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On September 14 2010 16:44 Frankon wrote:
hmmm. Forsti you should add that all casters should play as Random.
They need a knowledge of all races to cast games so that should be a must ;D
You can have knowledge about all three races without actually playing all three. That would be like saying a baseball announcer needs to play every position to be able to announce a game.
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On September 14 2010 22:37 Crota wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2010 16:44 Frankon wrote:
hmmm. Forsti you should add that all casters should play as Random.
They need a knowledge of all races to cast games so that should be a must ;D You can have knowledge about all three races without actually playing all three. That would be like saying a baseball announcer needs to play every position to be able to announce a game.
Very true. You also don't have to be diamond ranked to understand a lot of the tactics involved in playing the game. I consistently explain tactics to one of my friends and he is high plat while I am mid gold. He can just apply it a lot better.
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On September 15 2010 07:08 Drogith wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2010 22:37 Crota wrote:On September 14 2010 16:44 Frankon wrote:
hmmm. Forsti you should add that all casters should play as Random.
They need a knowledge of all races to cast games so that should be a must ;D You can have knowledge about all three races without actually playing all three. That would be like saying a baseball announcer needs to play every position to be able to announce a game. Very true. You also don't have to be diamond ranked to understand a lot of the tactics involved in playing the game. I consistently explain tactics to one of my friends and he is high plat while I am mid gold. He can just apply it a lot better.
i respectfully disagree. If you cant make it to diamond for any other reason then laziness you dont understand the game at all;(
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On September 15 2010 07:11 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 07:08 Drogith wrote:On September 14 2010 22:37 Crota wrote:On September 14 2010 16:44 Frankon wrote:
hmmm. Forsti you should add that all casters should play as Random.
They need a knowledge of all races to cast games so that should be a must ;D You can have knowledge about all three races without actually playing all three. That would be like saying a baseball announcer needs to play every position to be able to announce a game. Very true. You also don't have to be diamond ranked to understand a lot of the tactics involved in playing the game. I consistently explain tactics to one of my friends and he is high plat while I am mid gold. He can just apply it a lot better. i respectfully disagree. If you cant make it to diamond for any other reason then laziness you dont understand the game at all;(
not really. knowing what to do and actually doing it are two different things. how do you explain professional sport commentators who possess excellent knowledge but doesnt have playing experience at the top level? it certainly helps if you have but its not a requirement.
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When are we going to get our groups set? Date for first match is set at the 19th... not that far away and I still don't know who I'm playing -.- if this doesnt happen soon can we push back the dates a little bit? I'm pretty busy with events going to be gone most of the weekend of the 25th covering a LAN in michigan.
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The athletic ability to be a professional athlete is a lot different than playing starcraft at a very basic level. It is not hard to get into diamond league at all, and if you understand basic concepts you should be there already.
If you know what to do and aren't doing it you're just lazy.
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On September 15 2010 07:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The athletic ability to be a professional athlete is a lot different than playing starcraft at a very basic level. It is not hard to get into diamond league at all, and if you understand basic concepts you should be there already.
If you know what to do and aren't doing it you're just lazy.
That's a very simplified way of looking at things. There are hundreds of reason why someone isn't in diamond despite knowing what to do. Some actually have a life (yes shocking) and don't have that much time to practice, some are just terrible under pressure and while knowing beforehand what they should do in certain situation forgets or simply mishandles it from the stress, some just have a terrible memory or hand coordination and so on. You can't seriously argue that starcraft doesn't involve any kind of mechanical skills other than simple know-how? (Apm says hello).
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On September 15 2010 07:39 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 07:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The athletic ability to be a professional athlete is a lot different than playing starcraft at a very basic level. It is not hard to get into diamond league at all, and if you understand basic concepts you should be there already.
If you know what to do and aren't doing it you're just lazy. That's a very simplified way of looking at things. There are hundreds of reason why someone isn't in diamond despite knowing what to do. Some actually have a life (yes shocking) and don't have that much time to practice, some are just terrible under pressure and while knowing beforehand what they should do in certain situation forgets or simply mishandles it from the stress, some just have a terrible memory or hand coordination and so on. You can't seriously argue that starcraft doesn't involve any kind of mechanical skills other than simple know-how? (Apm says hello).
no there is only one reason to not be in diamond- you dont bother to read the strategy forum to learn some BOs.
No one is saying you have to be 1500 pts diamond but if ure stuck in platinum you do not understand the game. At ALL.
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On September 15 2010 08:42 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 07:39 nam nam wrote:On September 15 2010 07:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The athletic ability to be a professional athlete is a lot different than playing starcraft at a very basic level. It is not hard to get into diamond league at all, and if you understand basic concepts you should be there already.
