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Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
August 21 2010 17:18 GMT
#4841
On August 22 2010 02:11 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 02:10 Therickz wrote:
On August 22 2010 02:06 Sqq wrote:
On August 22 2010 02:02 Kurumi wrote:
1.Spam one unit 2.Abuse bug in case player gets thors 3.??? 4. Win.
I don't like it. I am a Zerg player,but winning with one unit? Seriously?

Stop feeling sorry for Tharson. He played shit and you know it.

See what happens when IdrA starts pressuring a Terran ? They fall completly on their ass because they have never experienced that before. They are used to controling the game, IdrA takes the game to them, and Tarson paniced.

Dude, have some respect...

also, maybe zerg was overpowered all the time, and terrans are the weak ones? herp derp


Why ? In sports people call others out all the time. Its just a natural part when something gets competative. Stop being such a fucking pansy ass. I'll put money on you being from Bergen.


When was the last time you made $900 playing SC2.

Lay off people competing on a much bigger stage then you.

You get out in front of a large live audience with the knowledge that your game is being streamed world-wide and see if you don't make any mistakes.
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
Knutzi
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway664 Posts
August 21 2010 17:18 GMT
#4842
if only someone could figure out how too make ground units not auto move in a huge blob then maybe protoss could join in on standing a chance against terran, anyway congratulations zerg players : )
Skvid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Lithuania751 Posts
August 21 2010 17:18 GMT
#4843
On August 22 2010 02:15 Seze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 02:13 velvetone wrote:
On August 22 2010 02:12 Seze wrote:
Is the muta vs. thor thing an exploit? It looked like those mutas killed 5 thors without any of them going into red.


a micro technique can hardly be called an exploit..



Ye well... The observer vs. turret in BW can also be considered micro then I guess. But this was considered an exploit.


Why compare it to the observer exploit?
I think that this sort of muta spread is the same kind of "feature" as having mutas + overlord in 1 control group back in bw.

If this thing sticks, i think blizz did a good job holding back on buffing z/nerfing t as this thing is going to smooth out the match up nicely.
Gnax
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden490 Posts
August 21 2010 17:18 GMT
#4844
inc blizz buffing thors to make the aoe wider.
Lazix
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia378 Posts
August 21 2010 17:19 GMT
#4845
These Terran tears are hysterical.

What? My 4 Thors can't take out 20+ mutas?

When will this be getting patched?
Darkside-
Profile Joined March 2010
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:20:43
August 21 2010 17:19 GMT
#4846
On August 22 2010 02:17 Zelniq wrote:
mutas easily outrun seeker missiles


Yeah, and it would be especially easy to see which one was targeted if you have them all spread out like that.

Also, I don't know how anyone could ever insinuate that this is a glitch. Every single air unit spreads like that when you tell them to stop and has from the start of beta.
I find your lack of faith disturbing
Sputty
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada161 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:21:20
August 21 2010 17:20 GMT
#4847
On August 22 2010 02:16 Kraz.Del wrote:
There is no way that ANY zerg would have won in IdrA's position after that inital helion harass if not for the "magic box" technique. Those hellions would have splashed anything besides roches and the maraders would have decimated those too. I am glad that a solution has been found. At the moment terran mech is not viable vs most good zergs, but I can see more players incorporating hunter seeker missiles, forward missile turrets, and stimmed marines to adapt.

seeker missile is a bad spell that is slow, easy to dodge, doesn't do enough damage for its energy and research cost and to top it all off has a smaller splash radius than a baneling. Before the change to seeker missile it was a very strong spell but now it's not really. PDD + auto turret would be a better way to deal with mutas.

On August 22 2010 02:18 Kraz.Del wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 02:17 Zelniq wrote:
mutas easily outrun seeker missiles


Yeah and marines can outrun banelings while tanks kill them..

Except mutas are actually fast enough just to escape, and seeker missile slowly tracks one unit on top that of that, allowing you to just move that one away


That being said I don't think there's an issue with thors at all so I don't know why people are talking about it
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
August 21 2010 17:20 GMT
#4848
On August 22 2010 02:18 Gnax wrote:
inc blizz buffing thors to make the aoe wider.


I think good players could just spread mutalisks out with micro beforehand manually. A different type of AoE, maybe like a 3 target aoe like mutalisks would be suitable.
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MagnusHyperion
Profile Joined August 2010
United States288 Posts
August 21 2010 17:20 GMT
#4849
such great games today!
I am really looking forward to see Idra play Morrow. Hopefully we can see the mastermind of current SC2 go to town ZvT style.

