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bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
October 16 2010 23:46 GMT
#6361
Also with people saying that the patch did nothing to affect the zvt games are you forgetting that idra can ignore early reapers now if he gets a queen out normally and fast expands. For a macro player like idra pretty much knowing they have until a factory is up and hellions can cross the map to see any sort of pressure zvt and that he can shut it down with almost no units and a couple spines is huge.

You could see how much early reaper harass threw idra off his game in the finals a while ago with morrow.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
MrEaux
Profile Joined June 2010
United States165 Posts
October 16 2010 23:47 GMT
#6362
Hmm, would have like to have seen a highlights reel/recap of mlg or some more pomp and circumstance for the champion. At least give the guy a blue ribbon or something
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
October 16 2010 23:47 GMT
#6363
On October 17 2010 08:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:40 happyness wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:38 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:36 Xax wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:32 Xax wrote:
does anyone else feel that idra whined so much that blizzard overnerfed and TVZ now kinda sucks?


what? idra doesn't whine, and the points he has a problem with in ZvT were not addressed by the patches whatsoever


doublereaper-nerf? even depot before rax?

now idra's macro style can unfold EVERY single time?

how can you counter idra's muta ee han timing?


i'll say it again because apparently you didnt read it the first time: the changes in 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 did not address IdrA's concerns in ZvT whatsoever. are you even aware what his issue is? it's sure as fuck not reapers.


He seemed pretty happy with the 1.1.2 patch on SotG


thanks for your completely irrelevant comment. round three:

stating that blizzard changed the game because of how much idra whined is stupid because: what idra complains about is a completely separate issue not addressed by the patches whatsoever

jesus christ i cannot possibly be more clear than that


FakeSteve, what is IdrA concerned about in ZvT? I guess I'm not exactly in the know how, I'm a Protoss player after all ^_^'
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
Turing
Profile Joined April 2010
United States211 Posts
October 16 2010 23:47 GMT
#6364
idra has been soooo much better in terms of BM and interviews. GJ to Artosis on that.
Brent00
Profile Joined July 2010
United States15 Posts
October 16 2010 23:47 GMT
#6365
On October 17 2010 08:46 MrCon wrote:
After this tourney :
- I love select and will follow him now, like Fenix after last week IEM
- I love huk, he seems very kind, smart and spiritual. That "It's Halo, don't worry" was so funny :D

Really, he seems spiritual?
LIVE BY THE SWORD, DIE BY DIABETES
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
October 16 2010 23:47 GMT
#6366
On October 17 2010 08:44 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:42 Zzoram wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:42 zoLo wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:41 Zzoram wrote:
Is SeleCT on a team? Would he be willing to join TL-oGs?


He is on Dignitas.. which is why it says Team Dignitas on his sweater.


Is that team good? Why is he on it?


That team is solid and good.

Owns one of the best tf2 squad in EU, good CoD team and alot more.


They also got one of the better wow team (hydra, kalimist, ... ), atleast when I last checked.
SadStarcraft
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico56 Posts
October 16 2010 23:48 GMT
#6367
On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously


That's what Halo fans say about all PC games.

Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back


thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport
not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen

MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right.
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
October 16 2010 23:48 GMT
#6368
On October 17 2010 08:42 proxY_ wrote:
Terran is going to have to figure out new builds for playing against zerg, the current model is based on harassment and that just doesn't seem to be viable with the roach range and the nerf to reapers.

Off the top of my head I would think that bunker expands into traditional marine mech pushes would work. I look forward to the GSL next week, we should see some inventive stuff.


This pretty much. Early game harassment was the strong suit of Terrans and largely the reason why Zerg was doing poorly and complaining, now that they are able to deal with it, harassment doesn't seem like a viable option at all...
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
October 16 2010 23:48 GMT
#6369
On October 17 2010 08:46 Reedy wrote:
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On October 17 2010 08:45 Nick_54 wrote:
Personally, I love the double elimination format, favors the players with the most skill. I hope they keep it.

Also, congrats to Idra and Select, great performances and play by both. Hoping to see select in GSL 3


I have to agree but I would still like to see a straight up BO5 or BO7 final. I mimagine most spectators would as well.


Yes maybe, but it would be unfair to the winner then I think. The only reason this one turned out anticlimactic was because Idra was just playing much better. If Select somehow managed to win the first series 2-1 and then Idra won the second series 2-1. It would seem just as epic as a bo5 in my opinion.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 23:49:37
October 16 2010 23:48 GMT
#6370
On October 17 2010 08:47 Turing wrote:
idra has been soooo much better in terms of BM and interviews. GJ to Artosis on that.

Ladder matches are a different story lol, but he's one of the most professional players I've seen when it comes to interviews and LAN tournament play. Good for him.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
October 16 2010 23:48 GMT
#6371
On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:

On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously


That's what Halo fans say about all PC games.

Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back


thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport
not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen

MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right.


