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whetherby
Profile Joined May 2010
United States53 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 03:38:25
May 20 2010 03:14 GMT
#4981
I think people just need a more laid out structure, as opposed to winging the dates. People respond to that well, even if those dates were exactly the ones that are in place now. It's just a psychological thing - to be in the know, of what to expect. So perhaps make dates in advance, maybe even have them more widely spread out.

Dates of the VODS especially.

I would also like to see some way of reducing spoilers. I'm sure there are complicated ways of hiding the number of parts to a video, or to the number of games, but probably not worth it.
whetherby
Profile Joined May 2010
United States53 Posts
May 20 2010 03:21 GMT
#4982
Another suggestion I would like to throw in there:

Even though it is the standard, I am a little tired of the round robin tournament style. Maybe there should be groups, and each player playing each other and then top 2 of every group move ahead into the semi finals (or leading into more groups etc). Or maybe some more creative styles.

I would also like to see race picking as opposed to completely random. For example TLO could chose his race or chose to be random. I doubt any pro would mind that because they are probably confident in their own game style and should be ready to play anyone with any race. So picking race will make things interesting for both the players and the viewers.
Forceon
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile7 Posts
May 20 2010 03:23 GMT
#4983
On May 20 2010 11:29 HDstarcraft wrote:

Hey Gatsbi,
How could we improve the way we ran this tournament through this thread in order to better suit your expectations? We're always looking to improve, so all constructive criticism is always read and welcome.


IMO you guys should organize the schedule of the whole tournament in advance, and post it to the public. At least when the live streams are going to be held. I think that shows a lot of commitment from your part as well as professionalism.

The tournament is awesome by the way HD, thx for the hard work.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
May 20 2010 03:31 GMT
#4984
On May 20 2010 11:29 HDstarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 10:53 Gatsbi wrote:


How dare I hold them to their word huh. If I had a choice I wouldn't watch their FREE services, in fact I would probably PAY for better service, but the fact of the matter is I have NO other option to watch this tournament. Don't think that because a service is free that it should be half-assed.. they would still benefit from running the tournament more smoothly even though it is free (recognition, future tournament sponsorships etc...)


Hey Gatsbi,
How could we improve the way we ran this tournament through this thread in order to better suit your expectations? We're always looking to improve, so all constructive criticism is always read and welcome.



For the record, I only take constructive feedback from people who are not sarcastic passive aggressive self-centered trolls.

Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
pash1k
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine119 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 03:59:56
May 20 2010 03:44 GMT
#4985
I'm surprised that there is no date for the livestream of the finals, considering that WhiteRa and IdrA already played their games, most likely.
Insert meme here
AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
May 20 2010 03:45 GMT
#4986
On May 20 2010 12:31 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 11:29 HDstarcraft wrote:
On May 20 2010 10:53 Gatsbi wrote:


How dare I hold them to their word huh. If I had a choice I wouldn't watch their FREE services, in fact I would probably PAY for better service, but the fact of the matter is I have NO other option to watch this tournament. Don't think that because a service is free that it should be half-assed.. they would still benefit from running the tournament more smoothly even though it is free (recognition, future tournament sponsorships etc...)


Hey Gatsbi,
How could we improve the way we ran this tournament through this thread in order to better suit your expectations? We're always looking to improve, so all constructive criticism is always read and welcome.



For the record, I only take constructive feedback from people who are not sarcastic passive aggressive self-centered trolls.



My suggestion would be to make a round of 32 or 64 so that we get to see more pros
Axel 145 Masters Protoss
Getz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States559 Posts
May 20 2010 03:49 GMT
#4987
On May 20 2010 12:31 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 11:29 HDstarcraft wrote:
On May 20 2010 10:53 Gatsbi wrote:


How dare I hold them to their word huh. If I had a choice I wouldn't watch their FREE services, in fact I would probably PAY for better service, but the fact of the matter is I have NO other option to watch this tournament. Don't think that because a service is free that it should be half-assed.. they would still benefit from running the tournament more smoothly even though it is free (recognition, future tournament sponsorships etc...)


Hey Gatsbi,
How could we improve the way we ran this tournament through this thread in order to better suit your expectations? We're always looking to improve, so all constructive criticism is always read and welcome.



For the record, I only take constructive feedback from people who are not sarcastic passive aggressive self-centered trolls.



Would really like to see future tournaments take less time to be completed.
Taking this many weeks to finish one tournament is a bit much.

Other than that, I really enjoy the games and the commentary.
Keep up the good work.
스타크래프트
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
May 20 2010 04:01 GMT
#4988
Keeping the 1st post in this thread constantly updated would be cool.

I would also like the tournament to not drag on so long but perhaps that's not possible.
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 04:18:11
May 20 2010 04:17 GMT
#4989
On May 20 2010 12:31 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 11:29 HDstarcraft wrote:
On May 20 2010 10:53 Gatsbi wrote:


How dare I hold them to their word huh. If I had a choice I wouldn't watch their FREE services, in fact I would probably PAY for better service, but the fact of the matter is I have NO other option to watch this tournament. Don't think that because a service is free that it should be half-assed.. they would still benefit from running the tournament more smoothly even though it is free (recognition, future tournament sponsorships etc...)


