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shlomo
Profile Joined May 2010
258 Posts
August 19 2010 18:15 GMT
#2121
On August 20 2010 03:08 DrainX wrote:
Did you even see the first game DeMuslim vs Idra or are you just trolling?


Metalopolis?
Yeah, I saw it.
As usual, low opportunity cost Terran cheese, which is in the hands of anyone worth their salt is going to do enough damage to justify itself - and it did (it's almost a no brainer it's so efficient). So no, I'm not impressed. Reapers are loleasymode for Terran early game vZ.
Fork
Profile Joined August 2010
Russian Federation100 Posts
August 19 2010 18:15 GMT
#2122
Yeah but as an announcer you should say something like

"Congratulations to Lucifer for winning this round, however it is unfortune that even with this win he will not be able to advance"


"get down!"
Cranberries
Profile Joined July 2010
Wales567 Posts
August 19 2010 18:15 GMT
#2123
On August 20 2010 03:14 JPSke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 02:49 Cranberries wrote:
People jump on the "OH MY GOD TLO IS SO CREATIVE" bandwagon but in reality he's only allowed to be as creative as he wants because he plays Terran and Terran, unlike P/Z, have so many composite forces that work well together and synergise. If I wanted to play Protoss going Immortal, Void Ray and Carrier people would laugh at me: but going Marine, Banshee, Viking is "creativity".


Lets just ignore where the units come in the tech tree and make a stupid comparison, sure why not?


That's pretty much the point.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
August 19 2010 18:15 GMT
#2124
really a pity no toss in ro8. but we shouldnt overemphasize this result, imho the quality of the P playerpool in this tournament was way worse than that of T or Z.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 19 2010 18:16 GMT
#2125
On August 20 2010 03:15 Fork wrote:
Yeah but as an announcer you should say something like

"Congratulations to Lucifer for winning this round, however it is unfortune that even with this win he will not be able to advance"




I prefer what he said.
Fork
Profile Joined August 2010
Russian Federation100 Posts
August 19 2010 18:17 GMT
#2126
ofcourse, most want dramma and raaageee

"get down!"
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 19 2010 18:18 GMT
#2127
On August 20 2010 03:15 Black Gun wrote:
really a pity no toss in ro8. but we shouldnt overemphasize this result, imho the quality of the P playerpool in this tournament was way worse than that of T or Z.


Exactly. Huk and Whiterah was the ones that you could expect have a good chance and Whiterah was quite doubtful considering how he has played lately. I'm not surprised at all that there are no protoss in the quarters.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 19 2010 18:19 GMT
#2128
On August 20 2010 03:17 Fork wrote:
ofcourse, most want dramma and raaageee



His was more direct and to the point. It has nothing to do with drama and rage for me.
JPSke
Profile Joined August 2010
United States54 Posts
August 19 2010 18:19 GMT
#2129
On August 20 2010 03:15 Cranberries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 03:14 JPSke wrote:
On August 20 2010 02:49 Cranberries wrote:
People jump on the "OH MY GOD TLO IS SO CREATIVE" bandwagon but in reality he's only allowed to be as creative as he wants because he plays Terran and Terran, unlike P/Z, have so many composite forces that work well together and synergise. If I wanted to play Protoss going Immortal, Void Ray and Carrier people would laugh at me: but going Marine, Banshee, Viking is "creativity".


Lets just ignore where the units come in the tech tree and make a stupid comparison, sure why not?


That's pretty much the point.


His point was to compare how difficult it is to be creative with Protoss to Terran by comparing two completely disparate unit compositions to each other? Thor/Battlecruiser/Ghost, gee this is fun!
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
August 19 2010 18:19 GMT
#2130
On August 20 2010 03:14 JPSke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 02:49 Cranberries wrote:
People jump on the "OH MY GOD TLO IS SO CREATIVE" bandwagon but in reality he's only allowed to be as creative as he wants because he plays Terran and Terran, unlike P/Z, have so many composite forces that work well together and synergise. If I wanted to play Protoss going Immortal, Void Ray and Carrier people would laugh at me: but going Marine, Banshee, Viking is "creativity".


Lets just ignore where the units come in the tech tree and make a stupid comparison, sure why not?


yeah... the Protoss tech tree is harder to use for "creative" stuff than terran's. Terran has like the most straight-forward easiest tech-tree ever. It's just 1 tree of rax-fact-starport, with 4 branches 1 building long (engineering bay, armory, ghost academy, fusion core) there's no real commitment to a tech tree as a terran.

Zerg's tech tree is also like that but they only have like 3 different units...
Fork
Profile Joined August 2010
Russian Federation100 Posts
August 19 2010 18:19 GMT
#2131
On August 20 2010 03:19 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 03:17 Fork wrote:
ofcourse, most want dramma and raaageee



His was more direct and to the point. It has nothing to do with drama and rage for me.


as a spectator sure, but as a participant standing there, those are really harsh words.
"get down!"
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 18:24:28
August 19 2010 18:23 GMT
#2132
On August 20 2010 03:19 Fork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 03:19 nam nam wrote:
On August 20 2010 03:17 Fork wrote:
ofcourse, most want dramma and raaageee



His was more direct and to the point. It has nothing to do with drama and rage for me.


as a spectator sure, but as a participant standing there, those are really harsh words.


