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On October 17 2010 08:48 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously That's what Halo fans say about all PC games. Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right. Go play PvP arena on WoW. : /
oh yeah, lets make the players play eachother. that'll make it competitive for sure.
however being an rpg the more hours you put into the account the stronger you are LOL..
you can tell its broken just by reading it
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On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously That's what Halo fans say about all PC games. Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right.
If you don't think there is skill in wow pvp at all then you haven't played it or if you have you were at scrub ratings.
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On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously That's what Halo fans say about all PC games. Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right.
Why is that not right? People are having fun playing and watching the game so while MLG makes money the players and fans get what they pay for. It's called entertainment.
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On October 17 2010 08:49 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:47 Brent00 wrote:On October 17 2010 08:46 MrCon wrote:
After this tourney :
- I love select and will follow him now, like Fenix after last week IEM
- I love huk, he seems very kind, smart and spiritual. That "It's Halo, don't worry" was so funny :D Really, he seems spiritual? Hm, I'm french, perhaps spiritual doesn't mean what I think it means ?
Its close, but saying he's spiritual implies that he believes in something supernatural, he may just believe in nature and science. People use it the way you do in america all the time Its just a pet peeve of mine because it doesn't actually describe what they mean in an accurate way
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On October 17 2010 08:47 PlaGuE_R wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 17 2010 08:40 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 17 2010 08:36 Xax wrote:On October 17 2010 08:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 17 2010 08:32 Xax wrote:
does anyone else feel that idra whined so much that blizzard overnerfed and TVZ now kinda sucks? what? idra doesn't whine, and the points he has a problem with in ZvT were not addressed by the patches whatsoever doublereaper-nerf? even depot before rax? now idra's macro style can unfold EVERY single time? how can you counter idra's muta ee han timing? i'll say it again because apparently you didnt read it the first time: the changes in 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 did not address IdrA's concerns in ZvT whatsoever. are you even aware what his issue is? it's sure as fuck not reapers. He seemed pretty happy with the 1.1.2 patch on SotG thanks for your completely irrelevant comment. round three: stating that blizzard changed the game because of how much idra whined is stupid because: what idra complains about is a completely separate issue not addressed by the patches whatsoeverjesus christ i cannot possibly be more clear than that FakeSteve, what is IdrA concerned about in ZvT? I guess I'm not exactly in the know how, I'm a Protoss player after all ^_^'
idra is concerned about the ease with which terran can deny scouting and do many different 1base timing attacks that can require drastically different responses from zerg
while roaches getting a range buff certainly allows zerg a little more leeway to do catch-all types of builds where they just defend with larger numbers, the problem still remains and is unaddressed. zerg is still highly susceptible to strange all-in builds
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On October 17 2010 08:50 Sad Hermit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:48 Ferrose wrote:On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously That's what Halo fans say about all PC games. Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right. Go play PvP arena on WoW. : / oh yeah, lets make the players play eachother. that'll make it competitive for sure. however being an rpg the more hours you put into the account the stronger you are LOL.. you can tell its broken just by reading it
......uhhhh......fucking WHAT?
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On October 17 2010 08:47 PlaGuE_R wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 17 2010 08:40 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 17 2010 08:36 Xax wrote:On October 17 2010 08:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 17 2010 08:32 Xax wrote:
does anyone else feel that idra whined so much that blizzard overnerfed and TVZ now kinda sucks? what? idra doesn't whine, and the points he has a problem with in ZvT were not addressed by the patches whatsoever doublereaper-nerf? even depot before rax? now idra's macro style can unfold EVERY single time? how can you counter idra's muta ee han timing? i'll say it again because apparently you didnt read it the first time: the changes in 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 did not address IdrA's concerns in ZvT whatsoever. are you even aware what his issue is? it's sure as fuck not reapers. He seemed pretty happy with the 1.1.2 patch on SotG thanks for your completely irrelevant comment. round three: stating that blizzard changed the game because of how much idra whined is stupid because: what idra complains about is a completely separate issue not addressed by the patches whatsoeverjesus christ i cannot possibly be more clear than that FakeSteve, what is IdrA concerned about in ZvT? I guess I'm not exactly in the know how, I'm a Protoss player after all ^_^'
I'm not sure he knows either.
