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Japan77 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:25 reking wrote: Are there VODs of the TLO vs Nada game? I didn't see it live... I missed it too, but we don't get a VOD thanks to Kespa. Gotta love those bastards. http://tv.esl.eu/de/program/view/39778 Update: There will be no VoD of the match, since Kespa didn't officially allow NaDa to play a showmatch. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On Steppes of war you see Morrow pull this off fantastically, stimming his marines and running around in circles while the tanks killed the banelings, and Morrow just cleaned house afterward. Then on Delta Quadrant the same thing happens, where Morrow runs his marines away from the banelings, only when he does this, Dimaga just moves in with all his lings and mutas and picks off the tanks while the marines are no longer covering them and ends up winning. It's fantastic that it can go both ways, and that it's the micro that really determines the outcome of those 2 unit compositions clashing. | ||
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:33 Kurumi wrote: I am scared that every ZvT will evolve into ling/bling/muta fest. Isn't that basically what DIMAGA does every game already? Then Ultra/Broodlord if the game doesn't end early. A few infestors thrown in to fungal bio and viking groups. I see nothing wrong with this. | ||
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
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Lazix
Australia378 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:33 Kurumi wrote: I am scared that every ZvT will evolve into ling/bling/muta fest. Or in other words: I'm scared of Zerg having a viable strategy. Where else will I get my free wins? | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
edit: it just ended. | ||
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
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Dalavita
Sweden1113 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:32 vyyye wrote: Whoever said it was impossible for zerg to evolve (strategy wise) to beat a terran?  The zerg players themselves, clearly, who seem to have given up even attempting things because their races gameplay isn't as 1-aclick ish as the rest (until they reach endgame, where zerg army becomes the most 1-a of them all) | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:32 vyyye wrote: I've seen about 4 posts saying "LOL terran whining tehre were so many mutas thors shouldnt win" and 0 posts saying Mutas need a nerf. What the hell people? Because they don't need a nerf? Try putting equal gas cost mutas vs thors, e.g. 4 thors vs 8 mutas and the thors will come out ahead with at least 2 still standing even when the mutas are spread. Now add on a few SCVs for repair and marines to support and it won't even be close. Last I heard thor/hellion/marine is an excellent combination vs mutaling that's commonly used by Korean terrans. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:37 TaKemE wrote: Cant belive ppl complain that 34 Mutas killed 5 Thors... There's just about no one complaining about it. On August 22 2010 02:39 teamsolid wrote: Because they don't need a nerf? Try putting equal gas cost mutas vs thors, e.g. 4 thors vs 8 mutas and the thors will come out ahead with at least 2 still standing even when the mutas are spread. Now add on a few SCVs for repair and marines to support and it won't even be close. Last I heard thor/hellion/marine is an excellent combination vs mutaling that's commonly used by Korean terrans. You misinterpret me. I was just pointing out how silly it was that there were so many posters laughing at terrans who said thors were underpowered/were whining, when there was only discussion on different tactics terrans could use. I mean, there wasn't any whine in the first place. | ||
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Jimmeh
United Kingdom908 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:37 TaKemE wrote: Cant belive ppl complain that 34 Mutas killed 5 Thors... No one's complaining. However people are complaining that people are complaining about complaining when no one is, in fact, complaining. | ||
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:26 teamsolid wrote: Rofl, Terrans crying about when at least 2-3x the gas cost of thors get beat by mutas... The reason Tarson lost on Xel Naga was that he spent WAY too much money on hellions and too much gas on tanks. What he needed was a mix of marine/thor/hellion. Which might require the Terran to actually scout the Zerg army composition for once and adapt? Oh noes. It was clear Tarson hadn't encountered this before, after that game he lost his pedals and it was clear he was toast. And how people simplify things, it's amazing. Marine/thor/hellion can get countered by mass roaches, zerg can do a simple switch. There is a REASON they make all those marauders you know, to preempt that. And making lots of marines always has the downside of being susceptible to banelings as we have seen a lot in this tournament already. This really complicates matters, all zerg needs to completely shut down terran mech is mass one unit? Quite curious to see what Morrow has in store tomorrow. | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:37 Kraz.Del wrote: I still think HSM was designed to be a counter to flocks of air units. If pro terrans can't find I was to deliver those HSMs to the front, then I imagine that Blizzard will buff HSM. Point defense drone is much better than HSM in this case. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:37 Lazix wrote: Or in other words: I'm scared of Zerg having a viable strategy. Where else will I get my free wins? I am Zerg myself,and this strat is not only viable one. We have Roach/Hydra into Ultra,still. We had normal Muta/Ling plays too. Now it evolved into pure muta / muta/bling/infestor | ||
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kme
Serbia176 Posts
Edit: Doh, I just found out about kespa not allowing those VODs. Now I'm sad  . | ||
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Seam
United States1093 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:39 vyyye wrote: There's just about no one complaining about it. There were 5-6 people calling this an exploit a few pages back, and 2-3 saying it should be patched. Also a few saying Thors needed buffed now since they no longer hard counter mutas. I am Zerg myself Your icon says Terran, might wanna change that. | ||
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Tiax;mous
669 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:41 kme wrote: Ok, so are the VODs for TLO vs Nada up yet? I couldn't find it. Edit: Doh, I just found out about kespa not allowing those VODs. Now I'm sad .*cough* http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=146083¤tpage=17 *cough* | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:42 Seam wrote: There were 5-6 people calling this an exploit a few pages back, and 2-3 saying it should be patched. Also a few saying Thors needed buffed now since they no longer hard counter mutas. Banelings role is to counter Light units. What would happen,if placing units little different would make banelings not? Or maybe siege tanks,what would happen if static d placed different be immune/not hard countered by siege? | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:39 Jimmeh wrote: No one's complaining. However people are complaining that people are complaining about complaining when no one is, in fact, complaining. + Show Spoiler + Also, for those looking for the video of Nada vs TLO: (as posted in another thread) http://livestre.am/kHKN Skip to 40 minutes I believe. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On August 22 2010 02:44 Tiax;mous wrote: *cough* http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=146083¤tpage=17 *cough* It says where to go for the Nada vs TLO games (which I want to watch too) but I'm more interested in seeing the Idra games if they are in there. EDIT: Fuck my life. I skipped to a random part in the video to see + Show Spoiler + A nuke killing like 40 SCV's | ||
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