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Logo2010
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
October 16 2010 20:35 GMT
#3881
On October 17 2010 05:33 calin wrote:
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On October 17 2010 05:30 Frack wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:29 groms wrote:
I don't understand why people are so upset at Select he played better plain and simple.

People are upset because those were perhaps the 3 most boring games to watch, and that syle is boring to watch, regardless of how well executed.


Speak for yourself..I thought those games were awesome. Great back and forth play..and I play Zerg..

I think so too. Positioning and timing is what it's about when players are of an equally high level. Unit composition most of the time picks itself. These guys didn't program the game Blizzard did.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
October 16 2010 20:35 GMT
#3882
I dont know how people found that the last 3 games are boring... I was quite exciting watching battles going on back and forth all the time.
How is 3 gates 1 robo stalkers and collossus timing push is more exciting?
Terran
Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 20:36:20
October 16 2010 20:35 GMT
#3883
^ beat me to it

I don't get why people think MMM is boring. Those games were back and forth constantly, Select showed great micro and was attacking on multiple fronts at once in a couple of the games. I wonder why we didn't see this much whining in TvP in Broodwar where every Terran went Tank Vulture.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
October 16 2010 20:36 GMT
#3884
On October 17 2010 05:32 GGruss wrote:
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On October 17 2010 05:28 Lann555 wrote:
I'm not saying that Terran bio is OP vs toss, but it is quite boring to watch. 90% of TvP come down to MMM balls and endless stim-kiting.


Exactly. Nothing wrong about Select, of course you do what works. Let blizzard etc worry about that it is boring to watch. Cause it is.


Ye, not blaming the players here. With money on the line I expect the players to do whatever the hell wins the games. I just fear for the future of this matchup as it's becoming horribly predictable/stale and I don't see a way out of it. Any sort of mech play is just unworkable vs toss and even just mixing in a few tanks is usually an inferior choice to getting just more MMM
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Tevinhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom470 Posts
October 16 2010 20:36 GMT
#3885
Rofl @ this guy who looks like Wario.
mati
Profile Joined October 2010
Argentina114 Posts
October 16 2010 20:36 GMT
#3886
Look there is a girl on the event, lets get her on camera as much as possible!!

xD
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
October 16 2010 20:36 GMT
#3887
On October 17 2010 05:32 Burn2Memory wrote:
I love everyone bashing select because of how he played. It really just shows that a lot of people on this site don't understand what makes a good player good, and instead think it all comes down to making mmm and 1aing like every bronze leaguer can do.

I also imagine a lot of people bashing select will cheer for idra(Who pretty much does the same build every game).

Select plays strong without gimmicks, and won. Nony tried gimmicky strats and lost. I don't see why Select is being bashed here. Blows my mind.


What different "build" would you like to see from a non-cheesy zerg, if i may ask ?

9 spire ? 14 ultra cavern ? 3x pool push ?

He is doing the only 3-4 builds that work and exist.
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
October 16 2010 20:36 GMT
#3888
On October 17 2010 05:33 hmunkey wrote:
People aren't complaining because SeleCT is cheesing or being gimmicky, he's just boring to watch. As spectators to what purports itself as a spectator esport, it's incredibly boring to watch a player make 3 units with 1 or 2 additional ones every game in a row, utilizing no variation in strategy whatsoever. Yes, his control is phenomenal. Yes, he does it perfectly, but MMM isn't new nor is it creative.

Well I can only speak as a terran player, but I love watching Select play. I suppose it might take a terran to recognize that even if I can 1a a bio ball and come with 70% of the effectiveness of his push that way, his micro to get it up to 100% is very impressive and fun to watch.
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
October 16 2010 20:36 GMT
#3889
My biggest problem with Terran at this point is from a spectator's point of view. Good Terran execution isn't as exciting or fun to watch as Zerg or Protoss.
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
October 16 2010 20:36 GMT
#3890
On October 17 2010 05:24 Frack wrote:
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On October 17 2010 05:23 StarSense wrote:
hi, my name is select and i build marauders

Pretty much, its boring to watch and stupidly effective against everything :/ and it requires no teching at all


Oh please, as if gateway units require "teching".