I wouldn't care considering his poor English. I just find it weird that people get hung up on that quote as I find it one of the more harmless of his. He didn't mean loser in a derogatory way.
Cranberries
Profile Joined July 2010
Wales567 Posts
August 19 2010 18:23 GMT
#2133
On August 20 2010 03:19 JPSke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 03:15 Cranberries wrote:
On August 20 2010 03:14 JPSke wrote:
On August 20 2010 02:49 Cranberries wrote:
People jump on the "OH MY GOD TLO IS SO CREATIVE" bandwagon but in reality he's only allowed to be as creative as he wants because he plays Terran and Terran, unlike P/Z, have so many composite forces that work well together and synergise. If I wanted to play Protoss going Immortal, Void Ray and Carrier people would laugh at me: but going Marine, Banshee, Viking is "creativity".


Lets just ignore where the units come in the tech tree and make a stupid comparison, sure why not?


That's pretty much the point.


His point was to compare how difficult it is to be creative with Protoss to Terran by comparing two completely disparate unit compositions to each other? Thor/Battlecruiser/Ghost, gee this is fun!


No. You don't understand.

It's more that different Terran units complimen one another much more than Protoss units do, especially of different tech paths. You can't effectively play off of a Stargate with a Robotics Facility. However as Terran you can get any cluster of Starport, Factory and Barracks units and it can work. This is the problem with "being creative": Terran units compliment one another more than Toss units do.
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
August 19 2010 18:24 GMT
#2134
so what system did they use to determine the brackets? because Idra (D1) plays vs sarens (C1) and demuslim (D2) vs dimaga (C2) which seems weird to me
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
vilg
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark413 Posts
August 19 2010 18:28 GMT
#2135
sarens came second in group C.
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 18:34:12
August 19 2010 18:31 GMT
#2136
according to this http://www.readmore.de/index.php?cont=show_groupstage&id=76&coverage=436 he came 1st
but that'd make sense (match between the players > score then?)

edit: here http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/gamescom/sc2_groupstage/ it says sarens is 1st as well
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 18:36:40
August 19 2010 18:31 GMT
#2137
On August 20 2010 03:28 vilg wrote:
sarens came second in group C.


Not according to the esl website. Although it would make more sense. *dunno*
Boonesbane
Profile Joined May 2010
United States170 Posts
August 19 2010 18:32 GMT
#2138
On August 20 2010 02:51 Jameser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 02:48 Fork wrote:
i'm loving the troll announcer

[image loading]

just so you guys know; that face is actually EFG (Epic Fail Guy) and is not a troll he just epicly fails everything he attempts
+ Show Spoiler +
http://i39.tinypic.com/21mybl0.jpg

It would seem you failed epicly at knowing who efg is
" good sir, you appear to be somewhat lacking in intelligence. please refrain from posting until this is remedied, since it renders your opinions slightly less than correct and has a tendency to irritate more informed forum-goers. " - Grack "idrA" Fields
Trok67
Profile Joined May 2010
France384 Posts
August 19 2010 18:34 GMT
#2139
are tehre VOD / replays of the game ?
Boonesbane
Profile Joined May 2010
United States170 Posts
August 19 2010 18:34 GMT
#2140
On August 20 2010 03:23 Cranberries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 03:19 JPSke wrote:
On August 20 2010 03:15 Cranberries wrote:
On August 20 2010 03:14 JPSke wrote:
On August 20 2010 02:49 Cranberries wrote:
People jump on the "OH MY GOD TLO IS SO CREATIVE" bandwagon but in reality he's only allowed to be as creative as he wants because he plays Terran and Terran, unlike P/Z, have so many composite forces that work well together and synergise. If I wanted to play Protoss going Immortal, Void Ray and Carrier people would laugh at me: but going Marine, Banshee, Viking is "creativity".


Lets just ignore where the units come in the tech tree and make a stupid comparison, sure why not?


That's pretty much the point.


His point was to compare how difficult it is to be creative with Protoss to Terran by comparing two completely disparate unit compositions to each other? Thor/Battlecruiser/Ghost, gee this is fun!


No. You don't understand.

It's more that different Terran units complimen one another much more than Protoss units do, especially of different tech paths. You can't effectively play off of a Stargate with a Robotics Facility. However as Terran you can get any cluster of Starport, Factory and Barracks units and it can work. This is the problem with "being creative": Terran units compliment one another more than Toss units do.

Except TLO plays Zerg too, and his Zerg play is considered incredibly creative, so I don't think you have at point here.
" good sir, you appear to be somewhat lacking in intelligence. please refrain from posting until this is remedied, since it renders your opinions slightly less than correct and has a tendency to irritate more informed forum-goers. " - Grack "idrA" Fields
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