Hey Gatsbi,
How could we improve the way we ran this tournament through this thread in order to better suit your expectations? We're always looking to improve, so all constructive criticism is always read and welcome.



For the record, I only take constructive feedback from people who are not sarcastic passive aggressive self-centered trolls.

Hi! I would like to strongly suggest that you guys have health bars naturally toggled off for the observer as you guys stream. My reason for this largely stems from game 3 of TLO vs. White-ra, in which many of the mid/late game battles involved a lot of cluttered zealot on zealot/stalker battles that looked like an unrecognizable clutter of health bars to a stream observer.

I think the health bar information is incredibly valuable, especially early game, but an in-game observer is under significantly less mechanical pressure compared to a player and would hopefully be able to hold down alt at various times?

I guess holding down alt to remove health bars during big battles would work too, but either way I think it's an important thing to consider for whoever is recording the game.
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3511 Posts
May 20 2010 04:21 GMT
#4990
On May 20 2010 04:54 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 02:29 Kivo wrote:
We all saw how bad WhiteRa is vs. Zergs. Well, i hope he can improve till the day of days :-)

WhiteRa 2-0ed Check today friend !

+ Show Spoiler +
He was also able to take some games from Sen in convincing fashion.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
cerebralz
Profile Joined August 2009
United States443 Posts
May 20 2010 04:25 GMT
#4991
Would really like to see future tournaments take less time to be completed.
Taking this many weeks to finish one tournament is a bit much.


I kind of agree, although with people's real lives, it might be hard to set aside 2 days straight of casting/playing. I've no idea whether irip is paying HD and Husky anything or just supplying the prize pool.
It would be cool in the future to have an Olympics-like coverage of the first day/prelims where HD and Husky cast maybe one match, then go over all the highlights from the other matches so you can get them over with in one day. Then on day 2 for semi/final/3rd place, have live casting of all the games. Hopefully something can be worked out with the other prominent casters out there so that even the prelims could be casted on multiple streams, with HDH as the host being the "lead" stream. Thinking about it makes me want a SC2 cable channel.... lol

Also, when this gets more involved, I would love to see a style of tournament where teams are involved for a team championship as well as an individual, like the NCAA wrestling tournament. You get points for your team for winning, more points for winning in the winners bracket, and points for placing 1-8. Then you can go into making a gold division as well, although points in gold would be less than the platinum bracket. Things like that make tournaments a little more interesting as you have the team aspect as well.

Then you can have all the intrigue that comes with bracketology, and seeding by committee, which is half the fun of March Madness. I understand that for a first tournament, invitation only and mandated pairings for the round of 16 were necessary, but i hope in the future it gets more involved than that. Great job guys, looking forward to the finals.
Megaman703
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada688 Posts
May 20 2010 05:17 GMT
#4992
Wow, apparently somebody found out the score of the final.

GJ Blizzard. Way to ruin things.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
May 20 2010 06:16 GMT
#4993
UPDATE:

The final stream of the HDH will be starting at 20:00 GMT (+00:00) on Sunday, May 23rd.

We will be streaming both the 3rd place match as well as the finals!
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
May 20 2010 06:24 GMT
#4994
On May 20 2010 15:16 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
UPDATE:

The final stream of the HDH will be starting at 20:00 GMT (+00:00) on Sunday, May 23rd.

We will be streaming both the 3rd place match as well as the finals!

Warning: Incoming Epic.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Getz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States559 Posts
May 20 2010 06:30 GMT
#4995
On May 20 2010 14:17 Megaman703 wrote:
Wow, apparently somebody found out the score of the final.

GJ Blizzard. Way to ruin things.


Hard to do that when the games are going to be streamed LIVE.
스타크래프트
Megaman703
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada688 Posts
May 20 2010 06:56 GMT
#4996
Except they aren't live. There was a huge poll about the fact that they aren't doing it live.
NukemDukem
Profile Joined April 2010
United States133 Posts
May 20 2010 07:12 GMT
#4997
hmmm most of us are from the U.S. Canada and Europe why are times presented in Korean Standard Time in TL?
Always strive for last place. its in the Bible. The last show be first
Megaman703
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada688 Posts
May 20 2010 07:16 GMT
#4998
TL has always operated on KST. Making another timezone the offical TL timezone would show favour towards one region, which isn't what a global site like TL wants. Plus, Korea is the central hub of all professional SC activity, so it's a logical choice.
NukemDukem
Profile Joined April 2010
United States133 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 07:18:47
May 20 2010 07:17 GMT
#4999
Always strive for last place. its in the Bible. The last show be first
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
May 20 2010 08:26 GMT
#5000
Conversion is 1pm PST, 4pm EST, 10pm CET, Sunday May 23rd
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
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