However, there is one issue that is particularly bothering me, the lag/connection issues of SC2! Officially speaking, Nada just stopped playing because of connection issues. We saw a game delayed for a huge amount of time yesterday because of unbearable lag. And countless times throughout this tournament, we have seen lag and connection problems!

What I want to know is what Blizzard is going to do about this!? I wouldn't even mind if they designed an extra, tournament SPECIFIC way of establishing LAN connections or at least prioritizing the tournament play on their servers. You can physically SEE the distress it causes the players i.e. Idra's eyebrows being raised in a "wtf" moment when this happens. I think that these connection issues could serve as a barrier to high level SC1 players wanting to play the game (for example, Nada).

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Ganondorf
Profile Joined April 2010
Italy600 Posts
August 21 2010 17:20 GMT
#4850
Morrow is not going to fall for this, he makes marines/vikings as we have seen. The zerg need to spread mutas vs thors but stack them vs vikings, if the terran has both they're screwed :D So it's not going to work. Going to be an interesting final match!
Cashout
Profile Joined May 2010
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:22:12
August 21 2010 17:21 GMT
#4851
On August 22 2010 02:19 Lazix wrote:
These Terran tears are hysterical.

What? My 4 Thors can't take out 20+ mutas?

When will this be getting patched?

more like: thank god maybe stupid zergs will stop spamming every thread with their OP terran bullshit
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 21 2010 17:21 GMT
#4852
gotta remember to give MAD probs to Morrow, he wasn't even suppose to be there, and now he is the fucking final, impressed

also lol at the Reaper/Mutas being hated on ^^,
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Cade)Flayer
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom279 Posts
August 21 2010 17:23 GMT
#4853
Two great matches today but I really loved the Idra vs Tarson match. I'm a Terran player myself but I was pulling for Idra in that match, he's the hero of SC2 at the moment :D

Final tomorrow will be amazing!
That boys a monster
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 21 2010 17:23 GMT
#4854
On August 22 2010 02:20 Ganondorf wrote:
Morrow is not going to fall for this, he makes marines/vikings as we have seen. The zerg need to spread mutas vs thors but stack them vs vikings, if the terran has both they're screwed :D So it's not going to work. Going to be an interesting final match!


Yeah Morrow doesn't like them thors very much. That said, Idra won't be going mass muta against Morrows strategies. Personally I think Idra will be able draw the games out long enough to make his macro magic take effect. Idra 3-1 or 3-2.
splcer
Profile Joined October 2009
United States166 Posts
August 21 2010 17:24 GMT
#4855
haha how is that at all a bug????? the game spreads the damn things out for them as for winning with one unit if they dont have enough aa what should i get hmmmmmmm omg maybe an air unit. nope thats shouldnt be allowed people should not go air and win against thors z op!1!
That which grows fast, whithers as rapidly. That which grows slowly, endures
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
August 21 2010 17:24 GMT
#4856
On August 22 2010 02:17 Klive5ive wrote:
This tournament totally kicks ass despite the problems with SC2.

It seems even though the game is broken in many ways, it's still really exciting.

totaly agree
TLT07 ===> *winner* <===TLT08
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
August 21 2010 17:25 GMT
#4857
On August 22 2010 02:20 MagnusHyperion wrote:
such great games today!
I am really looking forward to see Idra play Morrow. Hopefully we can see the mastermind of current SC2 go to town ZvT style.

However, there is one issue that is particularly bothering me, the lag/connection issues of SC2! Officially speaking, Nada just stopped playing because of connection issues. We saw a game delayed for a huge amount of time yesterday because of unbearable lag. And countless times throughout this tournament, we have seen lag and connection problems!

What I want to know is what Blizzard is going to do about this!? I wouldn't even mind if they designed an extra, tournament SPECIFIC way of establishing LAN connections or at least prioritizing the tournament play on their servers. You can physically SEE the distress it causes the players i.e. Idra's eyebrows being raised in a "wtf" moment when this happens. I think that these connection issues could serve as a barrier to high level SC1 players wanting to play the game (for example, Nada).



I;ve heard people talking about a tournament version that includes LAN.

The GSL also said something about offline qualifiers so this may me used rather soon. I'll try to find a source.
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
reking
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway73 Posts
August 21 2010 17:25 GMT
#4858
Are there VODs of the TLO vs Nada game? I didn't see it live...
Yur
toemn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany915 Posts
August 21 2010 17:25 GMT
#4859
On August 22 2010 02:12 hohan wrote:
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=14809 there you have a video from the TL party!


haha, great video.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
August 21 2010 17:26 GMT
#4860
On August 22 2010 02:12 Seze wrote:
Is the muta vs. thor thing an exploit? It looked like those mutas killed 5 thors without any of them going into red.


Because one thor only fire at one muta, what exploit is that lol
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
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