Does everything really have to be colored by these childish anti-terran attitudes?
whatsgrackalackin420
Ryzu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States369 Posts
October 16 2010 20:36 GMT
#3891
Indiana Jones in the back with glasses.
drhojo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States53 Posts
October 16 2010 20:37 GMT
#3892
On October 17 2010 05:35 Caphe wrote:
I dont know how people found that the last 3 games are boring... I was quite exciting watching battles going on back and forth all the time.
How is 3 gates 1 robo stalkers and collossus timing push is more exciting?

i agree i really enjoyed the back and forth. Select played amazing for a guy who was down a game and had his back to the wall, mad props to him.
You take nothing to the grave; live your life being brave.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
October 16 2010 20:37 GMT
#3893
On October 17 2010 05:33 hmunkey wrote:
People aren't complaining because SeleCT is cheesing or being gimmicky, he's just boring to watch. As spectators to what purports itself as a spectator esport, it's incredibly boring to watch a player make 3 units with 1 or 2 additional ones every game in a row, utilizing no variation in strategy whatsoever. Yes, his control is phenomenal. Yes, he does it perfectly, but MMM isn't new nor is it creative.


if it's not broke don't fix it.. if MMM is working why change..

I actually didn't find those games boring... but I am a big Tyler fan, so I was pretty in to it... it's more entertaining when your rooting for someone.. also that meta game was pretty entertaining... Not the best games of the tournament or anything... but it did go to game 7, that's got to count for something.

Also I wouldn't call Select's control perfect.. but man.. he baited tyler's units over and over to overextend into select's resupply lines... Not perfect by any means, but better than most Terran's I see play.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
TheWoodLeagueAllstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
October 16 2010 20:37 GMT
#3894
On October 17 2010 05:36 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 05:24 Frack wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:23 StarSense wrote:
hi, my name is select and i build marauders

Pretty much, its boring to watch and stupidly effective against everything :/ and it requires no teching at all


Oh please, as if gateway units require "teching".

Does everything really have to be colored by these childish anti-terran attitudes?

I play Terran
Bunker rushing is the way to a mans heart <3
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
October 16 2010 20:37 GMT
#3895
I loved these last games. It was really close, it wasnt just 1 big battle and that was it, it was decided by many battles. People say it's boring to watch, which it really isnt imo.

Pure roach is boring though
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
megagoten
Profile Joined October 2010
318 Posts
October 16 2010 20:37 GMT
#3896
is it me or does the loser's bracket seem to indictate that kiwikaki and select not playing each other?
kidcrash89
Profile Joined August 2010
198 Posts
October 16 2010 20:37 GMT
#3897
On October 17 2010 05:35 Cyanocyst wrote:
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On October 17 2010 05:26 Kolu wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:24 KingRajesh wrote:
All these scrubs are just gonna lose to the Idradomus.


Sen lost to Select in a BO3. I think he could possibly beat Idra.


Really? Hmm yeah that spells trouble for Idra. I think Sen is better than Idra. Tho this is based of Play of Sen i saw a couple months ago. Not sure if Idra has pasted Sen..probably not.


Sen's style is very different than Idra's so it's hard to compare the two. Sen is more harass oriented while Idra is more defensive and macro oriented
Sliver
Profile Joined April 2010
United States402 Posts
October 16 2010 20:37 GMT
#3898
Will the MLG stream run on my PS3?
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
October 16 2010 20:37 GMT
#3899
The phoenixes were fine anyways, he should have expanded to the back natural instead of the wide open front one so that he could hold a ramp and use phoenixes to pick off drops.
=O
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 20:38:48
October 16 2010 20:38 GMT
#3900
my problem with MMM is that u can wager everything that your opponent is going to do it, base your build entirely around that, and still not have any sort of advantage
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