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DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
March 28 2010 15:00 GMT
#81
i'm out - desert oasis this late in the tournament (top 16) and being a bo1 is simply ridiculous - bad choice to have a map like this so late, and yet so pivotal.

Plus - probaly the main reason i hate having obs, just 1 guy lagging makes the game go like shit - despite losing the game already, doesn't help when i can't even move.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 15:02:29
March 28 2010 15:00 GMT
#82
They shouldn't allow so many observers in high-level games, someone always lags. Just the gamers, streamers and maybe a ref.
ApolloSC2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United Kingdom804 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 15:01:07
March 28 2010 15:00 GMT
#83
ul
www.twitter.com/apollosc2
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
March 28 2010 15:02 GMT
#84
On March 28 2010 23:59 meRz wrote:
Of course zerg isn't complaining about imbalance, they've been the #1 race so far in terms of imbalance.

On March 28 2010 23:13 Sfydjklm wrote:
i wish terrans had the balls of protoss instead of whining non stop.


unlike terrans, i dont have any illusions about my race.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
March 28 2010 15:03 GMT
#85
On March 29 2010 00:00 DeMusliM wrote:
i'm out - desert oasis this late in the tournament (top 16) and being a bo1 is simply ridiculous - bad choice to have a map like this so late, and yet so pivotal.

Plus - probaly the main reason i hate having obs, just 1 guy lagging makes the game go like shit - despite losing the game already, doesn't help when i can't even move.



Doesn't matter..you will amke better next week
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
March 28 2010 15:05 GMT
#86
On March 29 2010 00:00 DeMusliM wrote:
i'm out - desert oasis this late in the tournament (top 16) and being a bo1 is simply ridiculous - bad choice to have a map like this so late, and yet so pivotal.

Plus - probaly the main reason i hate having obs, just 1 guy lagging makes the game go like shit - despite losing the game already, doesn't help when i can't even move.


agree, what a crappy map, but gotta admit you won't get bo3 in such a huge tournament
also thousands of streamers, it's bound to lag
oh well next time
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
March 28 2010 15:07 GMT
#87
and thats why i love demuslim, if the man says something about he perceives as imba he always does it in a toned down way that promotes an actual discussion instead of a stream of senseless tears down the cheeks.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
March 28 2010 15:07 GMT
#88
On March 29 2010 00:05 PredY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2010 00:00 DeMusliM wrote:
i'm out - desert oasis this late in the tournament (top 16) and being a bo1 is simply ridiculous - bad choice to have a map like this so late, and yet so pivotal.

Plus - probaly the main reason i hate having obs, just 1 guy lagging makes the game go like shit - despite losing the game already, doesn't help when i can't even move.


agree, what a crappy map, but gotta admit you won't get bo3 in such a huge tournament
also thousands of streamers, it's bound to lag
oh well next time

I dont think the streams are the problem, it's some observers with crappy computers.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
March 28 2010 15:08 GMT
#89
On March 29 2010 00:07 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2010 00:05 PredY wrote:
On March 29 2010 00:00 DeMusliM wrote:
i'm out - desert oasis this late in the tournament (top 16) and being a bo1 is simply ridiculous - bad choice to have a map like this so late, and yet so pivotal.

Plus - probaly the main reason i hate having obs, just 1 guy lagging makes the game go like shit - despite losing the game already, doesn't help when i can't even move.


agree, what a crappy map, but gotta admit you won't get bo3 in such a huge tournament
also thousands of streamers, it's bound to lag
oh well next time

I dont think the streams are the problem, it's some observers with crappy computers.

its the novice ADHD observers that feel the constant need to alt tab imo.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
March 28 2010 15:11 GMT
#90
Sfy is right..with bo3 the tournament would finish in a week
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
March 28 2010 15:17 GMT
#91
Yeah the casters aren't the most well informed but at least one has a soothing voice xD
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
March 28 2010 15:20 GMT
#92
no, i don't suggest the whole tournament being bo3, what i mean is you should have the more imbalanced maps earlier on in the tournament (this means seeded players usually won't play vs other seeded players in the earlier rounds if seeding is done correctly) thus meaning when the seeded players do meet, and you want a good, fair game.
This would be better all round - it means the seeded players if they do go on a bad map - i'll use desert oasis as an example, even if it's not advantageous for their race, he can beat the opposition because he would be higher skilled.
If it's advantageous for the seeded player against a none seeded player - then that's how seeds work, you get an easier route to the higher end of the bracket.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
March 28 2010 15:22 GMT
#93
Yea I notice that too every tournament, make it deep get to play Desert Oasis pvz when there's only good players left and you're out. It would indeed be an improvement if they put Desert Oasis and Scrap Station in the earlier rounds of the tournament and then take it from there.

(not the reason I lost today, was pvp I sucked and I suck at pvp)
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PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
March 28 2010 15:24 GMT
#94
not sure how many players get seeded in zotac, but it would be an ok solution
better would be to just scrap some of the maps altogether
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
March 28 2010 15:27 GMT
#95
On March 29 2010 00:24 PredY wrote:
better would be to just scrap some of the maps altogether


/agree
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
Arkimond
Profile Joined March 2010
Romania4 Posts
March 28 2010 15:43 GMT
#96
how do i join the next tournament ?
No Fear, Arki Here
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
March 28 2010 15:44 GMT
#97
On March 29 2010 00:00 DeMusliM wrote:
i'm out - desert oasis this late in the tournament (top 16) and being a bo1 is simply ridiculous - bad choice to have a map like this so late, and yet so pivotal.

Plus - probaly the main reason i hate having obs, just 1 guy lagging makes the game go like shit - despite losing the game already, doesn't help when i can't even move.


Agreed. The game was kind of lame despite being two very skilled players. The map made the game less enjoyable to watch. I would have said best of three at 16 though. I was surprised it was only at 8.
Life is Good.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 15:51:06
March 28 2010 15:46 GMT
#98
tournaments should just block out desert oasis, ive never heard a single soul in this world say that map is good or enjoyable
not to mention its literally impossible to win pvz on it

im also little bummed out how zotac plays the ENTIRE TOURNAMENT until the end without any breaks. i wish they had some kind of break before u play top8 or something because when u reach so far u really become tired hungry or simply just feel like taking a break for a while, but u cant do that :/

zotac got potential to become even greater, its just up to the admins over there to listen to the advise they r given
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
March 28 2010 15:48 GMT
#99
On March 29 2010 00:46 MorroW wrote:
tournaments should just block out desert oasis, ive never heard a single soul in this world say that map is good or enjoyable
not to mention its literally impossible to win pvz on it


well, 1 of the two incredibly crappy commentators on GLFH thought it was a great map. ^^'
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
ZOTACvash
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3 Posts
March 28 2010 15:48 GMT
#100
On March 29 2010 00:00 DeMusliM wrote:
i'm out - desert oasis this late in the tournament (top 16) and being a bo1 is simply ridiculous - bad choice to have a map like this so late, and yet so pivotal.

Plus - probaly the main reason i hate having obs, just 1 guy lagging makes the game go like shit - despite losing the game already, doesn't help when i can't even move.


we'll considerate this for future cups, thx
visit www.ZOTAC-Cup.com
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