EPT[G] The Great Book of Protoss Bullshit - Page 21
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Universum
Canada192 Posts
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On June 02 2014 17:40 -HuShang- wrote: If it's the blink all in one its cause its not written properly Never had a problem with it. It was taken directly from duckdeok vs. Innovation, I've used it extensive times, and I've never had trouble hitting with 12 stalkers at 8:30. In fact, it's pretty easy compared to a lot of other builds. On June 04 2014 09:39 Universum wrote: It seems the kill-a-protoss BO is slightly off though. I have problem getting my 4th gate built in time for everything to line-up. Perhaps, I'm just missing something. Nonetheless, it's a great guide to have a little fun on the ladder. Thanks to TL and the writers. I would love to see the equivalent for the other races too ! The last gate should lag a little bit behind the others. It's not super clear, but your initial warpin is only 3 DTs with a fourth lagging behind. Never fear, you're doing it right! | ||
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jeeeeohn
United States1343 Posts
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Universum
Canada192 Posts
On June 04 2014 12:12 SC2John wrote: Never had a problem with it. It was taken directly from duckdeok vs. Innovation, I've used it extensive times, and I've never had trouble hitting with 12 stalkers at 8:30. In fact, it's pretty easy compared to a lot of other builds. The last gate should lag a little bit behind the others. It's not super clear, but your initial warpin is only 3 DTs with a fourth lagging behind. Never fear, you're doing it right! Thanks ! That's what was happening and I couldn't figure out why. Thanks for clearing that up. | ||
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Sagioio
United States27 Posts
Is this build like the one last pressure point the martial arts master refuses to teach the student... Just in case he one day needs to use it on you? | ||
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SatedSC2
England3012 Posts
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Tuczniak
1561 Posts
On June 10 2014 18:26 SatedSC2 wrote: Standard bullshit Because Immortal/Sentry isn't bullshit. It's the most solid PvZ build ever devised.  | ||
Teoita
Italy12247 Posts
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baiesradu
Romania150 Posts
good thing not every protos read this thread | ||
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Ottoman042
United States35 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On June 10 2014 20:30 Teoita wrote: Also because we had already one thread from sc2john along with the PvZ guide (which is more or less still a thing for the ffe>allin section) to cover it. I'm pretty sure we actually have three additional Soultrain guides out there (as I discovered when I was editing the Protoss Help Me Thread OP). I think, at this point, Soultrain is just a formality than an actual strategy. I mean, what's a ZvP without some kind of immortal all-in? That is, if the DTs don't work. | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On June 02 2014 17:40 -HuShang- wrote: If it's the blink all in one its cause its not written properly Are you referring to the PvZ one? | ||
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Sagioio
United States27 Posts
 Playing regular Zerg just gets so boring | ||
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SirPinky
United States525 Posts
Also, let's not forget, the 1 oracle into proxy Tempest push on Terran front TvP. I've had this done to me a few times on GM ladder and I've seen ForGG lose to it on his stream before. | ||
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mooseman1710
United States153 Posts
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mau5mat
Northern Ireland461 Posts
On June 14 2014 06:36 mooseman1710 wrote: Would TRUE's mass queen opening hold the sangate?? You don't simply 'hold' a SANGATE. | ||
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Socup
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Teoita
Italy12247 Posts
Protoss pressure doesn't have a bo order hard counter per se, you just need to scout it, make enough shit to defend and not missread the moment when the protoss backs out of his pressure and transitioning (you risk either making too few units and dieing if he commits, or overmaking them and being behind in econ). | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On June 14 2014 22:35 Teoita wrote: Plase don't post wrong advice like it's fact. Zealot pressure doesnt use forcefields, and trading banelings vs zealots is cost efficient for the Protoss because banes are really fucking expensive early game. Protoss pressure doesn't have a bo order hard counter per se, you just need to scout it, make enough shit to defend and not missread the moment when the protoss backs out of his pressure and transitioning (you risk either making too few units and dieing if he commits, or overmaking them and being behind in econ). Seconded. The best way to defend this is just to have ~30 lings (even slow lings) out around 5:30-6:00 to prevent the pylon from going down. Of course, you can also go into a few roaches if you didn't open zergling speed. Banelings are a bad bad bad idea for defending zealots, as Protoss only needs to do minor splits to make banelings incredibly cost inefficient. | ||
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-HuShang-
Canada393 Posts
On June 14 2014 23:07 SC2John wrote: Seconded. The best way to defend this is just to have ~30 lings (even slow lings) out around 5:30-6:00 to prevent the pylon from going down. Of course, you can also go into a few roaches if you didn't open zergling speed. Banelings are a bad bad bad idea for defending zealots, as Protoss only needs to do minor splits to make banelings incredibly cost inefficient. If you have 30 lings that fast you're miles behind anyways, | ||
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