draw any viewers to MLG amirite...

I don't know, do you ?


Wow has consitently been mlg's top viewed tournament.


are the actual viewing numbers shown anywhere? I'd be really curious to see them.
Xax
Profile Joined December 2003
475 Posts
October 17 2010 00:04 GMT
#6453
On October 17 2010 08:57 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:54 UnholyRai wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:47 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:40 happyness wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:38 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:36 Xax wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:32 Xax wrote:
does anyone else feel that idra whined so much that blizzard overnerfed and TVZ now kinda sucks?


what? idra doesn't whine, and the points he has a problem with in ZvT were not addressed by the patches whatsoever


doublereaper-nerf? even depot before rax?

now idra's macro style can unfold EVERY single time?

how can you counter idra's muta ee han timing?


i'll say it again because apparently you didnt read it the first time: the changes in 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 did not address IdrA's concerns in ZvT whatsoever. are you even aware what his issue is? it's sure as fuck not reapers.


He seemed pretty happy with the 1.1.2 patch on SotG


thanks for your completely irrelevant comment. round three:

stating that blizzard changed the game because of how much idra whined is stupid because: what idra complains about is a completely separate issue not addressed by the patches whatsoever

jesus christ i cannot possibly be more clear than that


FakeSteve, what is IdrA concerned about in ZvT? I guess I'm not exactly in the know how, I'm a Protoss player after all ^_^'


idra is concerned about the ease with which terran can deny scouting and do many different 1base timing attacks that can require drastically different responses from zerg

while roaches getting a range buff certainly allows zerg a little more leeway to do catch-all types of builds where they just defend with larger numbers, the problem still remains and is unaddressed. zerg is still highly susceptible to strange all-in builds


The patch addressed many of the issues Idra had, hence why he was happy with the patch. Please stop being so patronising.

Onto brighter things:

Select is a hero now.

Huk had the best one liner I've ever seen in sc2.

Idra is just a beast.


yep, the patch changed several things that IdrA was happy about. that doesn't change the fact that what he feels is the overall root of the problem, which he has expressed many times, has not been fixed. why are you even in this conversation? you're just picking little holes in my post, none of which prove to anyone that blizzard changed the game because of IdrA's incessant whining, which is what i was refuting in the first place.


The funny thing is that Protoss never seemed to complain about not being able to scout although it costs a Protoss

250 / 200 to get an observer out and he has a robo after that
but it costs zerg 250 / 200 as well to get overlord speed which also gets zerg a lair...

the obs is cloaked but losing an observer to a scan costs the protoss 50/100 and losing an overlord because the fly-by didn't work only costs 100. just other mechanics, idra was complaining about something he didnt figure out yet, he got overlord speed in every single game now and we're going to see it used as the zerg scouting method in the future I am sure. IF (!!) blizzard pays attention to pro's complaining then they nerfed the reapers which was basically fine but overnerfed a bit with 1.1.2 although for idra the problem kinda solved itself already?

Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
October 17 2010 00:04 GMT
#6454
On October 17 2010 09:03 Qwix wrote:
Does anyone got a replay pack out yet?


Just go to the bracket on MLG's site. The replays are all there.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
October 17 2010 00:04 GMT
#6455
On October 17 2010 08:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:47 PlaGuE_R wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:40 happyness wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:38 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:36 Xax wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:32 Xax wrote:
does anyone else feel that idra whined so much that blizzard overnerfed and TVZ now kinda sucks?


what? idra doesn't whine, and the points he has a problem with in ZvT were not addressed by the patches whatsoever


doublereaper-nerf? even depot before rax?

now idra's macro style can unfold EVERY single time?

how can you counter idra's muta ee han timing?


i'll say it again because apparently you didnt read it the first time: the changes in 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 did not address IdrA's concerns in ZvT whatsoever. are you even aware what his issue is? it's sure as fuck not reapers.


He seemed pretty happy with the 1.1.2 patch on SotG


thanks for your completely irrelevant comment. round three:

stating that blizzard changed the game because of how much idra whined is stupid because: what idra complains about is a completely separate issue not addressed by the patches whatsoever

jesus christ i cannot possibly be more clear than that


FakeSteve, what is IdrA concerned about in ZvT? I guess I'm not exactly in the know how, I'm a Protoss player after all ^_^'


idra is concerned about the ease with which terran can deny scouting and do many different 1base timing attacks that can require drastically different responses from zerg

while roaches getting a range buff certainly allows zerg a little more leeway to do catch-all types of builds where they just defend with larger numbers, the problem still remains and is unaddressed. zerg is still highly susceptible to strange all-in builds


oh, ok, thank you. That does make a lot of sense with wall in and marine popping out really early.
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 00:06:34
October 17 2010 00:05 GMT
#6456
On October 17 2010 09:02 Omer wrote:

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:
Anyway, wow can't be an esport just because it's the most boring thing to watch. I played wow a long time, PVE&PVP, at a fairly decent level, but watching WoW is like masochism.
30 minutes in the match none health has gone once under 75%, healer's mana still full, with no good obs system.


That's bs, i've played over 3000 matches of wow arena, at the 2.2k+ level, if your dumb enough to let a healer redrink up to 100% mana after 10+ minutes of constant pressure, you might aswell quit.

I actualy watched nearly ALL MLG raleigh wow games. I was just describing them, I quited wow already a long time ago.
Turing
Profile Joined April 2010
United States211 Posts
October 17 2010 00:06 GMT
#6457
On October 17 2010 09:04 Zzoram wrote:
didn't he say

it's halo
don't worry

why is everyone quoting it backwards?


Yeah you're right. Seemed more natural to say it the other way, my bad.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 00:07:33
October 17 2010 00:06 GMT
#6458
On October 17 2010 08:58 bigjenk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:54 VikingKong wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:52 MrCon wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:48 Ferrose wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:

On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously


That's what Halo fans say about all PC games.

Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back


thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport
not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen

MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right.


Go play PvP arena on WoW. : /

Anyway, wow can't be an esport just because it's the most boring thing to watch. I played wow a long time, PVE&PVP, at a fairly decent level, but watching WoW is like masochism.
30 minutes in the match none health has gone once under 75%, healer's mana still full, with no good obs system.

No wonder WoW doesn't draw any viewers to MLG amirite...


Watching arena is a bit difficult because there is literally 10 times as much stuff for commentators to pay attention to.


It's much much easier to follow starcraft II because it's a 1on1 and every actions are very explicit. In WoW there are much mindgames and teamworks, let alone the fact that you need to know a TON of spell and exactly why the players react to them the way they do. It's already hard to follow when you are playing it, but when you're watching you're often time completely lost or don't see anything about what is really going on (what the players really are aiming for).

To sum it up, it can be very enjoyable when you have yourself the experience of high level arena, but it's really boring when you don't and commentators can't do much to help you understand, you have to experience it yourself.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 17 2010 00:06 GMT
#6459
On October 17 2010 09:04 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 09:03 Qwix wrote:
Does anyone got a replay pack out yet?


Just go to the bracket on MLG's site. The replays are all there.

Day 1 replays are up now, day 2 replays should be up by tomorrow.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
October 17 2010 00:06 GMT
#6460
On October 17 2010 08:57 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:57 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:56 kojinshugi wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:55 EleanorRIgby wrote:
all the gear you need for top arena in a week including gems and all that shit

stop spewing bullshit


They don't play tournaments with their live characters...


how do they get good practice then?


eh when what ur saying gets massively proven wrong don't come back by saying something REALLY stupid

unless ur actually asking a serious question in which case i have to say "how do you think?"



well can they fucking practice on MLG servers 24/7??
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