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Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
August 21 2010 17:14 GMT
#4821
On August 22 2010 02:10 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 02:07 dcemuser wrote:
On August 22 2010 02:06 Sqq wrote:
Stop feeling sorry for Tharson. He played shit and you know it.


Way. to. be. an. ass.
Seriously. Have some respect for the players.


Cry me a river pansy ass. I'm not gonna step toe around it. If they played bad they played bad, end of discussion. Its called opinions and if i have it I have it ? Do you want an emotionless game ? If you want fuck off.

User was temp banned for this post.

that doesn't nullify is point, you sound like a douche bag. rofl, but hey whatever makes you happy bro =)
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 21 2010 17:15 GMT
#4822
On August 22 2010 02:14 ZidaneTribal wrote:
are the games over? whens next set of sc2 gonna be


Check OP.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3395 Posts
August 21 2010 17:15 GMT
#4823
I don't understand the 'zomg how will morrow deal?' comments. Vikings/pdd/marines/thors are all still in the game. ^^

PS: Watch JD v Light g4 from msl semis last night if you wanna see some MANLY mutalisk use.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Omar91
Profile Joined April 2010
Angola620 Posts
August 21 2010 17:15 GMT
#4824
They finals are tommorow ?
Seze
Profile Joined August 2010
42 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:15:53
August 21 2010 17:15 GMT
#4825
On August 22 2010 02:13 velvetone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 02:12 Seze wrote:
Is the muta vs. thor thing an exploit? It looked like those mutas killed 5 thors without any of them going into red.


a micro technique can hardly be called an exploit..



Ye well... The observer vs. turret in BW can also be considered micro then I guess. But this was considered an exploit.
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
August 21 2010 17:15 GMT
#4826
I really wish i could be at that esl party
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
Donner
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany91 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:16:30
August 21 2010 17:15 GMT
#4827
On August 22 2010 02:12 Satisfaktion wrote:
Anyone know what this song is during the recap vid? I like it. :D


sorry i didnt read "recap"
nevermind
scottyyy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom796 Posts
August 21 2010 17:15 GMT
#4828
On August 22 2010 02:12 Seze wrote:
Is the muta vs. thor thing an exploit? It looked like those mutas killed 5 thors without any of them going into red.


20+ units, versus 5 units with a horribly slow firing anti air attack that does very little damage. omg hax, units shouldn't spread like that!
so.nerdy
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada31 Posts
August 21 2010 17:16 GMT
#4829
this mass mutalisk will only go so far, heatseaker missiles are about to get real
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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
August 21 2010 17:16 GMT
#4830
finally ppl cant make 2 thors and force z's to make another unit lol
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
SimpleHarmonicMotion
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden187 Posts
August 21 2010 17:16 GMT
#4831
To anyone thinking that 50 hellions and 5 thors should stand a chance against 25 mutas, get a grip.
common sense is the collection of prejudices
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:17:05
August 21 2010 17:16 GMT
#4832
There is no way that ANY zerg would have won in IdrA's position after that inital helion harass if not for the "magic box" technique. Those hellions would have splashed anything besides roches and the maraders would have decimated those too. I am glad that a solution has been found. At the moment terran mech is not viable vs most good zergs, but I can see more players incorporating hunter seeker missiles, forward missile turrets, and stimmed marines to adapt.
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 21 2010 17:17 GMT
#4833
mutas easily outrun seeker missiles
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
August 21 2010 17:17 GMT
#4834
This tournament totally kicks ass despite the problems with SC2.

It seems even though the game is broken in many ways, it's still really exciting.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
August 21 2010 17:17 GMT
#4835
hmm, i think i remembered where this came from, i think it was a Lalush game on Metalopolis where he killed Thors with mutas this way, it s like 3 weeks old or so, i gonna look if i still got that
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
August 21 2010 17:17 GMT
#4836
Really enjoyed all of todays games. QL was awesome, too. Can't wait for the finals tomorrow. IEM is such a great event.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 21 2010 17:17 GMT
#4837
I see a lot of people saying hsm are going to be used more.My question is WHY?They have a small splash area and cost 125 energy.That doesn't sound like a counter.....
kataa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom384 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:18:38
August 21 2010 17:17 GMT
#4838
On August 22 2010 02:11 Gigaudas wrote:
Why would it dominate? MorroW handles mutas well and in a manner that will not be effected by this technique.



Agreed, while mass muta is good against thors it does not fair very well against mass reactor-marine play that MorroW loves. I'm a pretty big fan of Idra's play, but I think he'll have trouble against a terran like MorroW who isn't afraid to expand. I doubt we'll see it in their games.

That said, it felt like somewhat of a historic game in SC2s fledling history. Now people will finally believe me when I tell them mass muta actually works even against high level terrans.
mufin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States616 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:39:47
August 21 2010 17:17 GMT
#4839
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=143825

I've known about the muta spread ever since reading that thread. long before psy or the dude that wrote about the "magic box" said anything. In fact they probably got their ideas from this thread or similar ones. Nothing official was posted about it so it never really took off until now.

Idra's beef isn't with mech play in TvZ, its with the mass amount of options terran has in the beginning and mid stages of the game. Any competent zerg will tell you that once he has his two bases and a spire up, his chances of staying alive increase significantly regardless if he knows about the "magic box" or not.

I only make 5 actions per minute. But since I use all my time deliberating and planning, my 5 actions are so brutally devastating that children cry out and grown men weep.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
August 21 2010 17:18 GMT
#4840
On August 22 2010 02:17 Zelniq wrote:
mutas easily outrun seeker missiles


Yeah and marines can outrun banelings while tanks kill them..
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