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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
March 28 2010 15:54 GMT
#101
i think if they wanted to implement a seeding system theyd already do that after 125 zotac wc3 cups.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
March 28 2010 15:54 GMT
#102
On March 29 2010 00:48 kickinhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2010 00:46 MorroW wrote:
tournaments should just block out desert oasis, ive never heard a single soul in this world say that map is good or enjoyable
not to mention its literally impossible to win pvz on it


well, 1 of the two incredibly crappy commentators on GLFH thought it was a great map. ^^'


I was so happy when Rise started streaming. Those guys are trying at the very least, but they don't understand the game. They were Command and Conquer guys I believe.
Life is Good.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
March 28 2010 15:54 GMT
#103
On March 29 2010 00:43 Arkimond wrote:
how do i join the next tournament ?

Will post a link for the 6th cup tomorrow, but you just sign up on the website and register on the cup page (link in OP to the latest cup).
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 16:03:44
March 28 2010 15:58 GMT
#104
On March 29 2010 00:54 Alou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2010 00:48 kickinhead wrote:
On March 29 2010 00:46 MorroW wrote:
tournaments should just block out desert oasis, ive never heard a single soul in this world say that map is good or enjoyable
not to mention its literally impossible to win pvz on it


well, 1 of the two incredibly crappy commentators on GLFH thought it was a great map. ^^'


I was so happy when Rise started streaming. Those guys are trying at the very least, but they don't understand the game. They were Command and Conquer guys I believe.


Yeah, I don't wanna bash on them so noone will stream Zotac next time, but they really don't have the slightest clue of SC2 or SCBW and IMO it's a commentators duty to know the game, everything else is kinda hypocritical and I'd personally never dare to cast a game I don't know very well. I think so many ppl bash them on the chat, because that's just the wrong way to present a game to others but unfortunately the way to go for so many casters. It's just a shame when there is 1 caster trying to comment 5 different games on a high level. At least 1 of the casters should know the game, the scene, the standard-builds, the maps etc.

Watching the German stream now anyways, which is a bit better. ^^'

But unfortunately, no MU that interested me very much has been streamed so far...
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
h0munkulus
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1481 Posts
March 28 2010 16:02 GMT
#105
but the last patch really helped protoss.

TLI#1 Round of 4 -> 2 toss and 1 random who rolled toss quite often in early rounds. white_ra wins after only dropping 1 match whole tournament.

zotac#5 Round of 8 -> 4 toss with 2 already in Ro4 and a 3rd not yet eliminated (dreiven).

obviously small sample size but impressive improvement over last weekends tournaments!
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
March 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#106
On March 29 2010 01:02 h0munkulus wrote:
but the last patch really helped protoss.

TLI#1 Round of 4 -> 2 toss and 1 random who rolled toss quite often in early rounds. white_ra wins after only dropping 1 match whole tournament.

zotac#5 Round of 8 -> 4 toss with 2 already in Ro4 and a 3rd not yet eliminated (dreiven).

obviously small sample size but impressive improvement over last weekends tournaments!


how did the patch help toss excactly? Maybe indirectly by kinda nerfing T, but Z is still on top of it all. I guess the Maps had a lot more to do with it than the patch.
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
March 28 2010 16:06 GMT
#107
Yep. Protoss are doing awesome. Very happy for that. We will probably see this change every few weeks though with new patches and new strategies.
Life is Good.
h0munkulus
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 16:10:00
March 28 2010 16:06 GMT
#108
yea it seems the toss improvement has more to do with terra nerfs than toss buffs. and Z is obviously still very strong.
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
March 28 2010 16:07 GMT
#109
wow who are the guys in second semifinal?
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
March 28 2010 16:07 GMT
#110
Ok who's the Will Arnet sound-alike on the stream? :o
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
March 28 2010 16:11 GMT
#111
On March 29 2010 01:06 h0munkulus wrote:
yea it seems the toss improvement has more to do with terra nerfs than toss buffs. and Z is obvouisly still very strong.


It's also because there are now more standard'ish builds for Protoss developed by White_Ra, Nazgul etc. all the players could witness in recent tournaments. At least for me, having some safe builds you can further develop is very useful, because playing creative is one thing, but playing solid is so important when u wanna go through so many rounds of BO1.
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
March 28 2010 16:15 GMT
#112
rogalos is the polish player slider
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
March 28 2010 16:28 GMT
#113
Nice PvP on Rise's stream. Great use of forcefields and blink.
Life is Good.
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
March 28 2010 16:33 GMT
#114
On March 29 2010 01:15 Maenander wrote:
rogalos is the polish player slider

wow ! super old school player,I loved his 1 base pvz play in bw
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
March 28 2010 16:37 GMT
#115
Lol that one guy's voice is just.. special?
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
March 28 2010 16:41 GMT
#116
On March 29 2010 01:05 kickinhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2010 01:02 h0munkulus wrote:
but the last patch really helped protoss.

TLI#1 Round of 4 -> 2 toss and 1 random who rolled toss quite often in early rounds. white_ra wins after only dropping 1 match whole tournament.

zotac#5 Round of 8 -> 4 toss with 2 already in Ro4 and a 3rd not yet eliminated (dreiven).

obviously small sample size but impressive improvement over last weekends tournaments!


how did the patch help toss excactly? Maybe indirectly by kinda nerfing T, but Z is still on top of it all. I guess the Maps had a lot more to do with it than the patch.

Toss got a critical buff in the stalker, 25% damage increase vs mutas, lings, hydras. Terran on the other hand got completely screwed over with the marine and reactor nerf. Building a reactor is actually worse than just building another barracks now almost.

Zerg really needs some work, zvz is the worst borefest. Nerf the queen macro already it is insane, even if you say do a succesful worker raid, zerg can just replace them in 30 seconds, and in general mass whatever they want too easily.
here i am
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
March 28 2010 16:46 GMT
#117
so semi's are PvP and ZvZ so Finals and Third Place Match will both be PvZ? Cool.
Life is Good.
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
March 28 2010 17:07 GMT
#118
HayprO taking down game 1 with ease ;o
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Leoj
Profile Joined January 2010
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 17:18 GMT
#119
Is anyone else really disappointed with the casters? Maybe I'm just spoiled by Day9 but they really don't seem to know what they're talking about.

"Oh, that's right, Zealots ARE melee!"
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
March 28 2010 17:18 GMT
#120
Rogalos with some nice force fields takes game 2 with a 1 base immortal/sentry/zealot push.
I always have trouble stopping this in ZvP. :\
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