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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
On August 20 2010 02:59 nam nam wrote: It's a bit harder to be bm right to someones face rather than sitting in your home a 1000 miles from the player you are tearing down.  The irony is palpable. | ||
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Fork
Russian Federation100 Posts
"well we have 1 winner but really 2 losers" :o !! | ||
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Cranberries
Wales567 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:01 Fork wrote: Well, the announcer had no trouble being a douche towards all the players, winners and losers alike! "well we have 1 winner but really 2 losers" :o !! What's this? I want to hear this - it sounds awesome. | ||
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telamascope
United States310 Posts
On August 20 2010 02:49 Cranberries wrote: People jump on the "OH MY GOD TLO IS SO CREATIVE" bandwagon but in reality he's only allowed to be as creative as he wants because he plays Terran and Terran, unlike P/Z, have so many composite forces that work well together and synergise. If I wanted to play Protoss going Immortal, Void Ray and Carrier people would laugh at me: but going Marine, Banshee, Viking is "creativity". Creativity has nothing to do with effectiveness. Creativity is willing to try new and non-standard strategies. In that sense, his unit composition is pretty creative, regardless of whether it worked or not. The fact that it did work can be for many reasons including balance issues. But there's little doubt that TLO is creative. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:01 Fork wrote: Well, the announcer had no trouble being a douche towards all the players, winners and losers alike! "well we have 1 winner but really 2 losers" :o !! he actually said that? what the hell lol | ||
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:00 shlomo wrote: Maybe if the Terran players weren't all cheesefesting with reaper/bunker and actually banking on superior skills to win, they would actually win? But since they all can get away with 50 flavors of cheese for an extra-low opportunity cost and playing at 50 apm lower than the zerg they all do it. Guess who's the better player in the end? The one who sticks with Zerg. Most Terran don't even deserve half their wins against Z. Yeah because playing early reapers while taking care of your economy and expanding takes so little APM. One mistake and all your reapers are dead. Sure they might be a bit too strong in the beginning vs Zerg at the moment but it's not like it doesn't take micro to use them properly. Zergs were just as cheesy back in the beta before terrans figured out how to beat baneling busts. | ||
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captive411
United States80 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:00 shlomo wrote: Maybe if the Terran players weren't all cheesefesting with reaper/bunker and actually banking on superior skills to win, they would actually win? But since they all can get away with 50 flavors of cheese for an extra-low opportunity cost and playing at 50 apm lower than the zerg they all do it. Guess who's the better player in the end? The one who sticks with Zerg. Most Terran don't even deserve half their wins against Z. I agree. The really good zerg players out there have to be far superior to the terrans to compete. Its really really easy to compete as terran right now. Easy to take early aggression while still prepping for midgame. meanwhile zerg has to fight there ass off just to keep their drones alive. | ||
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shlomo
258 Posts
On August 20 2010 02:49 Cranberries wrote: People jump on the "OH MY GOD TLO IS SO CREATIVE" bandwagon but in reality he's only allowed to be as creative as he wants because he plays Terran and Terran, unlike P/Z, have so many composite forces that work well together and synergise. If I wanted to play Protoss going Immortal, Void Ray and Carrier people would laugh at me: but going Marine, Banshee, Viking is "creativity". Hahaha that's sooo true. Yeah, just imagine the other races trying to be "creative". lol Just watch Dimaga trying to all-in nydus to get an idea. | ||
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BadBinky
Finland649 Posts
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Wayem
France455 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:04 BadBinky wrote: He probably ment to say 2 winners since DM advanced despite losing 2-1 No, he said that for Hasuobs-Lucifron. | ||
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Cranberries
Wales567 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:03 shlomo wrote: Hahaha that's sooo true. Yeah, just imagine the other races trying to be "creative". lol Just watch Dimaga trying to all-in nydus to get an idea. Indeed. Dimaga is easily "more creative" or "as creative" as TLO - but his race holds it back. Just like Whitera is probably just as creative, but Protoss has such fragility with composites that you generally only have 1 or 2 options causing Protoss to be shut down so easily. | ||
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BadBinky
Finland649 Posts
Oh then he's correct as neither advanced. | ||
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shlomo
258 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:02 DrainX wrote: Yeah because playing early reapers while taking care of your economy and expanding takes so little APM. One mistake and all your reapers are dead. Sure they might be a bit too strong in the beginning vs Zerg at the moment but it's not like it doesn't take micro to use them properly. Rofl, I have two kids around 10 years of age and they are good enough to micro reapers and do damage with them. Retreating up/down a cliff is rly hard, I know. And expanding? rofl.. most every Terran 1-base for the longest time ever. They don't really even have to worry about expanding for a very long time thanks to lolmules (another hard macro item to keep up with as T) keeping them competitive. | ||
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:07 shlomo wrote: Rofl, I have two kids around 10 years of age and they are good enough to micro reapers and do damage with them. Retreating up/down a cliff is rly hard, I know. And expanding? rofl.. most every Terran 1-base for the longest time ever. They don't really even have to worry about expanding for a very long time thanks to lolmules (another hard macro item to keep up with as T) keeping them competitive. Did you even see the first game DeMuslim vs Idra or are you just trolling? | ||
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Raydog
United States632 Posts
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Cranberries
Wales567 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:08 DrainX wrote: Did you even see the first game DeMuslim vs Idra or are you just trolling? 6 Reapers: all of them surrounded by 20-30 Zerglings. lol nps just kill them all before I lose any Reapers. | ||
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Fork
Russian Federation100 Posts
On August 20 2010 03:04 BadBinky wrote: He probably ment to say 2 winners since DM advanced despite losing 2-1 Yes, for those of us watching the stream in Rob's channel it was epic hilarity. You had to see this announcer at work to understand the situation. (slightly upset that i was warned for the troll picture, that was the entire point of discussion) anyway he is a native German and he would interview the players after their games, however his bad English (a cover?) combined with a cocky attitude made for some pretty BM situations. as Bad Binky said, in the Hasuobs-Lucifron game, even tho Lucifron won, he still gets eliminated. so the announcer said in front of the crowd, with both players right beside him "Well we have 1 winner but really we have 2 losers" there were many more examples of such blatant disregard for etiquette but i cant quote with accuracy, so you're just going to have to wait until it hits youtube or something. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
Yeah, it was the last round when both of the players was eliminated from the competitions. So he was pretty spot on actually. One won the game, but both was losers. | ||
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JPSke
United States54 Posts
On August 20 2010 02:49 Cranberries wrote: People jump on the "OH MY GOD TLO IS SO CREATIVE" bandwagon but in reality he's only allowed to be as creative as he wants because he plays Terran and Terran, unlike P/Z, have so many composite forces that work well together and synergise. If I wanted to play Protoss going Immortal, Void Ray and Carrier people would laugh at me: but going Marine, Banshee, Viking is "creativity". Lets just ignore where the units come in the tech tree and make a stupid comparison, sure why not? | ||
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kar1181
United Kingdom515 Posts
Pretty much sums up the whole day of the guy's interviews | ||
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