The factory requirement for nitro packs killed reapers. Depot b4 rax is incidental. No fast cheese anymore, but 5 rax reaper is gone for good.
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On October 17 2010 08:50 Sad Hermit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:48 Ferrose wrote:On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously That's what Halo fans say about all PC games. Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right. Go play PvP arena on WoW. : / oh yeah, lets make the players play eachother. that'll make it competitive for sure. however being an rpg the more hours you put into the account the stronger you are LOL.. you can tell its broken just by reading it
The thing is, theres a point where people have the same gear, and thats where the real competition comes, you must be trolling or very dense
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On October 17 2010 08:50 Sad Hermit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:48 Ferrose wrote:On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously That's what Halo fans say about all PC games. Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right. Go play PvP arena on WoW. : / oh yeah, lets make the players play eachother. that'll make it competitive for sure. however being an rpg the more hours you put into the account the stronger you are LOL.. you can tell its broken just by reading it
That's what Halo is. We make the players play each other. What, do you want competitive campaign?
And with shooter games the more time you put into it the better you are as well. : /
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On October 17 2010 08:50 Sad Hermit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:48 Ferrose wrote:On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously That's what Halo fans say about all PC games. Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right. Go play PvP arena on WoW. : / oh yeah, lets make the players play eachother. that'll make it competitive for sure. however being an rpg the more hours you put into the account the stronger you are LOL.. you can tell its broken just by reading it
...really you can have all the gear you need in much less time a week than most top sc2 players spend. Shit i mean idra spends what 80 hours a week playing.
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On October 17 2010 08:50 Sad Hermit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:48 Ferrose wrote:On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously That's what Halo fans say about all PC games. Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right. Go play PvP arena on WoW. : / oh yeah, lets make the players play eachother. that'll make it competitive for sure. however being an rpg the more hours you put into the account the stronger you are LOL.. you can tell its broken just by reading it
Yeah fuck it's totally retarded that Blizzard doesn't give them standardized accounts for the tournaments! They must be stupid! oh wait...
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On October 17 2010 08:48 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously That's what Halo fans say about all PC games. Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right. Go play PvP arena on WoW. : /
Anyway, wow can't be an esport just because it's the most boring thing to watch. I played wow a long time, PVE&PVP, at a fairly decent level, but watching WoW is like masochism.
30 minutes in the match none health has gone once under 75%, healer's mana still full, with no good obs system.
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On October 17 2010 08:50 Sad Hermit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:48 Ferrose wrote:On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously That's what Halo fans say about all PC games. Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right. Go play PvP arena on WoW. : / oh yeah, lets make the players play eachother. that'll make it competitive for sure. however being an rpg the more hours you put into the account the stronger you are LOL.. you can tell its broken just by reading it
Can you actually shut the fuck up, if you don't know anything about it? You are making yourself look like a fucking moron.
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On October 17 2010 08:46 kojinshugi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:45 wxwx wrote:On October 17 2010 08:43 MICHELLE wrote:On October 17 2010 08:39 Sad Hermit wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously i agree.. mlg having WoW and not CS or CSS Someone needs to get smacked. You are soooo clueless, lol competitive WoW? oxymoron right there. Har har. If it's not your thing, don't watch it, but it's definitely a legitimate competition.
I'm all for e-sports but competitive WoW is a joke. It makes e-sports look silly. It's all about getting lucky with crits and stupid 1-shots, and the combo you play. You cant have so much luck in a competitive game, and it's stupid when you know who's going to win solely based on the classes they play.
Halo, SC2, Tekken, those are actually competitive games.
Edit: Oh, and it is so terrible to watch, unwatchable, actually. All you see are 6 healthbars, and that's all you can really watch. You dont get the greater view, you can only watch 1 guy at a time.
