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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
July 23 2010 04:04 GMT
#2121
Void Rays are OP since they're expensive and don't cloak and only do decent damage when charged.
My strategy is to fork people.
Brokengamer
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines116 Posts
July 23 2010 04:05 GMT
#2122
Although it was a VERY LAME GAME. Tester is so good he won with a tactic that TLO crushed 5-0 in his games against whitera.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 04:05:25
July 23 2010 04:05 GMT
#2123
On July 23 2010 13:02 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 13:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Void Rays have to be the most uninspired and annoying unit in the game. It's just not enjoyable watching them in any situation whatsoever. They're just too damn versatile and are practically indestructible once they charge up, even if you get their counter out.

non-terran users probably disagree lol

I'm a Protoss player and I agree.
blabberrrrr
Robstickle
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 04:05:53
July 23 2010 04:05 GMT
#2124
On July 23 2010 13:04 virgozero wrote:
what? that tester doesnt play the game HOW YOU WANT IT TO BE PLAYED?

Why don't you join up with Idra, i think you guys will get along very well.



Chill out he's just saying that g1 and g3 were dissapointing. Which they kind of were.
Gallimatias
Profile Joined May 2009
France95 Posts
July 23 2010 04:05 GMT
#2125
On July 23 2010 13:00 Adsee wrote:
Wow, Tester's two wins against TLO were pretty cheesy.


If anything TLO made cheesy builds and tester the appropriate counters. Cheese has distinct and simple counters, thats part of what makes it cheese. TLO's cheese is no exception and his unorthodox (bad) play brings out the worst in his opponents.
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
July 23 2010 04:05 GMT
#2126
It is not cheese, it is a response to The Little One's build. The Little One got greedy and went with a non standard build that didn't incorporate many marines. He took a gamble and he lost the gamble. If you don't like void rays, maybe you should tell the little one to stop gambling with the marine count.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
July 23 2010 04:05 GMT
#2127
I play Terran in SC2 and have died to voidrays so much in exactly the same positions on that map that I totally understand the hollow feeling afterwards... but gg to Tester anyways. I feel like TLO really earned us foreigners some respect with his performance in game 2.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 23 2010 04:05 GMT
#2128
On July 23 2010 13:05 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 13:02 OneOther wrote:
On July 23 2010 13:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Void Rays have to be the most uninspired and annoying unit in the game. It's just not enjoyable watching them in any situation whatsoever. They're just too damn versatile and are practically indestructible once they charge up, even if you get their counter out.

non-terran users probably disagree lol

I'm a Protoss player and I agree. The Void Ray is a stupid unit and should be removed from the game.

can't tell if you are serious or not but if void rays are removed, marauders should be removed as well
Attris
Profile Joined September 2009
United States175 Posts
July 23 2010 04:05 GMT
#2129
On July 23 2010 13:05 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 13:02 OneOther wrote:
On July 23 2010 13:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Void Rays have to be the most uninspired and annoying unit in the game. It's just not enjoyable watching them in any situation whatsoever. They're just too damn versatile and are practically indestructible once they charge up, even if you get their counter out.

non-terran users probably disagree lol

I'm a Protoss player and I agree.

Doubt you're a P player then.
Are you serious? |sRs| www.srejects.com
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
July 23 2010 04:05 GMT
#2130
TLO obviously had the advantage in big macro games, so tester took advantage of his early game weakness. Well played by both, even if void rays are boring. Still, tester won't be able to take advantage of ITR in the same way.... I look forward to that match.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
1237 Posts
July 23 2010 04:06 GMT
#2131

Void rays are fine - a few marines and an earlier bunker and TLO would have been fine - he risked going the same build twice in a row and Tester exploited it.

Idra vs TLO for 2nd place is going to be epic tomorrow. Also great play by QXC to 2-0 Dimaga.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 23 2010 04:06 GMT
#2132
On July 23 2010 13:05 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 13:02 OneOther wrote:
On July 23 2010 13:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Void Rays have to be the most uninspired and annoying unit in the game. It's just not enjoyable watching them in any situation whatsoever. They're just too damn versatile and are practically indestructible once they charge up, even if you get their counter out.

non-terran users probably disagree lol

I'm a Protoss player and I agree.


I'd agree to that if terran loses the banshee
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
July 23 2010 04:06 GMT
#2133
On July 23 2010 13:02 floor exercise wrote:
The best part of the Void ray is how it essentially becomes incredibly powerful not through micro but largely through inaction

I actually never thought about it like that. Good point.

In regards to game three...boo.

I said it before these games too. A lot of the games with tester and ITR look really one sided. I think that's only because they are utilizing timings and builds that for the most part, nobody is really expecting/very well trained for. I really don't think their micro and multitasking are sooooo superior to players like white-ra, idra, and TLO. Once players get strong at holding off weird all-ins and early timing pushes, I feel like the games will go a bit longer and we'll see less korean dominance (relatively less).
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
July 23 2010 04:06 GMT
#2134
On July 23 2010 13:05 Brokengamer wrote:
Although it was a VERY LAME GAME. Tester is so good he won with a tactic that TLO crushed 5-0 in his games against whitera.


The difference between a few seconds, really. Tester had the void ray in TLO's base before his viking came out and was able to charge. That makes all the difference in the world. Just a few seconds.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
July 23 2010 04:06 GMT
#2135
On July 23 2010 13:04 virgozero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 13:02 Adsee wrote:
On July 23 2010 13:01 jax1492 wrote:
On July 23 2010 13:00 Adsee wrote:
Wow, Tester's two wins against TLO were pretty cheesy.


win is a win ...


I know, I know, just kinda disappointed.

what? that tester doesnt play the game HOW YOU WANT IT TO BE PLAYED?

Why don't you join up with Idra, i think you guys will get along very well.



We're all here for entertainment. Why would we want to see a fast game with an obvious conclusion?
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
redwingxviii
Profile Joined June 2010
United States101 Posts
July 23 2010 04:07 GMT
#2136
koppik - i meant game 3, the people 'complaining' about the tester cheese

but i do agree with you about game 2 - toss needs to take the game to the air against terran
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 23 2010 04:07 GMT
#2137
Void Rays are not OP. Bad timing by TLO/Great timing by Tester and he was unprepared (no bunker what?) and he mis-micro'd the Vikings (which can take out any number of Void Rays without getting hit).
lalala
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 04:08:54
July 23 2010 04:08 GMT
#2138
IdrA vs TLO , IdrA vs TLO, IdrA vs TLO - hype hype hype! Can't wait

Day9 did A DAMN AWESOME job casting today, as some of these situations could have been almost impossible to cast by the average commentators without special preparation and multiple recordings.

And for another day in a row, we got some results that were pretty unexpected by most viewers, based on the polls.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 23 2010 04:08 GMT
#2139
On July 23 2010 13:05 Attris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 13:05 blabber wrote:
On July 23 2010 13:02 OneOther wrote:
On July 23 2010 13:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Void Rays have to be the most uninspired and annoying unit in the game. It's just not enjoyable watching them in any situation whatsoever. They're just too damn versatile and are practically indestructible once they charge up, even if you get their counter out.

non-terran users probably disagree lol

I'm a Protoss player and I agree.

Doubt you're a P player then.

this, too. my guess is that he hasn't played any capable terran players and felt the frustrations of dying to early marauders
lyhb
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada208 Posts
July 23 2010 04:08 GMT
#2140
tlo got a lucky snipe on the nexus...


i was more impress on testers play than tlo in that game
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