If you know what to do and aren't doing it you're just lazy. That's a very simplified way of looking at things. There are hundreds of reason why someone isn't in diamond despite knowing what to do. Some actually have a life (yes shocking) and don't have that much time to practice, some are just terrible under pressure and while knowing beforehand what they should do in certain situation forgets or simply mishandles it from the stress, some just have a terrible memory or hand coordination and so on. You can't seriously argue that starcraft doesn't involve any kind of mechanical skills other than simple know-how? (Apm says hello). no there is only one reason to not be in diamond- you dont bother to read the strategy forum to learn some BOs. No one is saying you have to be 1500 pts diamond but if ure stuck in platinum you do not understand the game. At ALL.
I hope your posts are very dry sarcasm. My radar is broken atm. Good job at baiting in that case.
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On September 15 2010 08:42 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 07:39 nam nam wrote:On September 15 2010 07:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The athletic ability to be a professional athlete is a lot different than playing starcraft at a very basic level. It is not hard to get into diamond league at all, and if you understand basic concepts you should be there already.
If you know what to do and aren't doing it you're just lazy. That's a very simplified way of looking at things. There are hundreds of reason why someone isn't in diamond despite knowing what to do. Some actually have a life (yes shocking) and don't have that much time to practice, some are just terrible under pressure and while knowing beforehand what they should do in certain situation forgets or simply mishandles it from the stress, some just have a terrible memory or hand coordination and so on. You can't seriously argue that starcraft doesn't involve any kind of mechanical skills other than simple know-how? (Apm says hello). no there is only one reason to not be in diamond- you dont bother to read the strategy forum to learn some BOs. No one is saying you have to be 1500 pts diamond but if ure stuck in platinum you do not understand the game. At ALL.
I'm not sure how this discussion is getting into a thread about a fun tournament for casters - but this is an absolutely ridiculous comment.
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On September 15 2010 08:42 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 07:39 nam nam wrote:On September 15 2010 07:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The athletic ability to be a professional athlete is a lot different than playing starcraft at a very basic level. It is not hard to get into diamond league at all, and if you understand basic concepts you should be there already.
If you know what to do and aren't doing it you're just lazy. That's a very simplified way of looking at things. There are hundreds of reason why someone isn't in diamond despite knowing what to do. Some actually have a life (yes shocking) and don't have that much time to practice, some are just terrible under pressure and while knowing beforehand what they should do in certain situation forgets or simply mishandles it from the stress, some just have a terrible memory or hand coordination and so on. You can't seriously argue that starcraft doesn't involve any kind of mechanical skills other than simple know-how? (Apm says hello). no there is only one reason to not be in diamond- you dont bother to read the strategy forum to learn some BOs. No one is saying you have to be 1500 pts diamond but if ure stuck in platinum you do not understand the game. At ALL.
Did you say read the SC2 strat forums 0.o ? I gave that section every chance in the world but if there is a weakest link in TL that is it. Most good players gave up on it forever ago aside from a random gem here and there.
Just for reference most of the best casters out there rarely play. They are too busy doing something.... wait what was it? O that's right! Casting...
Either way I'm actually sort of excited for this. Should be a fun time!
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On September 15 2010 08:42 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 07:39 nam nam wrote:On September 15 2010 07:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The athletic ability to be a professional athlete is a lot different than playing starcraft at a very basic level. It is not hard to get into diamond league at all, and if you understand basic concepts you should be there already.
If you know what to do and aren't doing it you're just lazy. That's a very simplified way of looking at things. There are hundreds of reason why someone isn't in diamond despite knowing what to do. Some actually have a life (yes shocking) and don't have that much time to practice, some are just terrible under pressure and while knowing beforehand what they should do in certain situation forgets or simply mishandles it from the stress, some just have a terrible memory or hand coordination and so on. You can't seriously argue that starcraft doesn't involve any kind of mechanical skills other than simple know-how? (Apm says hello). no there is only one reason to not be in diamond- you dont bother to read the strategy forum to learn some BOs. No one is saying you have to be 1500 pts diamond but if ure stuck in platinum you do not understand the game. At ALL.
Oh, that's why I think Battle Cruisers are tier one units 
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@FuriousJodo You are probably right. I'll refrain from posting more about this here.
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On September 15 2010 08:42 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 07:39 nam nam wrote:On September 15 2010 07:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The athletic ability to be a professional athlete is a lot different than playing starcraft at a very basic level. It is not hard to get into diamond league at all, and if you understand basic concepts you should be there already.
If you know what to do and aren't doing it you're just lazy. That's a very simplified way of looking at things. There are hundreds of reason why someone isn't in diamond despite knowing what to do. Some actually have a life (yes shocking) and don't have that much time to practice, some are just terrible under pressure and while knowing beforehand what they should do in certain situation forgets or simply mishandles it from the stress, some just have a terrible memory or hand coordination and so on. You can't seriously argue that starcraft doesn't involve any kind of mechanical skills other than simple know-how? (Apm says hello). no there is only one reason to not be in diamond- you dont bother to read the strategy forum to learn some BOs. No one is saying you have to be 1500 pts diamond but if ure stuck in platinum you do not understand the game. At ALL.
yes i'm sure a 4-gate only protoss at the top of diamond has a far better understanding of the game then a top platinum.