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On October 17 2010 08:51 Brent00 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:49 MrCon wrote:On October 17 2010 08:47 Brent00 wrote:On October 17 2010 08:46 MrCon wrote:
After this tourney :
- I love select and will follow him now, like Fenix after last week IEM
- I love huk, he seems very kind, smart and spiritual. That "It's Halo, don't worry" was so funny :D Really, he seems spiritual? Hm, I'm french, perhaps spiritual doesn't mean what I think it means ? Its close, but saying he's spiritual implies that he believes in something supernatural, he may just believe in nature and science. People use it the way you do in america all the time Its just a pet peeve of mine because it doesn't actually describe what they mean in an accurate way
Nature and science aren't supernatural though. The definition of supernatural is something beyond nature.
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On October 17 2010 08:48 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously That's what Halo fans say about all PC games. Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right. Go play PvP arena on WoW. : /
the out come is drastically decided outside of the game beginning. Counter comps and gear are a massive factor that neither side can control when the game begins. Hence the game and experience is immediately cheapened due to this.
I don't even bother watching WoW streams because 90% of the time the game is decided before the match has begun. I'd love to see the fans and the enjoyment people get from wow to shift over to sc2 just because of the immense enjoyment people get out of matches.
Also watch a WoW tourny that shift is as boring as sin.
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On October 17 2010 08:44 Cade)Flayer wrote:
You can see the weakness of this type of tourney compared to a Korean style tourney where SeleCT ends up having to play over 20 games in 1 day to win compared to being able to have a BO7 with fully rested players in GSL.
Was still fun though and that was a gluttony of SC2 but by the time it got the finals the hype was lacking.
But Select wouldnt even have been in the finals if it wasnt for double elim. Select was the second best player in the tournament which the double elim showed. Single elimination often has too many upsets in my opinion.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On October 17 2010 08:52 Logo2010 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:47 PlaGuE_R wrote:On October 17 2010 08:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 17 2010 08:40 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 17 2010 08:36 Xax wrote:On October 17 2010 08:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 17 2010 08:32 Xax wrote:
does anyone else feel that idra whined so much that blizzard overnerfed and TVZ now kinda sucks? what? idra doesn't whine, and the points he has a problem with in ZvT were not addressed by the patches whatsoever doublereaper-nerf? even depot before rax? now idra's macro style can unfold EVERY single time? how can you counter idra's muta ee han timing? i'll say it again because apparently you didnt read it the first time: the changes in 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 did not address IdrA's concerns in ZvT whatsoever. are you even aware what his issue is? it's sure as fuck not reapers. He seemed pretty happy with the 1.1.2 patch on SotG thanks for your completely irrelevant comment. round three: stating that blizzard changed the game because of how much idra whined is stupid because: what idra complains about is a completely separate issue not addressed by the patches whatsoeverjesus christ i cannot possibly be more clear than that FakeSteve, what is IdrA concerned about in ZvT? I guess I'm not exactly in the know how, I'm a Protoss player after all ^_^' I'm not sure he knows either. The factory requirement for nitro packs killed reapers. Depot b4 rax is incidental. No fast cheese anymore, but 5 rax reaper is gone for good.
thx for posting baseless conjecture about what i do and do not know
+ Show Spoiler +^^^easily the most hypocritical thing posted ITT LOL
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On October 17 2010 08:50 Sad Hermit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:48 Ferrose wrote:On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously That's what Halo fans say about all PC games. Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right. Go play PvP arena on WoW. : / oh yeah, lets make the players play eachother. that'll make it competitive for sure. however being an rpg the more hours you put into the account the stronger you are LOL.. you can tell its broken just by reading it
Are you retarded?
They play on tourney servers with premade characters.
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On October 17 2010 08:53 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 08:51 Brent00 wrote:On October 17 2010 08:49 MrCon wrote:On October 17 2010 08:47 Brent00 wrote:On October 17 2010 08:46 MrCon wrote:
After this tourney :
- I love select and will follow him now, like Fenix after last week IEM
- I love huk, he seems very kind, smart and spiritual. That "It's Halo, don't worry" was so funny :D Really, he seems spiritual? Hm, I'm french, perhaps spiritual doesn't mean what I think it means ? Its close, but saying he's spiritual implies that he believes in something supernatural, he may just believe in nature and science. People use it the way you do in america all the time Its just a pet peeve of mine because it doesn't actually describe what they mean in an accurate way Nature and science aren't supernatural though. The definition of supernatural is something beyond nature.
Yeah exactly, thats why spiritual doesn't work  ))
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