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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
September 01 2010 13:23 GMT
#321
Major blunder on GOMTVs part.. You're gonna lose the majority of your english viewers.. and you want it to be global?

Atleast offer a free low-quality stream, I mean come on. You really expect people to pay for a low qual stream? Not even MLG or ESL does this. Why does GOM have to be so greedy?
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Abbeb
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia161 Posts
September 01 2010 13:26 GMT
#322
is gomtv's site down for anybody else all of a sudden?
Navitron
Profile Joined May 2008
United States25 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 13:27:27
September 01 2010 13:26 GMT
#323
On September 01 2010 20:47 Zakka wrote:
20 dollar is expensive, but worth it in my opninion. How will e-sports ever evolve if people won't pay to watch it? I am disappointed in the community.

Do you guys have any idea how much a pay per view cost for an UFC-event? And that's only a couple of hours.

I happily paid 10 dollar for the MLG stream (Which was really good) and will pay for this one if the quality is good!

If I can be assured that the quality will be good, then i'm sold.

Last time I ordered a UFC fight it was in 1080i
I also payed for the MLG stream, but Gom is asking for $50 for both live and vods and its gonna be in 500k HAHAHA are you kidding me? the MLG free stream was 600k.
dignan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4 Posts
September 01 2010 13:27 GMT
#324
what a great idea to help the sport grow...
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
September 01 2010 13:28 GMT
#325
On September 01 2010 22:19 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 21:21 Terrakin wrote:
I don't see why 20$ is such a big deal..


Because the OSL/MSL/Proleague is free, you can even turn up and watch the games for free... and this is amateur players even.

Edit: It's clear eSports should be NON-PROFIT. This is the only way its sustainable.


Nope eSports should be a profit organization. But there never was a organization that didnt start as a non-profi one.

As i and many people wrote before. They need to offer free streams at the beginning to hook people in and then gradually incorporate the paid options.


off topic..

How many people think its Blizzard decision? Cause its basically like a wow monthly fee ;P
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
September 01 2010 13:28 GMT
#326
seems like a horrible decision if you are wanting this thing to grow.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
September 01 2010 13:28 GMT
#327
Just FYI folks, you can't expect much from the stream quality--ESL's free stream is 350K bitrate and I believe their HQ is 1000K. GOM is saying 300K/500K and I doubt they can extract much better quality from 300K than ESL can from 350K
Chanted
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway1001 Posts
September 01 2010 13:28 GMT
#328
What people have said earlier, why be the only one to charge for everything?

Secondly, why on earth not make 20 or 30 dollars for entire package. Streaming is unreliable, and my speedtest to their server showed really poor results, so I dont feel confident at all, that the stream will be HQ and run smoothly. So, this leaves watching vods, and missing the wonders of watching the event live. This also means dodging teamliquid for a few days, waiting for them to upload vods and avoid getting spoiled.

Most people here seems to think that having free streams is some sort of "right" they have to provide,
which is something I have to disagree a bit on, but the prices they are charging are horrendeous, especially seeing how its split up the live and vod, and its only the first season.

Guess im going to have to wait and see what they are doing before I make up my mind. I wouldnt mind paying 20 bucks or so to watch a months worth of content, live AND vods, but if they keep the current regime going, I might as well wait for others to restream or upload vods.
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
September 01 2010 13:29 GMT
#329
On September 01 2010 22:26 Navitron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 20:47 Zakka wrote:
20 dollar is expensive, but worth it in my opninion. How will e-sports ever evolve if people won't pay to watch it? I am disappointed in the community.

Do you guys have any idea how much a pay per view cost for an UFC-event? And that's only a couple of hours.

I happily paid 10 dollar for the MLG stream (Which was really good) and will pay for this one if the quality is good!

If I can be assured that the quality will be good, then i'm sold.

Last time I ordered a UFC fight it was in 1080i
I also payed for the MLG stream, but Gom is asking for $50 for both live and vods and its gonna be in 500k HAHAHA are you kidding me? the MLG free stream was 600k.


MLG was 1.6 Mbit more then 3x as high as GSL.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
September 01 2010 13:29 GMT
#330
we killed GOM ^^
Jaw
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States274 Posts
September 01 2010 13:30 GMT
#331
are you guys really surprise? gom did the same shit to the BW Tourneys they ran. half the time the live steam would not even work.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
September 01 2010 13:30 GMT
#332
On September 01 2010 22:19 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 21:21 Terrakin wrote:
I don't see why 20$ is such a big deal..


Because the OSL/MSL/Proleague is free, you can even turn up and watch the games for free... and this is amateur players even.

Edit: It's clear eSports should be NON-PROFIT. This is the only way its sustainable.



Why?

I do understand that they ought to provide free streams to a certain extent, but what's wrong with e.g. charging tickets for actually going to the event or something?
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
September 01 2010 13:30 GMT
#333
Not a good move, GOM... I'll do what I can to watch, but, seriously.. Not a good move.
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Abbeb
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia161 Posts
September 01 2010 13:31 GMT
#334
Also i just noticed that it starts in 3 days. This is a ridiculously small amount of time for this announcement. While I wasn't happy I was going to pay the 20 dollars for the stream (if it works) but being a college student I literally cannot get any money together for at least 2-3 days after it starts. That's ridiculous.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25997 Posts
September 01 2010 13:31 GMT
#335
Talk about the excitement level going from 9.5 to 0.5. I was rescheduling my life to watch this event live but I sure won't pay to watch Starcraft 2.
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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
September 01 2010 13:33 GMT
#336
On September 01 2010 22:28 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 22:19 infinity2k9 wrote:
On September 01 2010 21:21 Terrakin wrote:
I don't see why 20$ is such a big deal..


Because the OSL/MSL/Proleague is free, you can even turn up and watch the games for free... and this is amateur players even.

Edit: It's clear eSports should be NON-PROFIT. This is the only way its sustainable.


Nope eSports should be a profit organization. But there never was a organization that didnt start as a non-profi one.

As i and many people wrote before. They need to offer free streams at the beginning to hook people in and then gradually incorporate the paid options.


off topic..

How many people think its Blizzard decision? Cause its basically like a wow monthly fee ;P


Wrong, BW and Kespa has been fine with being non-profit for the longest time. Back when Kespa first tried charging for seating for their live events no one came and there were protests. This is no different. Gretech is killing BW e-sports and making SC2 even more of a failure in Korea. Just look at their philosophy of pro-teams: they basically want to take Boxer's dream and shove it up his ass.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
September 01 2010 13:34 GMT
#337
It may be $60 for a PPV fight but you often go watch at a bar, or split the cost between you and a bunch of friends and watch it together
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
September 01 2010 13:34 GMT
#338
is the gsl forum dead ? it keeps timing out when i want to post there .
aru
Profile Joined April 2010
183 Posts
September 01 2010 13:34 GMT
#339
We're obviously all paying so that Yoon Do Hyun, DJ DOC, IU, and Rainbow can perform at the GSL. Prize money? Foreigner fans? Pssh, kpop is more important.
OriX
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom41 Posts
September 01 2010 13:34 GMT
#340
I'm new to the Starcraft franchise. I didn't play Broodwar or follow the progaming scene. However, since Starcraft 2 was in beta I began following the larger tournaments. I was really looking forward to this but sadly, and I think this may be the view of all newcomers to the scene, I just can't see the value for money.

My opinion is this is the wrong way to go about attracting a larger audience. I can't see new players been eager to throw their money at this. Starting with lower prices or offering discounts for first purchases would be a better avenue to explore.
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