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Sliver
United States402 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
On September 01 2010 18:00 GOMTV wrote: For GSL , all matches from Ro64 will be broadcasted on our Englsih homepage That is too good... | ||
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SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
On September 01 2010 21:44 thopol wrote: I have a brilliant idea. You play advertisements between games. You charge companies to air their advertisements. You show the companies the huge viewer numbers and make bank. Revenue minus shitstorm. Think about it. EDIT: Piracy for the win. Keep it real bitches, we're going to watch your shit for free anyways... The problem for them is that it's true. We will watch this for free if we want to. The internet always wins... I expected the first seasons to be for free, since it's smart way to get the viewers "addicted to their product". Plus it's a much nicer approach than slamming the cost in our faces a couple of days before the tournament starts. Now we're just dissapointed instead of hyped. A bad move from the GSL, hopefully they'll try something else out or at least make it cheaper! | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On September 01 2010 21:40 Zakka wrote: Yeah and an UFC Pay per view costs more than double of that, and that's only a couple of hours... These comparisons are pointless... UFC is already established.... On the other hand SC2 is a infant... There is a idiot at top of GomTV. If he wanted to have a steady income of $ not just once and never again (or he thinks sc2 will flop) he should do: 1) first tournament free stream medium quality and vods coauple of days later (to hook up people) 2) get the numbers from the first tornament and go on a wild world sponsor hunt. They will have the results of the first torunament streaming (how many views in each region, country) 3) then prepare region (country) targeted ADS (should be easy. Check the region from client IP adress and send them the right add) 4) than comes the second toruney. No they offer medium quality stream (with adds during breaks and so on) and vods couple of days later with ads at begining middle and end) <-- get numbers as after first torunament 5) repeat points 2-3 6) next tournament: offer free LQ quality stream with adds couple of days later, LQ vods with adds, Higer quality premium stream with less adds (sponsors would pay more to get a add on this stream) and vods avaliable right after 7) if it works you are set up like old KESPA. Money incoming ;D Sadly since Gom isnt using this method... theirs attitude is to get money fast not worry what will happen later.... sadly this kind of attitude does not bode no good to future of SC2 | ||
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AmiPolizeiFunk
Germany804 Posts
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Sealteam
Australia296 Posts
Limiting your fanbase to hardcore fans who are willing to pay for the stream is perhaps the worst possible mistake you could make for the future popularity of Sc2 on GOMtv and GSL. I hope you reconsider, I really would like to see GSL succeed. And yeah, it will be restreamed and we will watch it for free. Edit: Ok and because I really want to say it. Fuck you for dumping this on us now GOMTV. Fuck you. | ||
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Trizz
Netherlands1323 Posts
So much for wanting E-Sports to grow, you're only going to lose a lot more viewers. | ||
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KristianJS
2107 Posts
On September 01 2010 19:56 Aurdon wrote: Every other major sport doesn't charge for people to watch their events. Most major sports broadcasting is covered by Sponsors and Advertising. Only going to the event live usually has a charge. Exceptions to this are some things go to PPV like boxing and MMA. Point is, even going to the live event in Korea has traditionally cost absolutely nothing. Most major sports events gain a lot of revenue from selling tickets. e-sports get's no money that way so far. | ||
Skvid
Lithuania751 Posts
On September 01 2010 21:36 papaz wrote: another fun thing to add to this is that they want feedback on their website but i cant write more than like 100 chars per message. . Browse the site, who knows maybe you can find a premium forum membership there that allows to post whole 200 chars, for a measly 10$ a month price. /sarcasm | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
it is proven through research that a new brand has to be "established" somehow; newspapers for example are very often given out for free the first couple of weeks; then when there is an audience who is convinced that the quality is good, they charge; BUT also the advertisements get higher with GOMTV and starcraft 2 it's exactly the same; nobody really knows how good the quality will be, if the stream will lag, if the matches will start on time, if there will be any problems; in order to gain a considerable audience it is nearly inevitable to provide a low-quality free-stream for the first event; I for instance didn't pay for IEM-HD but will definitely the next time; because the event was great and from the next time on I will gladly contribute; if GOMTV had provided free streaming for the first season, then they would have had the possibility to attract bigger companies for advertising and furthermore could've calculated the price much more precisely; as it is right now there is not much that justifies this approach from an economic point of view.... | ||
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dvide
United Kingdom287 Posts
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On September 01 2010 21:50 Frankon wrote: UFC is already established.... On the other hand SC2 is a infant... There is a idiot at top of GomTV. If he wanted to have a steady income of $ not just once and never again (or he thinks sc2 will flop) he should do: 1) first tournament free stream medium quality and vods coauple of days later (to hook up people) 2) get the numbers from the first tornament and go on a wild world sponsor hunt. They will have the results of the first torunament streaming (how many views in each region, country) 3) then prepare region (country) targeted ADS (should be easy. Check the region from client IP adress and send them the right add) 4) than comes the second toruney. No they offer medium quality stream (with adds during breaks and so on) and vods couple of days later with ads at begining middle and end) <-- get numbers as after first torunament 5) repeat points 2-3 6) next tournament: offer free LQ quality stream with adds couple of days later, LQ vods with adds, Higer quality premium stream with less adds (sponsors would pay more to get a add on this stream) and vods avaliable right after 7) if it works you are set up like old KESPA. Money incoming ;D Sadly since Gom isnt using this method... theirs attitude is to get money fast not worry what will happen later.... sadly this kind of attitude does not bode no good to future of SC2 Now this is a constructive post regarding the topic and has proven to me what can be easily done to gain more income and viewers. Have you posted this on the GOMTV forums? | ||
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Vandro
Netherlands384 Posts
 Shooting yourself in the leg ^^ | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
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ddod
Bulgaria144 Posts
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ltortoise
633 Posts
They should be making profit the same way everybody else does in these situations... Free stream, with lots of advertisements for revenue. What's wrong with that? I think people grossly underestimate the profit you can get from ads, especially with 10,000+ people are watching live with hundreds of thousands watching the VODs. | ||
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ryanAnger
United States838 Posts
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
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PanzerDragoon
United States822 Posts
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Shatter
United States1401 Posts
Well, people will restream it anyways and make more from donations than it costs for the stream. I can only see the hardcore people purchasing this and I think a large chunk of that demographic would rather just watch the free OGN stream than pay $20-50. | ||
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