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On September 15 2010 09:19 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 08:42 Sfydjklm wrote:On September 15 2010 07:39 nam nam wrote:On September 15 2010 07:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The athletic ability to be a professional athlete is a lot different than playing starcraft at a very basic level. It is not hard to get into diamond league at all, and if you understand basic concepts you should be there already.
If you know what to do and aren't doing it you're just lazy. That's a very simplified way of looking at things. There are hundreds of reason why someone isn't in diamond despite knowing what to do. Some actually have a life (yes shocking) and don't have that much time to practice, some are just terrible under pressure and while knowing beforehand what they should do in certain situation forgets or simply mishandles it from the stress, some just have a terrible memory or hand coordination and so on. You can't seriously argue that starcraft doesn't involve any kind of mechanical skills other than simple know-how? (Apm says hello). no there is only one reason to not be in diamond- you dont bother to read the strategy forum to learn some BOs. No one is saying you have to be 1500 pts diamond but if ure stuck in platinum you do not understand the game. At ALL. yes i'm sure a 4-gate only protoss at the top of diamond has a far better understanding of the game then a top platinum.
you do realize that you're reinforcing my point instead of actually arguing against it?
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On September 15 2010 07:11 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 07:08 Drogith wrote:On September 14 2010 22:37 Crota wrote:On September 14 2010 16:44 Frankon wrote:
hmmm. Forsti you should add that all casters should play as Random.
They need a knowledge of all races to cast games so that should be a must ;D You can have knowledge about all three races without actually playing all three. That would be like saying a baseball announcer needs to play every position to be able to announce a game. Very true. You also don't have to be diamond ranked to understand a lot of the tactics involved in playing the game. I consistently explain tactics to one of my friends and he is high plat while I am mid gold. He can just apply it a lot better. i respectfully disagree. If you cant make it to diamond for any other reason then laziness you dont understand the game at all;(
I'm actually going to defend the last statement here by Sfydjklm. He said any reason "other" than laziness. So having a job, a wife, and a kid, are obviously not being lazy. If I spent every hour I was home and not sleeping, I'd have more than 2 hours a night to game and increase my skill dramatically. My my 3yr old would starve and I'd end up being divorced. And as a caster, I'd have to stop doing the commentary unless I start doing POV only.
Now on something another person mentioned. Could we get the brackets up? If I'm one of the ??? people, I would like to know for this weekend. Because the weekend after next (25/26th) I will be in Maine live-streaming a tournament on location and won't have time.
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Can we cut the random arguing and get to the tournament? 4 days until the first deadline and theres no bracket yet... Like I requested previously if it does not come up today I want the deadlines to be moved back as I am usually casting at least one event a day -.-
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Could the elitist fucks please stop shitting up the thread with their dumb opinions? If you're not casting or don't have something relevant to say regarding the tournament then bugger off, thanks.
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On September 15 2010 10:24 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 09:19 Telcontar wrote:On September 15 2010 08:42 Sfydjklm wrote:On September 15 2010 07:39 nam nam wrote:On September 15 2010 07:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The athletic ability to be a professional athlete is a lot different than playing starcraft at a very basic level. It is not hard to get into diamond league at all, and if you understand basic concepts you should be there already.
If you know what to do and aren't doing it you're just lazy. That's a very simplified way of looking at things. There are hundreds of reason why someone isn't in diamond despite knowing what to do. Some actually have a life (yes shocking) and don't have that much time to practice, some are just terrible under pressure and while knowing beforehand what they should do in certain situation forgets or simply mishandles it from the stress, some just have a terrible memory or hand coordination and so on. You can't seriously argue that starcraft doesn't involve any kind of mechanical skills other than simple know-how? (Apm says hello). no there is only one reason to not be in diamond- you dont bother to read the strategy forum to learn some BOs. No one is saying you have to be 1500 pts diamond but if ure stuck in platinum you do not understand the game. At ALL. yes i'm sure a 4-gate only protoss at the top of diamond has a far better understanding of the game then a top platinum. you do realize that you're reinforcing my point instead of actually arguing against it?
actually, i realise sacarsm doesn't work on some people.
anyway i'll just say it straight up to avoid any confusion. your statement doesn't hold up by the fact that some people get to the top of diamond using just 1 BO. are you saying that player has better understanding of the game then lets say a top platinum with many BOs in his repertoire? yes he is still stuck in platinum because he makes silly mistakes and his macro isn't the best but that does not mean he is clueless.
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