Go play PvP arena on WoW. : /
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vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
October 16 2010 23:49 GMT
#6372
On October 17 2010 08:47 PlaGuE_R wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:42 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:40 happyness wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:38 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:36 Xax wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:32 Xax wrote:
does anyone else feel that idra whined so much that blizzard overnerfed and TVZ now kinda sucks?


what? idra doesn't whine, and the points he has a problem with in ZvT were not addressed by the patches whatsoever


doublereaper-nerf? even depot before rax?

now idra's macro style can unfold EVERY single time?

how can you counter idra's muta ee han timing?


i'll say it again because apparently you didnt read it the first time: the changes in 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 did not address IdrA's concerns in ZvT whatsoever. are you even aware what his issue is? it's sure as fuck not reapers.


He seemed pretty happy with the 1.1.2 patch on SotG


thanks for your completely irrelevant comment. round three:

stating that blizzard changed the game because of how much idra whined is stupid because: what idra complains about is a completely separate issue not addressed by the patches whatsoever

jesus christ i cannot possibly be more clear than that


FakeSteve, what is IdrA concerned about in ZvT? I guess I'm not exactly in the know how, I'm a Protoss player after all ^_^'

The fact that it's practically impossible to scout a terran pre-overseer unless the T is playing bad/making mistakes/has everything at his ramp, that was his main concern I believe.
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
October 16 2010 23:49 GMT
#6373
On October 17 2010 08:42 proxY_ wrote:
Terran is going to have to figure out new builds for playing against zerg, the current model is based on harassment and that just doesn't seem to be viable with the roach range and the nerf to reapers.

Off the top of my head I would think that bunker expands into traditional marine mech pushes would work. I look forward to the GSL next week, we should see some inventive stuff.


Hey, thats exactly what i thought like an hour ago! With all that hatch before pool stuff terrans should be able to bunker expand nearly as early and get quick tanks for further defense. If they manage to shut down muta harass, they will be even, not behind because some harass failed and they have yet to expand.

I already can see games coming, where the terran scouts early expands, responds with a early expand which gets scouted by the zerg, who cancels his hatch and goes for an 1base roach push. Great mindgames incoming!
workers, supply, money, workers, supply, money, workers, ...
Brent00
Profile Joined July 2010
United States15 Posts
October 16 2010 23:49 GMT
#6374
On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:

On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously


That's what Halo fans say about all PC games.

Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back


thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport
not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen

MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right.

Why is it not right? Its I would say WoW and halo have similar skill levels, so basically you want nothing but quake live and sc? Its weird that you think them popularizing esports is bad because you don't think the games are competition material. Elitist doubag
LIVE BY THE SWORD, DIE BY DIABETES
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
October 16 2010 23:49 GMT
#6375
On October 17 2010 08:45 wxwx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:43 MICHELLE wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:39 Sad Hermit wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously


i agree.. mlg having WoW and not CS or CSS

Someone needs to get smacked.


You are soooo clueless, lol


competitive WoW?

oxymoron right there.


Brings more viewership to mlg than any of the other games. The game also requires much more game sense than shooters at high levels. I agree its not as stably balanced as sc2 but there is no denying it takes just as much if not more skill than most other competitive games at the top level.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
October 16 2010 23:49 GMT
#6376
Very deserving win for Idra. His first tourny win post-beta. Finally some results from a great player.

Not only did he win, he dominated most of his opponents.

Good sign for the GSL.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 16 2010 23:49 GMT
#6377
On October 17 2010 08:47 Brent00 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:46 MrCon wrote:
After this tourney :
- I love select and will follow him now, like Fenix after last week IEM
- I love huk, he seems very kind, smart and spiritual. That "It's Halo, don't worry" was so funny :D

Really, he seems spiritual?

Hm, I'm french, perhaps spiritual doesn't mean what I think it means ?
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
October 16 2010 23:49 GMT
#6378
On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:

On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously


That's what Halo fans say about all PC games.

Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back


thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport
not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen

MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right.


You're just stupid, any games is welcome if its competitive and helps esport to grow. The skill is more in the teamplay but its skill nonetheless.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
October 16 2010 23:50 GMT
#6379
stop the wow bashing you fucking pc gamer elitists, op level arena has quite a bit of skill involved
savior did nothing wrong
Turing
Profile Joined April 2010
United States211 Posts
October 16 2010 23:50 GMT
#6380
On October 17 2010 08:48 Sad Hermit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 08:42 happyness wrote:

On October 17 2010 08:38 hugman wrote:
Competitive WoW lol, such a joke
I get why e-sports isn't taken seriously


That's what Halo fans say about all PC games.

Really it's attitudes like yours that are holding e-sports back


thats dumb, WoW is not and should not be regarded as an E-sport
not until there's a real skill basis for a game like that but its an mmoRPG so thats not going to happen

MLG and other leagues that have WoW as a league game are just trying to make money off a game thats extremely popular and thats not right.


If it was something like competitive raiding, I'd agree, but they use a format that has nothing to do with the mmo parts of WoW. It is still nothing near SC, but WoW arena can be very competitive still.
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